The Syria conflict thread

Foolsgo1d

Peacock
Turkey is a wildcard. Its leadership and demographic base is Muslim, but their military is not infested with them as of yet so it is quite a capable machine. Turkey is also in an ideal geographical location, has an active military and a leadership whose colours are neither on Russia or NATO's side.

Assad shouldn't breath a sigh of relief just yet with Turkey active along its border.
 

911

Peacock
Gold Member
Basically they've let that tiny strip of ISIS territory fester in order to justify US presence. Over the years, ISIS has fully collaborated in a fake war with the US/NATO/Israel, they've handed over their territories to the Kurds in a most orderly manner over the last couple of years.

Russia disrupted that plan by going all in behind Assad in 2013 and bombing the crap out of ISIS positions. They took out their oil tanker fleet in a few days, tankers which have been shipping stolen Syrian oil to Israel via Turkey with complete impunity.

The head of the Kurdish state in Iraq, Barzani, is a 2nd generation Mossad agent. The zio-globalists wanted to create a Kurdish state spanning the whole yellow area above. The Kurds are not even close to being the majority in this area, so they've been ethnically cleansing Syrians from there, particularly Christian Syrians, who have a strong presence there. Trump's withdrawal pretty much scuttled that whole project, that's why the zio-globalists are really pissed at him now.

 

Easy_C

Crow
TheMaleBrain said:
MOVSM said:
"Mad Dog"will be probably get out of there, with a necklace of ISIS teeth

Don't fall for Mattis's self-fellating bullshit.

From Reed:

