The Stefan Molyneux Thread

Papaya

Peacock
Gold Member
Conquerer7 said:
gework said:
Moly on SeekingArrangements game:



I'm 35 minutes in. Quite like Stefan on certain topics but he is delusional here about the whole ruining girls, iPhone necessities and so on. He tends to have a weak point with the sexual marketplace. I think he believes girls think logically. All girls care about is the moment they are in. He is acting as if it's the fault of guys doing this or guys banging girls from nightclubs for a night and ruining the chance of pair bonding. Girls would just do it with the next guy along if this guy wasn't present.

He lost credibility with me when he said "Sex is better when its with the same partner over the long term".... Unless he was joking

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Tiger Man

Woodpecker
PapayaTapper said:
He lost credibility with me when he said "Sex is better when its with the same partner over the long term".... Unless he was joking

The only way that works is: "Sex is better when its with the same partner over the long term, if both you and her have only ever had sex with each other." And even that is spurious in many cases.
 

Horus

Ostrich
Gold Member
I burst into laughter when Stefan said that when the guy meets the sugar babies, instead of of paying them for sex, he should pay for them to get therapy.
:lolwtf:
 

Enoch

Ostrich
Horus said:
I burst into laughter when Stefan said that when the guy meets the sugar babies, instead of of paying them for sex, he should pay for them to get therapy.
:lolwtf:

Just got there and stopped listening.

I think Stefan has a blind spot here as he is trying to convince himself that his only child (daughter) won't act on the same urges that every other girl acts on.
 

ChicagoFire

Kingfisher
Moly can talk and captivate an audience. I was in attendance with one of his talks on Christianity and I was floored. I grew up in the church bored out of my mind so kudos to him. He's very intelligent. I'm not saying this as a fan since I haven't watched too many of his FRD videos.

With that being said and I haven't watched the sugar baby video, he DOES have that blind spot of him being a father and telling people not to do sugar daddy game. I'm not a father but being a dad really changes you into an overprotective parent for certain types of people and Moly fits that bill to the wire. Even if I were to be endowed with more money than I can handle I wouldn't go sugar baby gaming but I'm coming from the position that money is to be reinvested not from a protective dad perspective.

That doesn't mean he's less credible but just know that some people really are in no business giving advice on certain topics.
 

RatInTheWoods

Hummingbird
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Stefan Molyneux goes to Poland to experience nationalism, pride in Western culture, being unhindered to give free speech, and all things forbidden in the West.



 
RatInTheWoods said:
Stefan Molyneux goes to Poland to experience nationalism, pride in Western culture, being unhindered to give free speech, and all things forbidden in the West.

Stefan sometimes really spoils the broth and overdoes it in his analysis or leaves out parts.

As for your mentioning about free speech, RatInTheWoods, Poland actually has some super-retarded criminal defamation and "insult" laws. "Insult" can result in prosecution even when someone is telling the truth. Expect this legislation to be more weaponized when the pro-EU PO comes back to power and unleashes them on Polish nationalists critical of any move towards diversity.

The situation currently isn't as bad as it could be because PiS has the reins. Yet the laws on the books are awful, as the Kodeks Karny is really outdated and law reform was ad hoc during the 1990s.

Ironically, the EU has been right, despite my general hatred for the bureaucrats in Brussels, to question these laws.

Plenty of cases of journalists being prosecuted for criticizing the performance of public officials, scenarios that will only increase when laws are wielded against based Poles.

Stefan needs to avoid hyperbole at times. Polish nationalism is great but we need to be circumspect about the flaws in some of these countries like Poland.
 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
It is, immensely so.

Molyneux's last two sentences are the most important. Nobody derided as a racist or a misogynist or a homophobe is going to be able to sit this one out forever. The lunatics are yanking down statues of people that died hundreds of years ago. Everyone here has a bullet with their name on it.

Who should be foolish enough to think that the people at google can't hit 'print' on a local list of wrongthinkers complete with pictures, job locations and home addresses. I've already seperated myself from the Inverted geographically and now I'm in the process of separating myself psychologically from them too.

I can't remember where I quoted it from but a blogger explained that the Left call us murderous fascists because they project their own murderous, fascist personas on us, while conservatives project their own benevolent personas on the Left and think that if they just use the right words then the Left can be reasoned with.

Segregate yourself from the Inverted in all ways and by all means.
 

Coja Petrus Uscan

Hummingbird
Gold Member
Leonard D Neubache said:
I can't remember where I quoted it from but a blogger explained that the Left call us murderous fascists because they project their own murderous, fascist personas on us, while conservatives project their own benevolent personas on the Left and think that if they just use the right words then the Left can be reasoned with.

Interesting. I'd not though of it in those exact terms.

The way I see it personality traits have the conscious side that people know about and other people see; and they have an unconscious side that is suppressed. Everyone has different personality traits, but you can only kind of measure the conscious ones. It's why a lot of these shooters, like the new NZ one, are often described as nice, helping, quiet, agreeable. There's something else on the other side of that they don't know about.

If you push leftists with hate facts, ideas and things they don't like they will sometimes move out of their generally agreeable selves and into the dark unknown of their unconscious rage.




I think there are two reasons for this:

1) it threatens the integrity of the left wing organisation of society they want to live in – you're not only not holding it up, you're tearing it down
2) you are pricking the bubble of agreeableness that they want to live in. Agreeable people need to live in agreeable societies. We want to make it less agreeable, which does not suit them

Above I'm referring to full blown shift to their unconscious hate spewing out. What Leonard is referring to is the casual and relentless assault conservatives etc. have been under for a long time as bad, dangerous, horrible, PERNICIOUS!, heartless etc.

