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<blockquote data-quote="Johnnyvee" data-source="post: 1476477" data-attributes="member: 13195">I`m just pointing out that it`s not something that can be rationally debated. I have witnessed this debate a million times over it seems;a-Had to come from the first mover/Godb-You are interjecting a God, ad hoca-But we know that God exists from the scriptures and the prophet`sb-Those are just man made fantasies, a consequence of the evolution of the brain, all men have God`s, and they are all different God`s, they can`t all be right, and they are all probably all wrong etc.a-But who else than God could create the universeb-Just because we don`t understand the origin of the universe, it doesn`t mean that there isn`t a rational explanationI`m not picking sides here, but I`m just saying that there is no convincing people based on rationality. You have to take things of faith alone.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Johnnyvee, post: 1476477, member: 13195"] I`m just pointing out that it`s not something that can be rationally debated. I have witnessed this debate a million times over it seems; a-Had to come from the first mover/God b-You are interjecting a God, ad hoc a-But we know that God exists from the scriptures and the prophet`s b-Those are just man made fantasies, a consequence of the evolution of the brain, all men have God`s, and they are all different God`s, they can`t all be right, and they are all probably all wrong etc. a-But who else than God could create the universe b-Just because we don`t understand the origin of the universe, it doesn`t mean that there isn`t a rational explanation I`m not picking sides here, but I`m just saying that there is no convincing people based on rationality. You have to take things of faith alone. [/QUOTE]

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