The salient misconception about career military people is the apparent belief that career people spent every day shooting at the enemy or preparing to shoot at the enemy. Not even close.
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I spent four months in the 82nd Airborne Division, America’s strike force in readiness July 1969 through October 1969. There was a rule then that new lieutenants had to spend at least four months in a line unit in the U.S. before going to Vietnam.
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I chose the 82nd at West Point and, by so doing, volunteered to go to Vietnam. The idea of the four months was it looked bad for a new West Point lieutenant to arrive in Vietnam, get killed on his first day, and have it come out that he never had any stateside training other than Army schools.
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In fact, my four months in the 82nd was a waste of time—even during war time, even in America’s Strike Force in Readiness. That Strike Force stuff meant that if military trouble flared up anywhere in the world, we, the 82nd, would be the first unit sent to deal with it.
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So what did I do in July-October 1969? Army officers are poor managers in my experience. They have a one-crisis-at-a-time mindset. So when I arrived, the one crisis was a pending CMMI (Command Motor Maintenance Inspection or something like that. Such inspections ought to be done on a surprise basis, of course, but they are not.
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Two or three days after I arrived, the 82nd did its own such inspection to get ready for the CMMI which came from the Pentagon later. My platoon flunked. The battalion commander did not hold it against me. He said I had never been through one. I said, “Actually, I have, during a 30-day internship with the 101st Airborne Division in July 1966.” He said that did not count.
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I got a top notch commo platoon sergeant of one of my West Point classmates to have lunch with us two WPers and my platoon sergeant and his. I wanted the good platoon sergeant to evaluate mine. He said I had a good one.
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So I told my platoon sergeant and my men, “You guys know how to clean up this mess. Let’s get to work. I know nothing about it so I will get you guys lemonade or help in other ways that require no skill.”
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Why did I know nothing about it? We WPers who chose Signal Corps (communications branch) could choose from five schools as I recall. Which you got depended on your class rank at WP within the group who chose Signal Corps. I was high enough in the class to get the longest most sought-after school: Radio Systems, which I did. The least attractive was Battalion Communications Officer school, which was at Fort Sill, OK. Radio school was at Fort Monmouth, NJ. We got per diem at such schools—a huge amount of extra pay.
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I was never given a radio officer job. Instead, I was an infantry battalion commo officer at the 82nd and the same job in a mixed heavy artillery battalion in Vietnam. In other words, the only jobs I ever had in the Army were for officers trained at the school I did not go to.
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We got inspected again by the division again. My platoon got 97 out of 100 I believe. Bn cmdr praised me in front of the bn.
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Then came the CMMI team from the Pentagon. My platoon flunked. Why? Neither I nor my platoon sergeant had initialed the tag on the crypto room fire extinguisher indicating that we had checked it monthly.
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The Division CMMI team did not catch that. My career “good one” platoon sergeant did not catch it. I never had thought of such a thing in my life up until then. Did they teach me to check that at West Point, Signal officers School, Radio Officers School, or satellite communications officer school? Nope. Did they teach it at commo officer school at Fort Sill? Probably.
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It may have ruined my bn cmdr’s career. I do not know what else was wrong in the bn but I know that just my fire extinguisher meant the bn as a whole flunked. No efficiency report was written on me there so it had no effect on MY “career.”
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Should I say “no excuse” regarding my fire extinguisher. Sure. Perhaps I could have learned about it by reading a field manual or talking to an experienced bn commo officer or a grad of that school. I felt bad for the bn cmdr, the only WP officer I ever worked for as an officer, but I also felt, why the hell have you stayed in this FUBB organization for twenty years? You’re a good man and your career gets trashed by a misassigned lieutenant not knowing he is supposed to initial a tag on a fire extinguisher? Become a civilian. They are not perfect, but they do not do stuff like that.
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So that was a month or two. The next single priority freakout was the VIP demonstration. ROTC college kids were there for summer training. It culminated in a fire power demonstration for the ROTC kids but the real reason was that a bunch of four-star generals were going to be there to also see the demo.
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The division commander ordered all officers to go every day to the boondocks at Fort Bragg to preside over daily rehearsals of the fire-power demo. I was assigned to supervise a heavy mortar squad. They had a sergeant in charge and they all knew what they were doing, but the DC wanted an officer with every unit participating.
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We fired a mortar for familiarization at WP. Probably one hour of instruction and firing. That is all I knew about mortars. What was my actual commo platoon doing at this time? I have no idea. Probably working at the demo area sweeping pine needles out from under trees in the woods supervised by an infantry heavy weapons platoon leader.
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So all day every day, I drive out to a clearing in the woods and we do one rehearsal in the morning and one in the afternoon. The big day finally arrives. Pea soup fog. I figured, “I’ll be damned. After all this, the demo is going to be cancelled.”
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It was not. The show must go on. And so it did. I doubt anyone could see it. And the two pilots dripping napalm as part of it could not see each other. They collided in midair and were killed along with two crewmen who were in the planes as a lark.
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I told about that in detail in my article about VIP demonstration deaths. https://www.johntreed.com/…/65654787-u-s-military-personnel…
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Then I went to Vietnam. My four months at Bragg were actually a bit more useful than what most other US Army units outside of Vietnam were doing that summer. What I just described, sports fans, is probably what guys like General Flynn and General Mattis did for most of their 40+ years in the military. The military is FUBB. It is not the sort of combat or training for combat that civilians assume. It is mainly commanders telling all their subordinates to spend all time on the upcoming event that might hurt the commander’s career. These sorts of activities—whether for four months or forty years do not warrant of the reverence and respect being given them by civilians.
 

RIslander

Hummingbird
911 said:
Basically they've let that tiny strip of ISIS territory fester in order to justify US presence. Over the years, ISIS has fully collaborated in a fake war with the US/NATO/Israel, they've handed over their territories to the Kurds in a most orderly manner over the last couple of years.

Russia disrupted that plan by going all in behind Assad in 2013 and bombing the crap out of ISIS positions. They took out their oil tanker fleet in a few days, tankers which have been shipping stolen Syrian oil to Israel via Turkey with complete impunity.

The head of the Kurdish state in Iraq, Barzani, is a 2nd generation Mossad agent. The zio-globalists wanted to create a Kurdish state spanning the whole yellow area above. The Kurds are not even close to being the majority in this area, so they've been ethnically cleansing Syrians from there, particularly Christian Syrians, who have a strong presence there. Trump's withdrawal pretty much scuttled that whole project, that's why the zio-globalists are really pissed at him now.


