The Tommy Robinson thread

911

Peacock
Gold Member
When you're getting literally millions of pounds from (((foreign sources))), you can afford to grandstand about donating your parliamentary salary. Tommy Robinson is one of the richest professional political activists in the world today.

Turns out one of Tommy's biggest financiers is a billionaire alien called Robert Shillman, you cannot make this stuff up.
 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
They're losing their grip one way or another.

They can give Tommy all the money they want but it's not going to stop native Britons wondering what the real difference is between their daughters being raped by a FOB Pakistani or a 2nd generation "citizen of Pakistani origin".

Deus Vult is bigger than Tommy. He's just a roadhouse on the journey there.
 

911

Peacock
Gold Member
It does stop a lot of native Britons from wondering who is bringing those migrants in and for what purpose. Tommy will never go there.

 

Teedub

Crow
Gold Member
Haha 911 hates Tommy, we've been back and forth for over a year. Jarred Taylor thinks Jews are white, should be leading thinkers in his hypothetical ethnostate, thinks they're as European as him... yet nobody goes after him.

If you grew up where Tommy did, seeing the problems on a ground level Islam causes... you'd better understand his position towards Jews etc. But, we've been back and forth for about 20 pages, so agree to disagree.
 

911

Peacock
Gold Member
No problem Teedub, I think you'll come around, eventually, when you start to dig deeper into the real problem with islam in Europe.

I think TR is a paid shill and a deceiver, so it's hard for me to stay neutral on this. Obviously I get that his supporters come from a good place.

For now, I would just advise guys who aren't flush against supporting him financially, as he's already quite well off, with a million quid home.

 

Teedub

Crow
Gold Member
For what he's been through, as Simeon says, I don't begrudge him a nice house. I do think he asks for too much money, but on the other hand, he shouldn't have to use his own funds for everything he does. Worth remembering he was doing well before his political career due to his tanning salon and property businesses. He isn't getting "millions" from any insidious organisations as you insinuated, his funding sources were well documented by the Guardian. Yes, there were a lot of Jewish donors, admittedly, though much of his funding is for his huge legal costs. Moreover, he's made £600,000 in donations in 3 years, and has sold hundreds of thousands of copies of his book. "Paid shills" don't come out of prison looking like this:

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When I think of paid shills, people more like Donald Trump come to mind.

Collett thinks he's too friendly with 'them' too, but he understands the good he does.

Anyway, him winning the MEP vote would be a bigger fright for the MSM and establishment than Trump or Brexit were. The majority of middle class and non-white people in Britain think he's as far right as Collett etc. It was only after the Oxford Union speech, and his prison treatment that he started to get some normie sympathy, so for him to win it's going to need nearly all the white working class to get out and vote. I remember going to an EDL rally in the very early 2010s, there were a few neo-nazis there, quite crazy seeing someone with a swasika tattoo in real life. I completely understand why he distanced himself from that stuff.
 

Foolsgo1d

Peacock
He is the MEP for my area and I will vote for him.

I've already triggered a few people saying his name but I truly believe the communist and Islamic surge in this country is too late to stop from causing serious damage and eventual unstoppable decay.

This shit has not just happened overnight. Islam is a bigger longterm threat than these commie pukes because they do not have the demographs on their side and they need a top-down system that visits violence upon its opponents.

Islam is a bottom-up-top-down system that covers all angles and has the demographs to boot.

The protests against fag education in Birmingham has already spread to most Muslim areas, with the MSM and government trying their best to cover it up and deny. deny and mis-direct.

The people protesting are in Muslim garb, they're brown (Pakistanis) and they're not being opposed. Bad optics! All of this is happening and they're not 10% of the English population. In Europe the same shit is happening and the overall European Muslim percentage is not 10%.

So whilst I will vote for Tommy/Stephen I will be under no illusions that the coming decades are going to see something much more than clown world.
 

Teedub

Crow
Gold Member
When flyers come through your door, you know shit's getting real. Apologies for bad quality image, had sizing issues.
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I was talking to my parents earlier, and brought up the election, they were both like "Tommy's leaflet is going straight in the bin". They're Spectator-reading conservatives, but educated boomers like that are simply mortally terrified of anyone/anything remotely 'far right', because of the NF in the 70s. Doesn't matter how sympathetic some of their favourite journalists are to TR, it simply "isn't done" for middle class people of that age.
 

