The Russian-Ukrainian War of 2022 (News and battle updates)


I tried to make these points earlier in this thread (less patiently than you) and was met with "clown world" responses and a three day ban for being "off topic". The cope must be sustained by emotionally invested fanboys that can't read a military map and a calendar. The hard, cold, unpleasant truth is that the operation failed in day 2 and since then it's nothing more than glorified tactical back and forth with zero strategic results for Russia. Tukhachevsky is rolling in his grave.

Good luck to you!
Ok Einstein. Now send some real professionals from NATO to show the Russians how real man fight. Oh wait, they are hunkered down in Azovstal at level -5 (waiting for the 8th helicopter extraction attempt) and some with wadding in their noses - died gloriously for their kike overlords (as usual) and for the great Khazaria.

This discussion goes a bit off topic and should be moved to lounge.


Liman update

"According to the residents of Liman, Russian troops came close to the Liman from the southeast side:
"Yesterday, on the way home from Liman to Slovyansk, at about 6 pm we met with their checkpoint on the highway, checked the documents and recommended leaving that area as quickly as possible. Apparently, they are encircling the city."
Because of the fighting in the direction of the highway to Slovyansk, during the night, the southern region of the Liman suffered. The settlements of Dibrova, Yampol and Ozerny were cut off behind the line of collision "

Ukrainians blew up a bridge in the Slavyansk direction.

"The grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Liman is cut off from supplies
With the destruction of the Slavyansk-Krasny Liman bridge in the occupied part of the DPR, the group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine attacked by the troops of Russia and the DPR is not only cut off from replenishment with manpower, ammunition and equipment, it also significantly reduces the possibility of an organized retreat."

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Putin to undergo cancer surgery, transfer power to ex-FSB chief: report - NY Post (updated May 2, 2022)


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Now that Ukraine is due to receive a staggering $33 billion, whatever it means or whatever it may actually consist of, it's been emboldened and is throwing out completely insane statements like this:

Ukraine’s top security official has said that, instead of a peace treaty, Kiev could only sign a document with Moscow that would finalize Russia’s defeat.

During an interview on Ukrainian TV on Monday, Alexey Danilov, the head of Ukraine’s National Security and Defense Council (NSDC), was asked about international security assurances for Kiev and possible peace with Russia.

Danilov replied: “With Russia we can only sign an act of its capitulation. The sooner they do it, the better it will be for their country.”



The situation on the fronts on the evening of May 3 - google translated from Russian news

"The main delight of today is the mass evening "calibration" of the Lviv, Dnepropetrovsk, Kirovograd, Vinnitsa, Odessa and Kyiv regions. During the evening, six railway stations in the central and western regions of Ukraine, and other strategically important objects were subjected to missile strikes. According to the head of Ukrzaliznytsia Alexander Kamyshin, the damage is severe, the movement of 14 trains has been delayed. There were no injuries among railway workers and passengers. A missile attack was also carried out on an infrastructure facility in the mountainous region of Transcarpathia.

For border areas:
At night in Belgorod, according to tradition, "pops" were heard. This time there were no official comments from senior officials, but the source of the sound was probably the same as the previous day. Also during the day, a video of the operation of the air defense system over the villages of Tavrovo and Nikolskoye appeared on the network. Residents of the Belgorod region report an incident in the sky near the city of Alekseevka. Suddenly, an unidentified aircraft appeared in the sky, firing off heat traps and flying from the border with Ukraine. After some time, two more aircraft appeared in the sky, which flew towards the first aircraft.

Directly on the fronts, the picture, unfortunately, is not changing as quickly as we would like:
It is restless in Kharkov. The enemy has drawn and continues to draw large forces here. The Armed Forces of Ukraine, after an unsuccessful attempt to attack Cossack Lopan, switched to the tactics of shelling this settlement using nomadic self-propelled guns and mortars. Our gunners do not remain in debt either. Also, the Armed Forces of Ukraine, northeast of the city, are making attempts to push through our flank, and in some places they succeed, which, of course, creates a threat to our rear and supplies. So far, the situation seems to be under control.

Izyum direction - Russian troops and units of the People's Militia of the DPR and LPR are strengthening the bridgehead for the offensive on Barvenkovo, and are conducting successful battles in the Liman area. And we remind you that in Yatskovka and Rubtsy, about a thousand servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine remain surrounded.