WBTWF - Would Bang Then Withdraw From
 
SyrianGirl is very attractive and very european looking. She has exquisite white, almost rosy, skin. I bet she is what the ancient Mediteraneans looked like. Comparing her to some swarthy arab is an insult.
 

PharaohRa

Kingfisher
1) SyrianGirl is what I would call a Levantine (proto-Arab with Europid features). I am under the impression that the majority of Semitic speaking peoples looked that way before the swarm of Islam struck the Levant.
2) Trump is withdrawing from Syria and nothing the (((usual suspects))) do will stop him. Iraq is still under America's thumb. There must have been some behind the scenes deal being made where Russia keeps Syria for themselves.
3) The only way Iran is not targeted is if the neocons realize that the opportunity cost for attacking the country is too high. If Russia will not/cannot come to Iran's aide, China might because of the One Belt/One Road initiative. Also remember that China and Iran have a 2500 year old history with each other in terms of trade, cultural exchange and diplomacy.
 
What I think has happened :

1) USA has secured syrian kurdish oil as part of a deal with Russia & Assad & somehow Turkey
2) Turkey has the authorization of Putin and possibly Trump to gain more land (Tal Rifat pocket) as long as they dont touch the assad zones and stop financing the Idlib rebels.
3) Russia has been given exclusive use of syrian resources (but the kurdish part) and keeping Assad. However they won't be allowed to expand towards Manjib.

USA has given up on kurds. Russia gets the best money deal. Turkey gets "peace" by only having a weak Europe with few troops to stop him.

I believe focus of the globalists will be Yemen now.

I would be interested to know what other forumers think about the situation in North Syria. Will Turkey stay there and end up annexing the land ? They are in strong position to do this.
 

PharaohRa

Kingfisher
Polniy_Sostav said:
What I think has happened :

1) USA has secured syrian kurdish oil as part of a deal with Russia & Assad & somehow Turkey
2) Turkey has the authorization of Putin and possibly Trump to gain more land (Tal Rifat pocket) as long as they dont touch the assad zones and stop financing the Idlib rebels.
3) Russia has been given exclusive use of syrian resources (but the kurdish part) and keeping Assad. However they won't be allowed to expand towards Manjib.

USA has given up on kurds. Russia gets the best money deal. Turkey gets "peace" by only having a weak Europe with few troops to stop him.

I believe focus of the globalists will be Yemen now.

I would be interested to know what other forumers think about the situation in North Syria. Will Turkey stay there and end up annexing the land ? They are in strong position to do this.
I believe what you mentioned is somewhat accurate, but what is your theory on how Israel is being placated? The only way that I see where Israel can be made somewhat happy is if Assad permanently forfeits any claims to the Golan Heights. Otherwise, Israel will start "getting ideas" if you catch my drift.
 

TheMaleBrain

Kingfisher
Gold Member
PharaohRa said:
Polniy_Sostav said:
What I think has happened :

1) USA has secured syrian kurdish oil as part of a deal with Russia & Assad & somehow Turkey
2) Turkey has the authorization of Putin and possibly Trump to gain more land (Tal Rifat pocket) as long as they dont touch the assad zones and stop financing the Idlib rebels.
3) Russia has been given exclusive use of syrian resources (but the kurdish part) and keeping Assad. However they won't be allowed to expand towards Manjib.

USA has given up on kurds. Russia gets the best money deal. Turkey gets "peace" by only having a weak Europe with few troops to stop him.

I believe focus of the globalists will be Yemen now.

I would be interested to know what other forumers think about the situation in North Syria. Will Turkey stay there and end up annexing the land ? They are in strong position to do this.
I believe what you mentioned is somewhat accurate, but what is your theory on how Israel is being placated? The only way that I see where Israel can be made somewhat happy is if Assad permanently forfeits any claims to the Golan Heights. Otherwise, Israel will start "getting ideas" if you catch my drift.
As an Israeli, I believe this is not what will happen.
Syria is not going to forfeit any claim.
What will probably happen is that the US will provide "not yet approved" types of systems to Israel. It is a mutual interest of Israel (getting more arsenal) and the US
(selling and thus providing work places).
 
