The Stefan Molyneux Thread

Malone

Pelican
Gold Member
Horus said:
Here's another interview from a New Zealand journalist. I think the interviewer did an excellent job of asking tough questions while not letting her bias get in the way of giving them an opportunity of explaining their point of view. The result was an extremely interesting and compelling interview. Of course, it was never broadcast.


She got triggered near the end by the feminism talk. Obviously hit a nerve there when Stefan told her that the female PM wasn't as good a mom as she could be.

"You don't have to be at home to be a good mom!"
 

Bazzwaldo

Woodpecker
The Catalyst said:
Bazzwaldo said:
Have you noticed Molyneux and Southern tend to play identitarian politics which is cultural marxism 101, albeit this time for the right wing white but none the less successful in causing division and angst among the inhabitants within the western countries they're touring in?

:lolwtf:

The Catalyst, not sure what your meme and highlighting is referring to?
is it:
1) Poor use of English to the point of incomprehensibility
2) Factually incorrect
If its (1), please ask me to explain as i'd be happy to, if its (2), please correct it with words so I can at least learn from your knowledge or repudiate it
 
What makes you assume they are CAUSING the division? Looking at the whole picture and what they are pushing would give the opposite impression- they are seeing the division and angst that already exists and are trying to find solutions
 

budoslavic

Owl
Gold Member
Bazzwaldo said:
Have you noticed Molyneux and Southern tend to play identitarian politics which is cultural marxism 101, albeit this time for the right wing white but none the less successful in causing division and angst among the inhabitants within the western countries they're touring in?
When will people wake up and see they're being played like fiddles
Don't be surprised if they're bought and owned by the ultimate (((race supremacists))) because she sounds like the crypto variety and he an obsequious closet version of one
Says who? Where are you getting your information from? What media do you rely on?

Without providing a shred of proof or source to back up your claims, your post reeks SJW. :troll:

There are people who are trying to shut down Southern's voice on various social media platforms as she's more outspoken than Molyneaux on a lot of issues that the Left/Liberals doesn't want her information to get out.
 

Johnnyvee

Pelican
CynicalContrarian said:
Johnnyvee said:
There seems to be some kind of chemistry going on in between them, judging from the videos I`ve seen lately. Maybe she`s getting some of that BPC. (Big Philosophers Cock)

Or she's too accustomed to being around younger less confident men & likes what she sees in an older gentleman.


Enoch said:
Did you get her number? Someone on this forum needs to get their LS flag.

No. I was there largely for the Farmlands documentary. Wasn't too fussed about seeing or meeting either personality.
Was also there to witness a bit of a ruckus in person as opposed to watching all these YouTube or Periscope clips from around the world; yet as stated. Nothing on that front either.

Not saying it is a bad thing if they have something going. I like the pairing of young and beautiful females, with the somewhat older and rational-masculine man. It`s a good combo that I plan to capitalize on
myself eventually:banana:
 

Bazzwaldo

Woodpecker
The Catalyst said:
What makes you assume they are CAUSING the division? Looking at the whole picture and what they are pushing would give the opposite impression- they are seeing the division and angst that already exists and are trying to find solutions

Thanks The Catalyst for getting back to me and giving some clarification to your post
I’m not actually assuming they (molyneaux and Southern) are causing division I am observing it
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-07-...ce-outside-event-for-lauren-southern/10019554

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...n-Southern-kicks-speaking-tour-Melbourne.html

https://www.theguardian.com/austral...ps-promotion-of-lauren-southern-is-disturbing

https://www.reddit.com/r/australia/comments/90i81r/protesters_at_lauren_southern_event_clash_with/

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/auckland/hundreds-gather-to-protest-racism/

This is just a sample of what has been written about them on their speaking tour of Australia, New Zealand and the UK. I personally have no skin in the game other than observe they are useful in creating division and anger to the point of protesting in the streets.
They claim to be using free speech but the agenda is an identitarion one where division within a group is sought and obviously succeeds (street protests)
I used to think like you currently do but had a massive red pill epiphany after reading Kevin MacDonald’s Culture of Critique, see my response to Budoslavic where I enlarge on his thesis
 

Bazzwaldo

Woodpecker
budoslavic said:
Bazzwaldo said:
Have you noticed Molyneux and Southern tend to play identitarian politics which is cultural marxism 101, albeit this time for the right wing white but none the less successful in causing division and angst among the inhabitants within the western countries they're touring in?
When will people wake up and see they're being played like fiddles
Don't be surprised if they're bought and owned by the ultimate (((race supremacists))) because she sounds like the crypto variety and he an obsequious closet version of one
Says who? Where are you getting your information from? What media do you rely on?