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Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
^That's how you know you're dealing with pure brainwashing.

"Straight in the bin" says "I must not even look at the bad man, so sayeth the priests of my orthodoxy."

I hate the Greens (for example) as much as anyone but I don't dedicate mental energy to thinking about what I'm going to do with their political literature when it arrives in my mail box.
 

911

Peacock
Gold Member
Until you understand that the people behind the hiring of the imports are the same people that are funding Tommy Robinson, you're only fulfilling their agenda.
 

Teedub

Crow
Gold Member
911, if you know of a single better MEP candidate for the North West of England than TR, please do name one. I don't care if a few American Jews have thrown him a few thousand quid for his legal fees, neither do most of the people in this thread who, you know, actually live in Britain with Pakistani grooming gangs and drug dealers.

If Tommy was so well connected, why couldn't his (((paymasters))) keep him protected and out of prison? Why couldn't they stop him getting ALL his front teeth knocked out by Muslims? As I said, would any of you you do what he does for $10,000 a month (what he allegedly received from Robert Shillman [lol] for a period of time)?

#VoteTommy

But, I'll repost something for you to digest. Please read it in full 911, you at least owe me that mate:

Teedub said:
Is Tommy a Zionist? Yes, in as much that he thinks Israel is a better country than all the Muslim ones in the Middle East. As a Westerner, he'd be correct in that assessment. Also, he thinks Jews are infinitely preferable to live amongst than Muslims — as evidenced by his anecdotes, he'd be right. Tommy doesn't think in broad, global terms. He thinks locally, and he sees that Jews just go about their business owning law firms, meanwhile the Muslims "smash up" synagogues, behead soldiers in London, systematically rape non-Muslim girls (particularly white girls), drug them (happened to his own cousin) and blow kids up at pop concerts. Can you not see why he views the world in the manner he does? If you walked down to a EDL, FLA etc march and asked 100 people "Who do you think is a bigger threat to the UK, Muslims or Jews?", I reckon all 100 would say something like "Jews are alright mate, what you on about?".

Most of Tommy's detractors are American, and as such don't understand politics in the UK and Europe. Britain doesn't have a revolving door of Israel fanatic Zionists in high positions of influence in full public view like America. It doesn't have public figures like Ben Shapiro. In fact, many of our left wing politicians are openly hostile to Israel, like to push sanctions and trade embargoes etc. This would never happen in America. Tommy sees this anti-Israel rhetoric as pandering to Islam. It's easy to see why he thinks this. It's why I said on another thread that British/European alt-righters tend to view him favourably, whereas their American counterparts are usually the first to demonise him. They understand both the politics and the personal circumstances that have shaped Tommy's worldview far better than Greg Johnson et al can. I can understand why Americans are suspicious of Jews to the degree they are, but they also need to understand why Brits and Europeans simply aren't—with the exception of people like Mark Collet, Millennial Woes etc... incidentally all fans of Tommy, as mentioned previously. Critical of his pro-Israel stance, yes, but recognising all the good he does. I've been over this so many times to people like 911, I'm not going to repeat myself.

Head of Generation Identity, Martin Sellner (Tommy's friend by the way even though he's an ethnonationalist - Sellner thinks small amounts of non-white immigration is fine), was filmed on secret camera by lefties saying talking about Jews was bad strategically. I can't remember the exact phrasing, so the documentary is here if you want to find the bit I'm talking about yourself. In fact, I'll quote him directly. Go to 45 minutes in.

I completely understand in the 1920's people saying there is a Jewish question...compared to Islamic immigration today...the American alt right, the American right is again dominated by this Jewish question in a complete misunderstanding of the time. A complete strategical and theoretical failure in my opinion.

Sellner later talks about being involved in anti-Jew neo-nazi parties in his youth, and how the holocaust happened but has been exaggerated and exploited. So, he's aware on some level in a way Tommy doesn't care about. In fact, Jared Taylor isn't on board with the JQ, he thinks Jews are white and should definitely be allowed live in his hypothetical ethnostate. Nobody would accuse someone like him of being a shill. He's dedicated his entire life to "white wellbeing" and has been called a Nazi more times than I've had hot dinners.