In Popasnaya, the united group of allies continues to crush the enemy with heavy fighting. The excellent work of the attack fighters of the PMC "Wagner" during the assault on the village was captured on video.

In Mariupol today was not up to the holidays. In the morning, intensive work began on the demilitarization of the remaining garrison of Ukrainian troops at the Azovstal plant. The units of the Azov Battalion and the Armed Forces of Ukraine took advantage of the silence to regroup the remaining fire weapons in order to strike at our allied forces. The result of these actions was the accompaniment of our artillery and aircraft guns. Our fighters continued to finish off the "center of evil."

In Pridnestrovie, a terrorist attack was prevented using a quadrocopter carrying twenty kilograms of explosives in order to strike at a television and radio center in the village of Mayak."
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The Ukrainian army is showing signs of fraying, both with equipment and personnel. A lot of the soldiers at the Donbas front are middle-aged conscripts, led by green young officers fresh off a speedy training. Some have speculated that Ukraine has pulled its remaining best troops for the front of Nikolayev and Odessa, pushing middle aged cannon fodder conscripts in front of the Donbass Russian bulldozer.

Article from France Press:

Exhausted Ukrainian soldiers return from eastern front​

Sun, 1 May 2022, 9:03 am·3-min read

For a month, the 81st brigade battled to push back the Russian advance on the Ukrainian Donbas front (AFP/Yasuyoshi CHIBA)

Exhausted Ukrainian soldiers return from eastern front​

Packed with exhausted Ukrainian soldiers with clenched jaws, the truck drives away at full speed. The troops from the 81st brigade have just received an order to withdraw from the eastern front where Russian forces advance.

The brigade walked 12 kilometres (7.5 miles) Saturday, camouflaged in the woods and under crossfire, until their point of retreat at Sviatoguirsk. For a month, the 81st battled to push back the Russian advance in Ukraine's eastern Donbas region where Moscow's troops move forward slowly, taking villages one by one.

"Everyone understands that we must guard the line here, we cannot let the enemy move closer, we try to hold it with all our force," says lieutenant Yevgen Samoylov, anxious that the unit could be hit by Russian fire at any point. "As you can hear, the enemy is very, very near," he says, pointing to the sky. The line of Russian tanks is on the other side of a hill, around seven kilometres (4.3 miles) away.

At 21 years old, Samoylov, an officer from the Odessa military academy, finds himself managing 130 conscripts, often twice his age. "It's my first war. I was supposed to graduate in four months, but they sent me here," says the baby-faced officer with a short black beard.

The unit swung into action on February 23, a day before Russia launched the invasion.
At the start of the war, they spent a month defending Izium, which fell on April 1, before joining the fighting around the village of Oleksandrivka.

"Some really difficult battles," says the quiet Samoylov.
In this brigade, like the others, they don't say how many people have been killed.
When the subject comes up, Samoylov's gaze becomes misty. The pain is raw.

On arrival at the base, the soldiers unload their weapons, remove their kit and immediately go into one of the dilapidated rooms without electricity where they undergo a medical examination after returning from the front. For the survivors, "there are small injuries on the forehead, those who were buried under the rubble during a bombing have fractures and (injuries) linked to shrapnel," says Vadym Kyrylov, the brigade's doctor.
"But we mainly see somatic problems, like hypertension or chronic illnesses that have worsened," the 25-year-old adds.

- 'Trench foot' -
The men also greatly suffer from "trench foot" syndrome caused by prolonged exposure to moisture, unsanitary conditions or the cold.
"For a month they are not able to dry their shoes... so there are many feet-related injuries, mainly fungi and infections," the doctor says.
After the medical visit, they all have the same reflex: to isolate and use their phone to call a female partner, a child or a parent.
Soldiers cannot use their phones on the front, and any application that requires geolocation is banned.
Four soldiers reassemble the rusty metal bed frames and sweep the floor coated with dust to make a semblance of a room.
"It's the moment for the guys to relax, to take care of their physical and psychological injuries, to regain their strength before returning to battle," Samoylov says.
"They'll sleep warm, eat normal food and try to more or less get back on their feet."

Comments/analysis of the article by Moon of Alabama, former German military officer:

The 81st Airmobile Brigade consists of 3 infantry battalions equipped with BTR-70 armored personnel carriers that can be loaded onto a plane. It also has a strong artillery group with 3 gun and missile battalions, and the usual hodgepodge of support units.