Without providing a shred of proof or source to back up your claims, your post reeks SJW. :troll:

There are people who are trying to shut down Southern's voice on various social media platforms as she's more outspoken than Molyneaux on a lot of issues that the Left/Liberals doesn't want her information to get out.


Thanks Budoslavic for your interest and comments
Firstly let me assure you I am not trolling nor am I a SJW as you suggest
You ask “Says who?”
I am currently reading Kevin MacDonald’s Culture of Critique (3rd in a triology) after reading his second book Separation and its Discontents. (The first of his books A People That shall dwell alone)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_B._MacDonald
It is a compelling examination and evolutionary analysis of the history of the Jewish race, their religious beginnings and ostracisms over millennia
Jews are without doubt an enigma when you discover their amazing history, especially with regard to their 20th century involvement in the intellectual and political movements.
I highly recommend you read the 3rd instalment of his work as it articulately outlines their involvement in that century’s most important historical chapters including instigating the Bolshevik revolution, establishing the Bosian school of Anthropology’s and its influence of Dawinian social sciences, their overwhelming influence in the Psychoanalytic movement and the Frankfurt School of Social research on critical theory
He explains how and why they have succeeded and the methods used especially using cultural Marxism and the culture of Critique as a tool of dismantling patriarchal out group societies that prevail in the west
He acknowledges the massive over representation of people of Jewish ancestry in the banking and media industry
“Where are you getting your information from? What media do you rely on?”
Well that’s a great question given Jews own a significant portion of the media
http://www.ascertainthetruth.com/at...-zionist-companies-own-96-of-the-worlds-media
I read a great deal (examples above) but also view online material in quality forums like this and to a lesser extent youtube, vimeo etc
It’s a fair comment you having a crack at me for not providing sources and whilst I’d love to give you proof, I can’t. Kevin MacDonalds work is an exhaustive dissertation on this very subject but I remind myself that a dissertation is akin to a thesis and I see it as such
My comments are based on observation along with supporting evidence as provided
As this thread is actually about Molyneaux and not Southern, I must concede my knowledge of her is limited to a few interviews conducted under the umbrella of Infowars (I didn’t subscribe to AJ views but vehemently defend his right to free speech).
I am interested to hear back from you on what unique views she has that are not Left or Right because (‘the Left/Liberals doesn't want her information to get out’)?
 

Eusebius

Hummingbird
Gold Member
1. Group A creates a social and political climate hostile to Group B through influence in academia, politics, media, etc.
2. A couple of spokespeople stand up for group B. They have some support while many are opposed.
3. Because of their less than 100% support, Bazzwaldo calls these people out for "causing division".
4. (prediction) Bazzwaldo calls me out for causing division when I suggest going to a Thai restaurant and less than 100% of my friends are on board with that.

Or to put it another way, "saying stuff that people disagree with is bad" is not an argument.

Also, Bazz, you don't understand what "skin in the game" means and the word salad is strong with you (but not your use of paragraphs). I think you're in a bit above your head here if you're not a troll.
 

Bazzwaldo

Woodpecker
RawGod said:
1. Group A creates a social and political climate hostile to Group B through influence in academia, politics, media, etc.
2. A couple of spokespeople stand up for group B. They have some support while many are opposed.
3. Because of their less than 100% support, Bazzwaldo calls these people out for "causing division".
4. (prediction) Bazzwaldo calls me out for causing division when I suggest going to a Thai restaurant and less than 100% of my friends are on board with that.

Or to put it another way, "saying stuff that people disagree with is bad" is not an argument.

Also, Bazz, you don't understand what "skin in the game" means and the word salad is strong with you (but not your use of paragraphs). I think you're in a bit above your head here if you're not a troll.

