The Trump Wall(tm). Predictions.

What form will Trump's promised wall take?

  • No action at all. Why have you forsaken us?

    Votes: 31 10.2%
  • No wall, but enhanced border patrol absent the kid-gloves

    Votes: 48 15.8%
  • Chain link fence topped with razor wire.

    Votes: 39 12.8%
  • Double]-height hesco bastion barriers or similar.

    Votes: 64 21.1%
  • Reinforced concrete 50 feet thick, 100 feet tall, patrolled by Ryan-eating bears.

    Votes: 122 40.1%

  • Total voters
    304

stugatz

Kingfisher
IS there a wall in Southern Mexico?

The articles that try debunking this usually show the Israel/Jordan pictures and then say that the picture is fake - therefore there is no wall. They go into it no further than that.
 

MOVSM

Pelican
Gold Member
The request for proposal is posted on FedBizOpps.gov for Solid Concrete Border Wall.

If any of you are construction company owners, here is your chance.



Trump Admin Releases Details About Border Wall


The southern border wall will be physically imposing, hard to penetrate, and aesthetically pleasing from the northern side. These are just a few of the requirements, according to a solicitation for bids the federal government posted online Friday.

President Donald Trump has ordered construction for the border wall and his recent budget proposal to Congress includes $2.6 billion toward the construction of the wall. The president has previously estimated that the endeavor will cost $12 billion in total. Responses to the Customs and Border Protection solicitation for bids are due on March 29. Contract winners will be based on sample walls built in San Diego.

Below are the requirements for the “big, beautiful wall.”

The wall must be reinforced concrete and “physically imposing in height.” The government is aiming for a 30-foot high wall, and heights of 18 feet are acceptable, but nothing less.
It should not be possible for someone to climb the wall unassisted, and it should include “anti-climb topping features.”
The wall should also prevent digging or tunneling for at least six feet below ground.
It should be able to withstand a minimum of one hour of people attempting to breach a foot wide hole using their fist, sledgehammer, pick axe etc.
When it comes to the creation of a hole larger than one foot in diameter, the first 12 feet of the wall should withstand these efforts for up to four hours.
The north side of the wall, which faces the U.S., “shall be aesthetically pleasing in color, anti-climb texture, etc., to be consistent with general surrounding environment.” In addition, “the wall fittings and fixtures shall be secured on the north side of the wall to shield from external attack.”
Trump called for the wall to have a “big, beautiful door,” and the posting calls for the wall design to accommodate large mechanized vehicle sliding gates.
 

Handsome Creepy Eel

Owl
Gold Member
I love the "big beautiful door" part. If you're entering the country legally, you'll feel like you're getting into a nice, wealthy place and that you ought to appreciate the privilege.
 

ElFlaco

Kingfisher
Gold Member
stugatz said:
IS there a wall in Southern Mexico?
According to Wikipedia, there's a fence near border checkpoints and in heavily populated areas. Other than that, nothing but natural boundaries (rivers).

Mexico also has a lesser known border with Belize.
 

JayMillz

Hummingbird
With healthcare off the table now maybe the attention can turn to illegal immigration. Thus far, it seems like the administration is moving in the right direction on this. Wall or no wall, enforcing the law is a good start.
 

MOVSM

Pelican
Gold Member
Who will build the wall? The Mexicans!

These Hispanic contractors offered to build Trump’s border wall. Then the death threats began

They’ve received death threats and had profanities and rocks hurled at them. One company’s tractor was stolen.

...

“A lot of people are saying, ‘You’re Latino. How can you build a wall to keep other Latinos out?’ We had to do a lot of soul-searching before we jumped into this because it’s obviously a very, very controversial topic,” said Michael Evangelista-Ysasaga, chief executive and owner of the Penna Group, a firm based in Fort Worth.

Evangelista-Ysasaga, whose grandparents emigrated from Mexico, said he fielded five death threats one morning alone this week from “random people calling into the office and just screaming.”

...

Of the approximately 200 companies that have responded to the federal government’s two requests for proposals for a solid concrete border wall and another wall design, at least 32 companies are Hispanic-owned, according to a Washington Post analysis of a federal database. The deadline for proposals has been extended to April 4.
 