Back to Tommy...

The whole "I'm a Zionist who wears Mossad T-Shirts' thing is in large part a joke, to wind up people who slander him, as he discusses in that clip regarding Nick Griffin. Tommy's friendship group has lots of non-whites, so of course he's not on board with the BNP, National Front... it would be betraying his mates. He doesn't want whites to be a minority, but he doesn't want to kick black people out of the country. He probably privately agrees with mass forced deportations of Pakistani Muslims though. Nothing in that video is surprising to people who follow Tommy, nothing in it isn't something he hasn't been completely open and honest about. He's incredibly transparent about exactly what he thinks on most matters. Nothing in that video seems 'off' to me, he's saying the truth and what he genuinely believes: in his words, "to end Islam".

Tommy doesn't need me, he speaks for himself, that is obvious from any of his interviews or debates available online. His family have become targets, no would risk that just for money. Nobody here would do what he does, it takes balls of steel to go to prison and deal with potential acid attacks etc... as I showed in the video I put up a week or so ago a few posts up where he's interviewed in jail. Tommy has stated that he does what he does because he loves his children and doesn't want them growing up in a Islamic country where rape and murder by Muslims against non-believers would be the norm. Also, there is not one piece of solid evidence that Tommy works for, or is paid by, any explicitly Zionist organisations—Rebel media certainly doesn't count. But even if there was evidence, it doesn't discredit what he's done.[Since this post, there is evidence, such as that Shillman guy]

If anything, many people on this board are much more intellectually disingenuous than Tommy when they call non-white RVFers "brothers", then the next minute they're larping on about white ethnostates. Ethnostates that the 14/88 youtube crew wouldn't let Roosh, the proprietor of this very fucking forum, into when you look at the things they say about him in comments sections where he's a featured guest. Despite the fact their heroes in the NSDAP thought of Persians as "honorary aryans", and that "Iran" comes from the word aryan. It's laughable.

But back to my point about intellectual dishonesty, that's why lots of black members have quit this place. I know this because one or two of them have spoken to me off-forum about their feelings.

In general there's four sets of people when it comes to the JQ in Europe right wing circles.

1. People who don't know or care about it. (Tommy, Gerard Batten, Paul Golding, Anne-Marie Waters)

2. People who are aware but think it's down to a multitude of factors and not a grand conspiracy: ashkenazi high IQ, in-group economics/loyalty borne from historical persecution, being forced into moneylending professions in centuries past etc. (Jordan Peterson, Sargon, Jack Buckby, Milo Y, possibly myself)

3. People who are aware, think it's a conspiracy in either a small or large degree but opt not to talk about it publicly or think it's strategically a bad idea. (Sellner, Paul Joseph Watson [yep, check his very early videos], various far right political figures, possibly myself)

4. People who are fully on board and talk about it openly. (Griffin, Collett, Jean-Marie Le Pen, Golden Dawn etc).

The right will never win anything if group 4 constantly attack the other 3 (and likewise, if all the others constantly counter signal group 4). That said though, I understand when people like Tommy and the civnats disagree with Collett on deporting black people back to Africa, as obviously as I stated above, it would mean deporting their friends, and in my case (though not blacks) extended family. I hope that clarifies things a bit for you, and I apologise for my somewhat rambling and unstructured reply.

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Teedub said:
I'll repost something gework said many pages ago, it's relevant:

I'm not a fan of the controlled opposition narratives. You need a lot of evidence to pin those theories down. Most controlled opposition theories are very thin and often based on little more than if a small company owned by non-practicing Jews advertise with you. Other than mainstream people, the only figure I'm really suspicious of being a plant is Glenn Beck, but it could just be he is insane. Spencer may be controlled. I don't really care. I don't spend any time thinking about him, or ANTIFA, or any other fringe irrelevant group.