I think that's probably exactly as Leonard suggests. Conservatives are the designated acceptable area for leftists to let off a bit of this darkness they can't confront. If you want to live in an agreeable ecosystem, what better way to deal with disagreeability than dump it all in one area and blame it on someone else. Leftists won't say they are being disagreeable when they denigrate conservatives. They'll say they are sticking up for the little guy. It's why they voted for the biggest corporate recipient candidate the world has ever known.

These people are arranging themselves in a virtue hierarchy. It's important for them to see themselves and be seen as virtuous. So the worse parts of themselves come out in the designated area of conservatives, to be blamed on conservatives being morally inferior. So even if their darkness is seeping into their sub-consciousness, they can at least tell themselves they are better than the half of people who are bigots.

But it gets a bit more complicated. There is generally not just utter silence in the area of society where the things they say are the worst occur most (Islam); there is typically complete capitulation.

I think the reason for this is, when you strip down what the left and right actually care about. You will find what they really care about is dominance – to be within a structure that is suitable for them to exist in and suppresses those that threaten it. The difference between the left and the right is the method they use to assume dominance.

The left assumes dominance through using grievances to convince certain groups they are bad and need to give something up. If left unchecked will eradicate said groups. For the lower down that is more redistribution. For the higher ups its more feeling good (virtuous) about themselves. And for the leaders its dominance of the hierarchies that manage this system. This is achieved by emotional manipulation, then physical force. In the center it's more, “Be nice. This is all about the poorest and most vulnerable in society.” and the far-left “You're literally Hitler! Gulag!”

The right assumes dominance through asserting supremacy and outright taking it. It uses notions of superiority to push certain groups down. If left unchecked will eradicate said groups. For the lower down that is more redistribution. For the higher ups its more feeling good (superiority) about themselves. And for the leaders its dominance of the hierarchies that manage this system. This is achieved via psychological terror, then physical force. In the center it's more “Move over, chap. You've not cutting it.” and the far-right is “Get in the oven.”

Worth noting is that the right does not exist, by and large, in The West as an organised force. What we are told the right is, is a mix of people who just don't want to go more left and people who want to be left alone.

The left is feminine. It's negative expression is something like the 10% of women who throughout history who have had other men's children and knowingly have some cuck raise it in ignorance. It's not possible for this force to dominate and control through force, so it's learned to be sneaky and deceiving. The right is masculine. It's negative expression is something like a black eye. It can dominate and control through emotional coldness and physical strength, so it does.

Returning to the matter of why the left doesn't tend to go after Islam or other groups that are at odds with much of what they say they care most about. So the left is a system of dominance to serve certain people's needs and desires at the expense of others. Right now Islam or other groups present no credible threat to that system. The only group that posses a threat to them are the people who just don't want to go further left or be left alone – now known as the far-right.

This relates to Jordan Peterson's conundrum as to why the left is not seen as bad as the right, despite all their killing etc. One is because, as noted, the left have created the “right” as the designated area of hate; and two, because the left says “I'm nice. I'm all about helping the poorest in society.” and as soon as it is able to get away with it, it kills you. While the right just tells you it's going to kill you and does it.

The right is up front. It operates on a conscious desire to dominate. While the left is deceptive to itself and everyone else. It says it's all about the opposite of dominating, while the desire to dominate manifests itself from the unconscious - dominating the groups that threaten its dominance.

Returning to the original premise that leftists project their hate onto conservatives and conservatives benevolence onto leftists. Conservatives are less agreeable and harder. On the unconscious end of that is agreeableness and softness that the conservative does not want to know about; as it doesn't want to see themselves as a soft soy boy. So this is projected onto the leftist.
 

Elmore

Kingfisher
Half way thru his latest phone in, a Roosh fan who's been out in the Far East and got yellow fever. Not finished it yet, and no doubt Stefan finds a way to blame the guy's mother, but worth a listen thus far.
 

Horus

Ostrich
Gold Member
Elmore said:
Half way thru his latest phone in, a Roosh fan who's been out in the Far East and got yellow fever. Not finished it yet, and no doubt Stefan finds a way to blame the guy's mother, but worth a listen thus far.

The title of the video is "How do I stop banging Asian women?"

Why the hell would anyone want to stop?

If you're not anyway on board with Asian girls, the correct question is "How do I start banging Asian women?"
 

Elmore

Kingfisher
Horus said:
Elmore said:
Half way thru his latest phone in, a Roosh fan who's been out in the Far East and got yellow fever. Not finished it yet, and no doubt Stefan finds a way to blame the guy's mother, but worth a listen thus far.

The title of the video is "How do I stop banging Asian women?"

Why the hell would anyone want to stop?

If you're not anyway on board with Asian girls, the correct question is "How do I start banging Asian women?"


It's a clickbaity title, like a lot of Moly's vids, but is a good listen. Stefan is damn good at deconscucting people's issues. I'm never completely on board with the guy, tho i respect his intellect, but he seems bang on here. The conversation about the guy's recent hair transplant are worth listening alone
 

VNvet

Kingfisher
Stefan Molyneux is on the JQ.


He's now a Christian.


I'm slightly skeptical, but we'll see. I don't think talking about the JQ, average IQ of Somalians, and Christianity will win him any friends.
 
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