PharaohRa said:
Polniy_Sostav said:
What I think has happened :

1) USA has secured syrian kurdish oil as part of a deal with Russia & Assad & somehow Turkey
2) Turkey has the authorization of Putin and possibly Trump to gain more land (Tal Rifat pocket) as long as they dont touch the assad zones and stop financing the Idlib rebels.
3) Russia has been given exclusive use of syrian resources (but the kurdish part) and keeping Assad. However they won't be allowed to expand towards Manjib.

USA has given up on kurds. Russia gets the best money deal. Turkey gets "peace" by only having a weak Europe with few troops to stop him.

I believe focus of the globalists will be Yemen now.

I would be interested to know what other forumers think about the situation in North Syria. Will Turkey stay there and end up annexing the land ? They are in strong position to do this.
I believe what you mentioned is somewhat accurate, but what is your theory on how Israel is being placated? The only way that I see where Israel can be made somewhat happy is if Assad permanently forfeits any claims to the Golan Heights. Otherwise, Israel will start "getting ideas" if you catch my drift.
I believe the big powers are deliberately letting Lebanon in the hands of Michel Aoun and closing their eyes on Hezbollah/Iranian militias maneuvers . Assad must have played it smartly while negotiating with Russia/turkey & the US. It is still unclear to me what happens in the North though.
This simply increases the pressure on Israel , as they now feel that they are protected but can't do all what they want.
 

Once Was Not

Kingfisher
We lost two men, 3 injured, and two non-service members in that blast a couple days ago. Seems we're not leaving fast enough. Fuck these pointless deaths.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-troops-reportedly-killed-syria-suicide-attack-isis-today-2019-01-16/
The U.S. has about 2,000 troops still in Syria, though Mr. Trump has ordered a withdrawal that is expected to be completed within four months.
4 months to withdraw 2k troops? That seems ridiculously long especially with ISIS being finished. A long time for something to happen that would cancel our plans...
 

RIslander

Hummingbird
Once Was Not said:
We lost two men, 3 injured, and two non-service members in that blast a couple days ago. Seems we're not leaving fast enough. Fuck these pointless deaths.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-troops-reportedly-killed-syria-suicide-attack-isis-today-2019-01-16/
The U.S. has about 2,000 troops still in Syria, though Mr. Trump has ordered a withdrawal that is expected to be completed within four months.
4 months to withdraw 2k troops? That seems ridiculously long especially with ISIS being finished. A long time for something to happen that would cancel our plans...
There isn't a snowballs chance in hell this wasn't a false flag attack. Deep State, Saudis, Isrealis... Who knows which conducted it but this reeks of treachery. Why is it that only a handful (single digits) of US servicemen have died in Syria then as they announce withdrawal, then this? Are Americans this fucking stupid they fall for this bullshit?
 

Foolsgo1d

Peacock
RIslander said:
Once Was Not said:
We lost two men, 3 injured, and two non-service members in that blast a couple days ago. Seems we're not leaving fast enough. Fuck these pointless deaths.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-troops-reportedly-killed-syria-suicide-attack-isis-today-2019-01-16/
The U.S. has about 2,000 troops still in Syria, though Mr. Trump has ordered a withdrawal that is expected to be completed within four months.
4 months to withdraw 2k troops? That seems ridiculously long especially with ISIS being finished. A long time for something to happen that would cancel our plans...
There isn't a snowballs chance in hell this wasn't a false flag attack. Deep State, Saudis, Isrealis... Who knows which conducted it but this reeks of treachery. Why is it that only a handful (single digits) of US servicemen have died in Syria then as they announce withdrawal, then this? Are Americans this fucking stupid they fall for this bullshit?
At this point it isn't just Americans being fooled easily but politicians and the military do not ask the people for their opinion on these matters citing "intelligence sources".

If we can smell BS then they wont confirm it but they will run a propaganda campaign. The first mention of pull out from Syria was met with MSM headlines citing Al'Qaeda being a massive threat still and Iran being a problem.

Smoke and mirrors.
 
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