On Robinson, as mentioned, he is working class. I don't know how it is elsewhere, but in the UK the working class has virtually zero representation anywhere in society. They've all been purged from the anti-Labour party, virtually nothing in the media, the schools are mainly run by white middle-class women. All the affirmative action that used to be afforded them (which wasn't much) has been done away with in favour of Labour's radical Muslims and multiclturalism. I really can't see how anti-Labour have held on to so much of the working class vote. But even in the last election there was about a 7% decline in working class support for Labour with a democratic socialist leader who rolled back some of the metro-Blairism. If you look at places like Stoke, they used to get 70-80% for Labour with very good turn outs. Now the turnout has waned to close to 50% and the fake Conservative Party managed to claw a seat there for the first time in 100 years. It's not hard to find the utter contempt the left bourgeois have for the working class. Check out the Tommy Robinson Twitter parody. That's how the bourgeois talk about the working class when the mics are off. They could roll out the same contempt for the medieval religious opinions of many Muslims, FGM, immigrant crime and violence, but that doesn't do anything for them.

I'm really pleased to see a working class guy fighting against all the odds, not holding back who is now at the point where the mainstream upper-middle class have no idea how to deal with him.

On the topic of Jews. In my work I provide assistance to several entities relating to fraud and terrorism: a few big marketing companies, two of the top ten most traversed airports and a body that deals with vetting immigrants etc. The latter body is all-Jewish. My contact is one or two clicks away from Netenyahu, Trump, Geert Wilders, Douglas Murray... They are a big critic of the EU approach to Islam and says the borders to Europe need to be shut, mosques regulated and a very hard line needs to be taken with Islam. They're pretty much in lock step with the likes of Douglas Murray or Tommy Robinson. They think that European countries should act as Israel does. Some Jews think like this, many don't and as such are paving the way to their own destruction. This is the same position as Ezra Levant: pro-Western civilisation and pro-Israel as a Jewish state.
 

Teedub

Crow
Gold Member
but...but... Donald Trump is the savior!

Remember that? Best of a bad situation.

You're all purity-spiralling with no concern as to how real-life politics works.
 

Elmore

Kingfisher
Tommy is clearly shilling for far cleverer and more duplicitous people than he is. Still he does reach a lot of normies, and it's quite easy to sit in EE or wherever else and bang on about Zionism and Kalergi being the root causes, but if your niece is getting nonced by Pakis, then your first priority isn't going to be watching videos about the Rothschild banking empire. Fact is that the exponentially growing threat of Muslims to normal white working class Brits daily lives, is going to mean a lot of 'sympton-not-the-cause' issues.

As grubby as i think Tommy probably is with it all, i still can't help but like him, and wish him well. He is a gateway to a lot of normal lads who are just sick of the shit they see happening in their country. From that they might lead to a clearer picture, they might not, but still, Tommy is providing a rallying focus for that.
 

Coja Petrus Uscan

Hummingbird
Orthodox Inquirer
Gold Member
On the topic of Jews. My contact is one or two clicks away from Netenyahu, Trump, Geert Wilders, Douglas Murray... They are a big critic of the EU approach to Islam and says the borders to Europe need to be shut, mosques regulated and a very hard line needs to be taken with Islam.

I'll add this guy is a member of The Gatestone Institute, which is a hive for Jews who are very critical of Islam. It regularly posts article that are either directly or indirectly for limiting immigration etc. It could be the case that the Gatestone Institute is part of some divided and conquer strategy. But I am not keen on believing such things. It is too much for me to believe that society is riddled with organisations stacked with Jews that are playing all sides. If that is the case there would be some evidence of that spilling out, beyond Jewish funding trails. Just as there has been evidence spilling out in relation to the US government's monitoring+ of UFOs. If it's true there will be some circumstantial evidence. If there is I am happy to be presented with it.

In the UK, according to Lord Ashcroft Polls 53% of Jews voted to leave the EU. The highest of polled religions and slightly higher than the actual vote. Is this another conspiracy? Or is it more likely Jews are closer to what native British people than the other polled religions, like muslims who voted for leave 30% according to the same poll.

@911. Can you lay out your argument? Or post in something you've written before. I can guess roughly what you're getting at. I'm guessing that the Jews are playing The West and Islam off against each other?
 
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