As the Ukrainian troops had to walk 12 kilometers a question arises. Where are their armored carriers? Even when infantry is deployed in dugouts and trenches its transport should always be nearby (~3 km) to be able to quickly pick it up when necessary.

The most likely answer is that those BTR-70, as well as the brigade's artillery, no longer exist. From today's 'clobber list' as published by the Defense Ministry of Russia (emphasis added):

In total, 146 aircraft and 112 helicopters, 683 unmanned aerial vehicles, 281 anti-aircraft missile systems, 2,756 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 316 multiple launch rocket systems, 1,234 field artillery and mortars, as well as 2,563 units of special military vehicles of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were destroyed during the operation.

Those numbers will be, like all such counts, somewhat exaggerated. But they do tell a story.

At 21 years old, Samoylov, an officer from the Odessa military academy, finds himself managing 130 conscripts, often twice his age.
"It's my first war. I was supposed to graduate in four months, but they sent me here," says the baby-faced officer with a short black beard.

What a disaster. 130 conscripts up to age 40+. These ain't well trained warriors but teachers and car mechanics or farmers drafted into the war. With 130 troops the unit has about the size of a company. Infantry companies in the Soviet/Russian/Ukrainian army are relatively big:

The junior lieutenant Samoylov, who did not even finish his officer course, is leading
a unit that is usually led by an officer two to three ranks higher than his. Where are the higher officers?

Samoylov's 130 men
are unlikely to be from one original company. They are probably all what is left from a battalion that originally had three companies and more than 400 men.

Each battalion of the 81st brigade should have a doctor with a more senior one serving in the brigade's headquarter company. That a 25 year old one is in the brigade's doctor role again points to a lack of men.

Military boots should be watertight.
During my time in the military we trained in some very muddy areas but I never got my feet wet. One wonders what quality Ukrainian army boots have.

The Ukrainian army is obviously in a very bad shape as it pushes barely trained conscripts to the frontline where Russian artillery will eat them up. That it is in such a state is not astonishing though.

The Swiss military intelligence officer Jacques Baud has worked in the Ukraine and has written about the current war (here, here and here). He describes the sorry state the Ukrainian military was in from the get-go:

The Ukrainian army was then in a deplorable state. In October 2018, after four years of war, the chief Ukrainian military prosecutor, Anatoly Matios, stated that Ukraine had lost 2,700 men in the Donbass: 891 from illnesses, 318 from road accidents, 177 from other accidents, 175 from poisonings (alcohol, drugs), 172 from careless handling of weapons, 101 from breaches of security regulations, 228 from murders and 615 from suicides.
In fact, the army was undermined by the corruption of its cadres and no longer enjoyed the support of the population. According to a British Home Office report, in the March/April 2014 recall of reservists, 70 percent did not show up for the first session, 80 percent for the second, 90 percent for the third, and 95 percent for the fourth. In October/November 2017, 70% of conscripts did not show up for the “Fall 2017” recall campaign. This is not counting suicides and desertions (often over to the autonomists), which reached up to 30 percent of the workforce in the ATO area. Young Ukrainians refused to go and fight in the Donbass and preferred emigration, which also explains, at least partially, the demographic deficit of the country.
The Ukrainian Ministry of Defense then turned to NATO to help make its armed forces more “attractive.” Having already worked on similar projects within the framework of the United Nations, I was asked by NATO to participate in a program to restore the image of the Ukrainian armed forces. But this is a long-term process and the Ukrainians wanted to move quickly.
So, to compensate for the lack of soldiers, the Ukrainian government resorted to paramilitary militias. They are essentially composed of foreign mercenaries, often extreme right-wing militants. In 2020, they constituted about 40 percent of the Ukrainian forces and numbered about 102,000 men, according to Reuters. They were armed, financed and trained by the United States, Great Britain, Canada and France. There were more than 19 nationalities—including Swiss.

The Ukrainian army will not win the war nor will the fascist militias. The country simply has no chance.

'Western' governments are abusing the Ukraine and its soldiers. They want to 'weaken Russia' and do not allow the Ukraine to sue for peace.

That is criminal.

The Ukraine has lost the war. All the weapons systems the 'west' is now pushing into it are of no use as the Ukraine obviously lacks the men to field them. They will likely get pilfered and in future some of them may well be used against the 'west' itself.