Rawgod, thanks for your succinct appraisal, this is what I’m conveying

1) Group J joins a social and political climate, then surreptitiously alters it by devising and inspiring 2 groups, group A and group B
2) Group A thinks Cultural Marxist ideas like feminism and multiculturism is correct and have spokespeople inspire people to join them, group B believes in Nationalism and race identity is correct and have spokespeople inspire people to join them
3) Group A and B hate each other’s point of view but don’t realize Group J devised them for the very purpose of social unrest through ideological then physical clashing

Your prediction is wrong rawgod (point 4), you have conflated my comments with the idea of 100% acceptance as being part of my observation, is it over your head?
I think you misunderstand what it is I’m trying to convey, I do have word salad issues …it’s a work in progress!
I do however challenge you to directly quote where I said that (groups???) saying stuff that people disagree with is bad or in fact part of my observation?
Saying stuff that people disagree with is part of life, being used as pawns to divide a society that is culturally based on acceptance and mild cohesion around patriarchy is poisonous

A google search says To have "skin in the game" is to have incurred risk (monetary or otherwise) by being involved in achieving a goal, observing the motives and actions of the 3 groups to me means I have no skin in the game, iron in the fire etc etc….it means I refuse to be a participant, a pawn and hope that others will wake up to this too
 

CynicalContrarian

Owl
Gold Member
Text of the notice 'Axiomatic Events' have sent to the Victorian (Aus.) police after the Stefan / Southern event :

The Victorian Government has gone too far.

Axiomatic Events director, Dave Pellowe, has sent Victoria Police a letter explaining why he is refusing to pay the invoice for $67,842.50 they sent Axiomatic for police services outside the Lauren Southern & Stefan Molyneux Live event in Melbourne on 20 July.

The letter from Axiomatic's solicitor highlights concerns that, despite the skill and bravery of police on the ground in dealing with the violent behaviour of extremist individuals and organisations like Antifa, the government appears to blame the victim. Such a penalty gives the appearance of enabling the Thugs' Veto, adding to the injuries extremists can inflict by inciting such protests.

Mr Pellowe is concerned that simply paying the crippling bill would create a precedent by which other event organisers around Australia will change or even cancel their plans to hold political events which might attract the unwanted attention of extremists, and subsequently an enormous bill from law enforcement.

"The Andrews government has the gall to call this 'user pays' policing, but the reality is that it's victim-blaming. Our event was a normal sized crowd in a venue that routinely hosts such crowds. We broke no laws and went above and beyond to cooperate with police, and greatly appreciate the work they do. But if Police Minister Lisa Neville is looking for creative ways to fundraise for Victoria Police she can keep looking. The fair and just way to go about it would be to issue a $1,000 fine to every thug who blocked the highway, who abused & intimidated the mums, dads and kids who came along, who damaged private property and turned Melbourne into a Berkeley war zone. Sending us the bill for their lawlessness appears to be simply enabling the Thugs' Veto."

Axiomatic's letter to Victoria Police further explains that their legal advice has been that if the Andrews government wanted to pursue the matter in Courts they would likely lose because the invoice radically undermines the practical exercise of common law rights and freedoms. The letter states, "The imposition of fees for the performance of essential police purposes is unlawful," and quotes the Victoria Police Act (2013).

"The role of Victoria Police is to serve the Victorian Community and uphold the law so as to promote a safe, secure and orderly society."

Mr Pellowe stated that not only is there at least one YouTube video of an extremist boasting of his contributions to the behaviour that saw Victoria Police invoice Axiomatic for keeping the peace and recruiting others to do the same in Brisbane, but that he's already been informed of other political groups changing their plans to specifically avoid a "$68,000 police bill".

"The effect this has on important public debates is devastating. We cannot let this stand. I implore Premier Daniel Andrews and Police Minister Lisa Neville to commit to upholding the peace at future political events without blaming the victims and to reconsider the comfort they're inadvertently lending to the Thugs' Veto."
 
I've had an account on Seeking Arrangement for 5+ just for lurking. Too bad I am in Asia (with almost no members on it) so it doesn't particularly help me right now.

