The Russian-Ukrainian War of 2022 (News and battle updates)

Ember

Hummingbird
Other Christian
Gold Member
I would assume that Russian foreign intelligence and reconnaissance are closely monitoring the situation at the border, especially NATO troop movements and activities.
I said civvy trucks. That means civilian. You don't think NATO are going to smuggle stuff in with easily identifiable military convoys, do you?
There is no reason to assume that Russia has any means to search civilian traffic coming into a large area that they do not yet control.
 

Belgrano

Ostrich
Gold Member
You don't think NATO are going to smuggle stuff in with easily identifiable military convoys, do you?
You don't think Russia is dumb enough to not consider that possibility, do you?

There is no reason to assume that Russia has any means to search civilian traffic coming into a large area that they do not yet control.
They don't need to search it, they will try to identify the vehicles involved before they cross the border.
 

Cynllo

Woodpecker
Other Christian
I heard a projection by a guy on infowars who said that it was the U.S. military plan to lure China and Russia into nuking the U.S. so then the U.S. could deploy all this high-tech stuff and conquer China/Russia. Don't know, it sounded pretty far fetched to me when I heard him say that. Feels like we're getting into the alien psy-op territory and everything is merging...

That's Joel Skousen. His uncle was Cleon Skousen, a former FBI agent and one of the earliest new world order "conspiracy theorists".

Joel's work is somewhat of a continuation of Cleon's.

Cleon wrote in his '58 book The Naked Communist, the goals of Communists in America.

11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world
government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily
by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)
12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.
13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.
14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.
15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.
16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the
curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
18. Gain control of all student newspapers.
19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.
20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, and policymaking positions.
21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was
told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."
24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion
pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, and healthy."
27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for
intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."
28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of
"separation of church and state." (Remember these goals were published to expose them in 1958) Coincidence?
29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to
cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."
31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a
minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.
32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies,
welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
33. Eliminate all laws or procedures, which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.
34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.
36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.
38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric
disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].
39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who
oppose Communist goals.
40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and
retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.
42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and
special-interest groups should rise up and use ["] united force ["] to solve economic, political or social problems.
43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.
44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.
45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over
domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.

* I did not include the first ten, as they related to economic communism and didn't come to pass. But he was very accurate on the above social stuff. You would have been (and he was) called a loonie for saying these things in the 50s onwards, but that is all mainstream Democrat politics now.

He later realised that there was a combined effort to destroy tradition and America via the pincers of capitalism and cultural revolutionary communism.

The picture Joel Scousen presents is that America is being deliberately weakened to induce China to attack it. This will be used to galvanise much of the world into a mliteraised world order to attack China. It will also be revealed that The US possesses space-based weapons far beyond the capabilities of other nations.

Half way through the war Russia will be convinced to turn on China, and the war will be won for the NWO. In the following period there will be a new cold war with China.

If that happened to happen, I imagine both The US and Russia would end up being broken up, and the world would enter a much more globalised phase, as like the ends of WWI + WWII.

As for such weapons, there was some high level US scientist who said that The US had the weapons to decapitate every world leader from space within 30 minutes. This was reiterated by nuclear physicist Bob Bowman. There is other claims of this nature, such as the internal revelation that The CIA had heart-attack guns in the 1960s.

Also supporting this claim, is the very long history of The US going out of its way and footing the bill to build up China, and doing nothing about all China's espionage, IP theft etc.

If you consider the Orange Man in this context. Maybe one reason the establishment got in such a fit about him is that he wanted to stop this agenda playing out. There are the videos of Trump complaining about this back to the 80s.

Deep state gremlins have somehow left The US become a leaky ship of corruption and theft for the benefit of China? Yet they come down on anyone and everything that gets in their ways. As Chuck Schumer says, they got seven ways from Sunday of dealing with you. These same gremlins will see America is massively declining in reputation and competence. They do nothing. It doesn't add up. And most of them don't need to know why it doesn't add up. Virtually anyone in position is in position, because they will tow the line from above.

