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<blockquote data-quote="PainPositive" data-source="post: 984295" data-attributes="member: 9374"><p>I'm biased because my mother is a Serb. and I lived in Serbia for awhile but I've never met anyone who visited who didn't comment on how "nice" Serbians are. In my experience it goes much deeper than "nice". Living in Serbia is like living in a small town, even if you're in Beograd. Everyone calls each other "brate" and "sestra" or brother and sister, people will go out of their way to help you, and have strong <strong>family values</strong>. </p><p></p><p>But somehow, people have the impression that Serbs are mean, violent, criminal types. Nothing could be further from the truth. This is from the West's depiction of them during the wars, and still (to some extent) today.</p><p></p><p>I went on a tour to a museum once. The tour guide was a young attractive Serbian girl. She came up to me while I was marveling at Tito's photography collection and other accomplishments. She started to speak in Serbian, assuming I was one. (Everyone tells me I look "so Serbian") She was a normal girl and I got the vibe she was <em>somewhat</em> liberal having studied in Northern Europe. That being said, she gave a very unbiased depiction of what happened during the wars as some posters in this thread have. That all sides committed crimes.</p><p></p><p>Two guys were with me (non forum members) and I don't want to mention what country they are from as not to insult anyone (Canada). These two faggots would not even entertain the idea that Serbians were not murdering savages the MSM made them out to be. I got into such a loud heated debate with them everyone must have thought I was a young nationalist born in the country. All the Serbs and people with Serbian relatives joined in on my side of the fight. Although I didn't need help crushing the nitwits and their emotion based arguments as I'm a good debater and outspoken as well, but it was nice to see the natural reaction to defend their people's character. Opposed to all the floppy, bitch wristed, faggots and their white guilt in America. </p><p></p><p>The funny part is these two guys had gotten nothing but hospitality, love, kindness, respect, even loyalty from the Serbs during their 4 month stay in Novi Sad (Their words) and still couldn't betray the narrative of the garbage they learned in their liberal PC university. Even when presented with strong evidence, they could not even consider their point of view could be a sham. I don't fault them for getting bad information from a Backwards University, but for sticking to it so hard. Canada must have some affluence for being a fucking zombie because everyone I meet seems like they are suffering from a mild mental retardation of some sort.</p><p></p><p>When I came to Serbia I had no opinion of the wars. Some of the most vague childhood memories I have are ones where my mother is crying on the phone in front of the TV to her "Family in Yugoslavia" as my Dad put it. She called Clinton a "asshole" and swore a lot in Serbian. That's about all. (Not exactly a geopolitical analyst) After I arrived in Serbia old people I met started asking me "Why you bomb us?" (The only english phrase they seem to know, and my reply was always "I haven't bombed anyone lately") so I started reading. </p><p></p><p>Obviously being in the American Army and being patriotic gave me some bias but the love of all things Serbian balanced it out. I read the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugoslav_Wars" target="_blank">wikipedia page</a> on the conflicts and thought "This is probably bullshit" after 5 minutes. I think I saw the death tolls were too close to be the massacre they made it out to be. The wording was almost passive aggressive towards Serbs. I spoke to everyone I could about it and researched more and came to the conclusion that while Serbs are not completely innocent, they are certainly not monsters they are made out to be.</p><p></p><p>I hope this paints a relevant picture. I wanted to comment on the rise of Muslims in Bosnia but this post is already too long winded. </p><p></p><p>PP</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PainPositive, post: 984295, member: 9374"] I'm biased because my mother is a Serb. and I lived in Serbia for awhile but I've never met anyone who visited who didn't comment on how "nice" Serbians are. In my experience it goes much deeper than "nice". Living in Serbia is like living in a small town, even if you're in Beograd. Everyone calls each other "brate" and "sestra" or brother and sister, people will go out of their way to help you, and have strong [b]family values[/b]. But somehow, people have the impression that Serbs are mean, violent, criminal types. Nothing could be further from the truth. This is from the West's depiction of them during the wars, and still (to some extent) today. I went on a tour to a museum once. The tour guide was a young attractive Serbian girl. She came up to me while I was marveling at Tito's photography collection and other accomplishments. She started to speak in Serbian, assuming I was one. (Everyone tells me I look "so Serbian") She was a normal girl and I got the vibe she was [i]somewhat[/i] liberal having studied in Northern Europe. That being said, she gave a very unbiased depiction of what happened during the wars as some posters in this thread have. That all sides committed crimes. Two guys were with me (non forum members) and I don't want to mention what country they are from as not to insult anyone (Canada). These two faggots would not even entertain the idea that Serbians were not murdering savages the MSM made them out to be. I got into such a loud heated debate with them everyone must have thought I was a young nationalist born in the country. All the Serbs and people with Serbian relatives joined in on my side of the fight. Although I didn't need help crushing the nitwits and their emotion based arguments as I'm a good debater and outspoken as well, but it was nice to see the natural reaction to defend their people's character. Opposed to all the floppy, bitch wristed, faggots and their white guilt in America. The funny part is these two guys had gotten nothing but hospitality, love, kindness, respect, even loyalty from the Serbs during their 4 month stay in Novi Sad (Their words) and still couldn't betray the narrative of the garbage they learned in their liberal PC university. Even when presented with strong evidence, they could not even consider their point of view could be a sham. I don't fault them for getting bad information from a Backwards University, but for sticking to it so hard. Canada must have some affluence for being a fucking zombie because everyone I meet seems like they are suffering from a mild mental retardation of some sort. When I came to Serbia I had no opinion of the wars. Some of the most vague childhood memories I have are ones where my mother is crying on the phone in front of the TV to her "Family in Yugoslavia" as my Dad put it. She called Clinton a "asshole" and swore a lot in Serbian. That's about all. (Not exactly a geopolitical analyst) After I arrived in Serbia old people I met started asking me "Why you bomb us?" (The only english phrase they seem to know, and my reply was always "I haven't bombed anyone lately") so I started reading. Obviously being in the American Army and being patriotic gave me some bias but the love of all things Serbian balanced it out. I read the [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugoslav_Wars]wikipedia page[/url] on the conflicts and thought "This is probably bullshit" after 5 minutes. I think I saw the death tolls were too close to be the massacre they made it out to be. The wording was almost passive aggressive towards Serbs. I spoke to everyone I could about it and researched more and came to the conclusion that while Serbs are not completely innocent, they are certainly not monsters they are made out to be. I hope this paints a relevant picture. I wanted to comment on the rise of Muslims in Bosnia but this post is already too long winded. PP [/QUOTE]
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