Gmac

Peacock
Gold Member
Breaking/Genius: Border wall to be paid for by a 2% tax on immigrants sending money abroad...

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/mar/30/mike-rogers-pushes-border-wall-bill/

Border wall funding solved: GOP pushes for 2% fee on money immigrants send home



A group of House Republicans on Thursday introduced the first major bill to fund President Trump’s border wall, saying the government could collect billions of dollars by imposing a 2 percent fee on all the money Mexicans and other immigrants send back home.

Estimates vary, but remittances from those in the U.S. to their relatives back home could top $130 billion a year. A 2 percent tax could net more than $2 billion a year if it applied to all money regardless of who’s sending it.

“This bill is simple — anyone who sends their money to countries that benefit from our porous borders and illegal immigration should be responsible for providing some of the funds needed to complete the wall,” Rep. Mike Rogers, Alabama Republican, said in a statement. “This bill keeps money in the American economy, and most importantly, it creates a funding stream to build the wall.”

Mr. Rogers and Rep. Lou Barletta of Pennsylvania are leading the effort.

Mr. Trump has vowed to make Mexico foot the bill for his border wall, but Mexican authorities have said they won’t play along.

Left without a funding source, the president has said American taxpayers will pick up the tab for now, and he’ll look for ways to soak Mexico in the long run.
 

JayMillz

Hummingbird
One of President Trump's boldest, most ambitious proposals on the campaign trail was to build a wall along the Southern border and get Mexico to pay for it. Amid the tumult of Trump's first few months in office, the border wall hasn't gotten as much attention as some other things. But new legislation has been introduced in Congress to help fund it.

It's called the Border Wall Funding Act of 2017, introduced on March 30 by Rep. Mike Rogers, R-Ala.

And it would put a 2 percent tax on all person-to-person wire transfers to Mexico, the rest of Latin America and the Caribbean.

It's not the only bill targeting remittances. An earlier proposal in the Senate, which didn't advance out of committee, would have placed a 7 percent "fine" on remittances unless the sender can prove he or she is in the U.S. legally.

http://www.npr.org/sections/goatsan...ign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20170525
 

JayMillz

Hummingbird
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/16/...mpaign-promise.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur

Trump Will Allow ‘Dreamers’ to Stay in U.S., Reversing Campaign Promise

The Department of Homeland Security announced late Thursday night that it would continue the Obama-era program intended to protect those immigrants from deportation and provide them work permits so they can find legal employment.

A fact sheet posted on the department’s website says immigrants enrolled in the 2012 program, known as Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, “will continue to be eligible” to renew every two years and notes that “no work permits will be terminated prior to their current expiration dates.”

Immigration rights activists, who have fiercely battled Mr. Trump’s travel ban and increased enforcement of other immigration laws, hailed the decision.
 

Fast Eddie

Pelican
Gold Member
JayMillz said:
Immigration rights activists, who have fiercely battled Mr. Trump’s travel ban and increased enforcement of other immigration laws, hailed the decision.
Well, as long as those folks are happy I'm sure Trump is happy. He certainly doesn't seem to care about what the people who actually voted for him think.

Trump might have lied about many of his campaign promises but when he said we'd get tired of "winning" he was certainly telling the truth.
 

Samseau

Owl
Gold Member
JayMillz said:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/16/...mpaign-promise.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur

Trump Will Allow ‘Dreamers’ to Stay in U.S., Reversing Campaign Promise

The Department of Homeland Security announced late Thursday night that it would continue the Obama-era program intended to protect those immigrants from deportation and provide them work permits so they can find legal employment.

A fact sheet posted on the department’s website says immigrants enrolled in the 2012 program, known as Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, “will continue to be eligible” to renew every two years and notes that “no work permits will be terminated prior to their current expiration dates.”

Immigration rights activists, who have fiercely battled Mr. Trump’s travel ban and increased enforcement of other immigration laws, hailed the decision.
Fake news.

Nothing new is presented. All this article does is elaborate on the existing policy Trump has had since the election.

So far it looks like Trump lets them stay, but no citizenship. They won't get to vote but they'll get to work and pay taxes. Although I do not like the idea of two-tiered citizenship, no one asked their parents to come.
 
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