As I see it, there are only two ways of looking at how things are:

- Skousen is broadly right
- America is absolutely riddled with corruption and profiteering, incompetence and insanity
 

Going strong

Crow
Orthodox Inquirer
Gold Member


It's more than that :
The Russian army - as I predicted 3 weeks ago they would ( https://www.rooshvforum.com/threads/ukraine-lounge.15139/page-166#post-1571076 ) - are trying to implement a new version of the Vistula-Oder operation, with, for reference, Kherson as Krakow.

But unfortunately, the Ukrainians, advised by Western/NATO professionals, are, at the moment, countering a bit better than Hitler did. The Russians will have to focus on Kiev and capturing Zelensky, hopefully tonight.

Now, if the Stingers and other anti aircraft (or antitank) weaponry recently given by NATO to Ukraine, really hamper the progress of the Russian forces, Putin will have no other choice than using more and more powerful weapons himself, including, possibly, dreaded thermobaric bombs against the government headquarters of Kiev, I'm afraid.

The Ukrainians are just digging their own graves deeper, provoking the Russians more and more, and dragging a few Russian soldiers with them... all this is extremely sad.

If the Ukrainians had put half this effort into taking their country back from Zelensky/Biden hands, war would not even have been necessary.

In any case, people gloating when a Russian plane is (allegedly) brought down, should realise that, every Russian warplane shot down, brings the Ukrainian military closer to receiving thermobaric bombs or other extreme measures onto themselves. Nothing to cheer, here.

Well, the only thing to cheer would be Zelensky fleeing with his gold across the Mediterranean, which would be nicer than Zelensky receiving a cruel Ceaucescu punishment. Because if Zelensky is caught, I hope (and think) he'll be treated with dignity and due process of law.
 
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Cynllo

Woodpecker
Other Christian
To add to the above on Joel Skousen.

This is what he has to say on the UA-RU situation:

This past Wednesday Ukraine was invaded from three directions by Russian forces in a combined attack that finally settled all of the arguments around the world about whether Russia would invade Ukraine proper or be satisfied with occupying the two separatist regions of Donbas–Donetsk and Luhansk, which they had already sent troops into earlier in the week. As I predicted, the attack came from troops north of Kiev in Belarus, and to the south in Crimea in a pincers attack, in addition to the main force from the East. It appears Putin’s intent is to completely destroy Ukraine’s military capacity so that he can control Ukraine as a vassal state without having to destroy cities or occupy the country directly. He will have to control Ukraine’s borders and airports so that the West cannot rearm Ukraine if Putin claims she is still a sovereign nation—which will be a sham. Putin went to great lengths to construct a rationale of “self-defense” for the invasion based upon a series of lies about how Ukraine was attacking Donbas and Luhansk, when in fact, it has always been Russia fomenting and instigating any unrest in these areas, and it was Russian artillery forces that recently fired upon the Ukrainian forces to start an artillery duel that Putin could use to justify the larger attack. That false (and thinly veiled) rationale is still being used to justify the destruction of Ukraine’s military so that “it can no longer threaten the two breakaway regions.” Although the media will not say it, Russia’s claimed support for separatist movements is highly hypocritical and does not extend to any group trying to flee his control, as proven by his sending troops into Kazakhstan to silence the independence movement there—billed as mere social unrest over fuel prices.

Jones has re-released a 2010 video, seemingly of Skousen predicting the general timeline we are on:


His last appearance was on 21 Jan 2022:

 

Don Quixote

Ostrich
Orthodox Inquirer


Does anyone think there is a chance of peace talks? If sincere, then it would confirm to me that the West only provoked Russia to produce the current situation of sanctions and the complete schism of the world into two polarities. In other words, Ukraine was treated as a piece of meat dangled before the wolves.
 

Going strong

Crow
Orthodox Inquirer
Gold Member
He's that helicopter guy.

Not quite, he's the former president of Chile who, faced with an overwhelming military attack against him, decided to sacrifice his life, by stepping outside of his Presidential Palace, gun in hand. He was killed in battle right away and the hostilities ceased.