My interest got peaked in it after seeing a news article about some old guy who convinced a young sugar baby to whore herself out to him for $250 a week (way cheaper than prostitute rates) until she shot him with a gun. I am assuming in most cases the women don't shoot you (hopefully) but it shows you can negotiate the THOTs down.
 

Conquerer7

Woodpecker
gework said:
Moly on SeekingArrangements game:



I'm 35 minutes in. Quite like Stefan on certain topics but he is delusional here about the whole ruining girls, iPhone necessities and so on. He tends to have a weak point with the sexual marketplace. I think he believes girls think logically. All girls care about is the moment they are in. He is acting as if it's the fault of guys doing this or guys banging girls from nightclubs for a night and ruining the chance of pair bonding. Girls would just do it with the next guy along if this guy wasn't present.
 

eradicator

Peacock
Gold Member
Ehh, I'm less interested in Moly's thoughts on the subject but the caller seems to have had an interesting life: 5 attractive wives including 2 from Ukraine/ussr/Siberia, he clearly has or had some game. I would have been a lot more impressed if he was stringing the sugar babies along and telling them on the first meeting that he will sponsor them and start paying them depending on how well they perform that evening, and to think of it as an audition and that he wouldn't buy a car without getting a test drive first. And then just never pay and move onto the next girl. That is how you treat these hoes and should be the take away you get from sugar daddying

But I digress, he is 60 and about at the end of the game anyways.
 
Game for a 60 year old:

Firm handshake with a manager at a factory / office and you got the job (no interview necessary). Decades later $60,000+ w/ pension under a grandfathered contract when millennial employees make $25,000 and no pension option.

School? Just a part-time job over the summer will pay for it.

Want a house? Just save for 2 years and you qualify for a mortgage.

Want a wife? Just impregnate her and get a shotgun wedding or don't be a jerk.

Can have sex with 100+ women without a condom and probably won't get any STIs (they didn't explode until the 1990s for the most part).


Yeah what was the case for old farts isn't applicable these days for younger men (and dare I say women).
 

eradicator

Peacock
Gold Member
Listen to the video. He works out, learned Russian and traveled to Ukraine and the Ural mountains and Siberia to find wives and when he found an even hotter wife he would divorce and marry the hotter girl.

He clearly has been around the game all his life. You should know by now that we can't really rely on Stefan Molyneax for his advice on women, game, or self improvement. However, in this instance, his guest caller has some interesting things to say.
 

Kid Twist

Hummingbird
eradicator said:
Ehh, I'm less interested in Moly's thoughts on the subject but the caller seems to have had an interesting life: 5 attractive wives including 2 from Ukraine/ussr/Siberia, he clearly has or had some game. I would have been a lot more impressed if he was stringing the sugar babies along and telling them on the first meeting that he will sponsor them and start paying them depending on how well they perform that evening, and to think of it as an audition and that he wouldn't buy a car without getting a test drive first. And then just never pay and move onto the next girl. That is how you treat these hoes and should be the take away you get from sugar daddying

But I digress, he is 60 and about at the end of the game anyways.

Yes, I frequently wonder about this in the fashion that besides idiot beta schlubs, who pays girls like this (I guess that sets up the "salt" daddies as potentials to sell the dream, though)? I almost view it as a tinder reversal, as the girls there are selling the dream to 80% who have absolutely no shot either, just hoping for a chance in the same way these hoes are hoping to hit the jackpot with a guy that will just hand over $500 for no fucking reason at all, or worse, to spoon feed them ice cream because it's "fun". So, average joe on tinder is buying food and drinks for the fatty 5 or giving dopamine surges by messaging or being 1 of 1000 matches for Jane Tease; sometimes a few do hit the ONS jackpot but typically it's only 10% or less, and for most girls it's an outlet for the moment, or an impulse to cheat.

I wonder what Stefan would say if you don't pay, and you're not running scam game, lying to them about paying. It's literally exactly the same thing as tinder apps, which I'm making the argument are every bit as damaging, since resources are to women what sex is to men: highly desired.

I guess it sorta proves the point about the culture. When you recognize it for what it is, all things blend into one another as bullshit. While I don't think it's very common at all, I think it is wise to consider how dangerous all of these apps can be here and there, no matter which angle you are coming from.
 
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