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The situation on the fronts on the evening of May 4 - google translated from Russian news

"By tradition, the Russian Army continues to destroy transport infrastructure in the evening in order to impede the supply of weapons and fuel from the West and "calibrate" strategic facilities. So, after 20:00 there were reports of a strike on the Amur bridge in the Dnieper. Attacks were confirmed in the Kyiv region (the Brovary district of the village of Trebukhov), the Kherson region, the Odessa region and in Nikolaev. And also in Volyn, Kovel, Kirovograd and Zaporozhye regions.

The situation on the fronts in a nutshell:
Near Kharkov, there are “buttings” for Russian Lozovaya, the fighting continues to this day. They also carried out a successful attack in the direction of Stary Saltov, pushing a light curtain of LPR reservists, there is a threat of a breakthrough further to Volchansk and Kupyansk.

In the Izyum direction, the RF Armed Forces are carrying out offensive operations in the direction of Barvenkovo. Fighting continues north of the Barvenkovo-Slavyansk highway. It has not yet been possible to reach the highway, although it is already possible to carry out its fire defeat. The fighting is going on in the Kurulki-Pashkovo area. Fighting continues near Bolshaya /Velyka/ Kamyshevakha. The most successful offensive is shown by the "O" grouping in the Liman area.

Lugansk. During the shelling of the village of Mikhailovka from Smerch, Father Parfeniy, the rector of the local Temple, who has already sheltered more than 300 refugees, was killed. The temple itself was also heavily damaged.
Rubizhne is regularly fired upon by the temporarily occupied Severodonetsk and Lysichansk Ukrainian Armed Forces.
Tough battles are going on for Orekhovo, today we took Svetlichnoe and Nizhnee.

On the Donetsk front in the Avdeevka industrial zone, medium-intensity battles continue without serious advances. To the north, fighting is going on at Novoselka-2 and Novobakhmutovka. The troops of the DPR managed to enter Troitskoye - fighting continues in the area of the village.
Attempts to advance to New York /not a typo, seriously there's a village called New York/ from the east have not yet brought significant success. At the same time, the enemy continues to shell the settlements of the DPR - Donetsk, Makeevka, Yasinovataya, Yelenovka, etc...

Zaporizhzhya region on the line Kamianske-Orekhov-Gulyaipole no big changes. There were only battles south of Orekhov. There are also battles on the outskirts of Gulyaipole. To the east of Gulyaipole, fighting continues for various villages. There is no significant progress. The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine declares that the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are just probing the defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and are accumulating a strike force.

In Mariupol, fighting continues in Azovstal, the neutralization of militants by means of artillery continues. The leader of "Azov" said that the troops of Russia and the DPR broke through to "Azovstal" yesterday, there are heavy bloody battles, the situation is critical.

In the Yuzhnobuzh and Tauride directions, Russian troops are conducting military operations in order to hold the occupied territories and create conditions for intensifying offensive operations in the Kherson-Nikolaev and Kherson-Krivoy Rog directions.

Our border areas are unusually quiet today. The bridge, damaged a couple of days ago in the Kursk region, has been restored.

The classic shelling of civilians continued: the Armed Forces of Ukraine shelled Donetsk twice after midnight, firing a total of nine shells. Again today the whole day under the fire of Yasinovataya. Moreover, the Nazis are hitting residential areas with the use of MLRS BM-21 Grad. As a result of the attack of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the oil depot in Makeyevka, 4 tanks of 5 thousand tons each burned."

Rare update on ukrainian activity - Kharkiv/ Izyum

"The command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine continues its attempts to force the Seversky Donets River in the Kharkiv region. Engineer units, under the cover of air defense systems, established two crossings across the river. A battalion of the 14th brigade with tanks and armored personnel carriers, a 122-mm Gvozdika installation and MLRS installations was transferred to the area of the settlements of Zavgorodnee, Protopopovka and Petrovskoye. Target designation is carried out by the Bayraktar UAV, probably from the Chuguev airfield.
Moreover, additional units from the 14th brigade and 4th brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine have been transferred to Pervomaisky and Razdolie.
In total, more than 2,500 people and 80 armored vehicles, as well as several dozen artillery mounts and MLRS are involved in the attack on Izyum.
The efforts of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are focused on securing on the opposite bank of the river and reaching the flank of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation through the forest. For many days now, the Ukrainian command has been trying to force the Seversky Donets River and gain a foothold in this position for a subsequent offensive."
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