Note to @BarrontheTigercat : I'm giving here the official Castro/Trudeau version of Allende's death. This version is still today taught to every Cuban people.

If Zelensky wants glory in History books and a quick end to the suffering of Ukraine, he can do just that, I would actually applaud. His body would then be respectfully repatriated by plane to his original land. Or buried in Uman.
 
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C-Note

Hummingbird
Other Christian
Gold Member
It seems like reports of Russian troop movements towards Kiev faded as night fell. Perhaps the Russians paused their ground forces, are bringing up supplies, getting some rest, and rearming their armored vehicles and troops while they soften up the city's defenses and infrastructure with missile and aircraft attacks. Then, they'll launch their ground attack about an hour or two before dawn. It's 0230 there right now, and sunrise is at 0630, so if the Russians have their stuff together and follow this plan, it should kick off in about two hours.

I don't know what the Ukrainian defense plan is. I can't tell from the videos posted during the day today. They blew that one bridge, and they appear to be guarding some installations that they expect there might be a Russian paratroop drop. I also saw that photo of them apparently putting a rocket artillery battery in a city square. Other than that, I can't tell what they're doing. If the Ukrainians have any units that are roaming the countryside behind Russian lines, now might be a good time to take out the Russian's supply units.
 
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BarrontheTigercat

Kingfisher
Other Christian
He's that helicopter guy.
Not sure .. if trolling..
Not quite, he's the former president of Chile who, faced with an overwhelming military attack against him, decided to sacrifice his life, by stepping outside of his Presidential Palace, gun in hand. He was killed in battle right away and the hostilities ceased.
Not quite @Going strong !
Wikipedia says he shot himself. Many believed he was killed by govt agents but an exhumation and autopsy revealed 2 bullets through his under-jaw exiting the top of his skull with an automatic rifle positioned between his legs. Their verdict: suicide.
 

infowarrior1

Crow
Protestant
To elaborate on my own post, I used the phrase "ethnic nationalist," because it's a popular phrase today, but it's redundant. To quote Confucius, "the beginning of wisdom is to call things by their proper name."

Nation (n.)
c. 1300, nacioun, "a race of people, large group of people with common ancestry and language," from Old French nacion "birth, rank, descendants, relatives; country, homeland" (12c.) and directly from Latin nationem (nominative natio) "birth, origin; breed, stock, kind, species, race of people, tribe," literally "that which has been born," from natus, past participle of nasci "be born" (Old Latin gnasci), from PIE root *gene- "give birth, beget," with derivatives referring to procreation and tribal groups.

As you can see the only actual meaning of the word nation is a people related by blood, stemming from birth. That's it. The word gets so misused today, as an example the United States is no longer a nation, it's an empire composed of many different nations. So too now is the UK. So too is Russia. For those of us whom resist being destroyed in an empire of imposed diversity, in what used to be our exclusive nations, it's good to learn to call things by their proper name. From now on, we can completely dispel any notion of Putin, the ruler of the Russian empire, as the savior of our race, as he specifically cited the Ukranian's "primitive barbaric nationalism" as needing to be subsumed by Russia, which he cited as a virtuous multi-ethnic empire. Furthermore, you can forget Vlad as the great Orthodox leader, as he has just shown that he is more than willing to deploy hordes of Chechen Muslims to slaughter Ukranian Orthodox Christians on their ancestral homeland. How could this be more clear?

The fact that Nationalism since WWI and WWII has been manipuIated by the ruling powers to wage war. Has associated it with militarism and aggression against other Nations.

With the resulting demonization of what is actually a good intended by God in a diversity of people's like the different coloured flowers of a field.

Without coercion people will multiply ever since Adam into many different Nations even if intermarriage occurs it just results in the acceleration of the process.

Something otherwise good if not subject to God and Divine Law can end up being a force of destruction and a tool for global centralization. After the blood of countless Nationalists on the Altar of War according to Satan's design of world unification.

Is it not a coincidence that Globalism truly came about after the World Wars by its manipulation of Nationalism?
 
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