The Trump Wall(tm). Predictions.

What form will Trump's promised wall take?

  • No action at all. Why have you forsaken us?

    Votes: 31 10.2%
  • No wall, but enhanced border patrol absent the kid-gloves

    Votes: 48 15.8%
  • Chain link fence topped with razor wire.

    Votes: 39 12.8%
  • Double]-height hesco bastion barriers or similar.

    Votes: 64 21.1%
  • Reinforced concrete 50 feet thick, 100 feet tall, patrolled by Ryan-eating bears.

    Votes: 122 40.1%

  • Total voters
    304

redpillage

Ostrich
Gold Member
Democrats fail to block Trump border wall in defense bill

House Democrats tried but failed Friday to block spending on President Trump's proposed border wall under the annual defense bill.

Rep. Michelle Lujan Grisham, D-N.M., pressed for a House floor vote that would have added a prohibition on any Pentagon spending to build the wall. She did so at the end of debate on the National Defense Authorization Act, and her move was a protest against the House GOP decision to strip language out of that bill that would have prevented the NDAA from authorizing work on the border wall.

"The only way this body can guarantee that Trump cannot use Department of Defense funds to construct the border wall is to put that prohibition in the bill explicitly," Grisham said on the floor.

But Republicans thwarted the move, and Rep. Mac Thornberry, R-Texas, received a standing ovation for his opposition speech that said the House needs to quickly approve the fiscal 2018 defense authorization bill. The NDAA was passed by the chamber moments later, in a vote that saw most Democrats support it.

"We could spend all day and night arguing provisions that prohibit what is not in the bill. There's nothing in this bill that authorizes a border wall," Thornberry said. "The focus of the bill is the men and women who serve our nation in the military and the national security of the United States."

Thornberry, the Armed Services Committee chairman, also argued against Democrat attempts to add the controversial amendment to the $696 billion annual policy bill while it was being heard in the committee last month.

Grisham argued that Defense Secretary Jim Mattis has the authority to shift existing money to begin construction of the wall, which was a top campaign promise of Trump.
:gtfo:
 

MOVSM

Pelican
Gold Member
What's going on? WHO is supporting WHAT?

Hell Freezes Over: RINO Paul Ryan Releases Video Promoting POTUS’s Border Wall (VIDEO)


Also: U.S. eases environment laws for Mexico border wall near San Diego

The U.S. Department of Homeland Security said on Tuesday it would waive environmental and related laws in order to expedite building security-related barriers and roads along the nation’s border with Mexico near San Diego.

The projects would focus on about 15 miles (24 km) of the frontier extending eastward from the Pacific Ocean as part of President Donald Trump’s planned wall between the United States and Mexico, the DHS said in a statement. It said the area is one of the busiest U.S. border sections.

“The sector remains an area of high illegal entry for which there is an immediate need to improve current infrastructure and construct additional border barriers and roads,” the DHS said.

The department will oversee the installation of extra barriers, roads, lights, cameras and sensors on the border under the authority of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act (IIRIRA) of 1996, the statement said.

The act grants the secretary of homeland security authority to waive requirements to comply with various laws to ensure the building of barriers and roads, while being mindful of cultural and environmental impacts, the statement said.
 

911

Peacock
Gold Member
Paul Ryan is a complete cuck, but a smart politician. He knows that if he cucks too hard, he could lose to a MAGA challenger or at least take a lot of flak from his constituency.
 
Mark Meadows: Wall May Have to Wait to Avoid Government Shutdown


Rep. Mark Meadows (R-NC) is signaling that members of the House Freedom Caucus, which he chairs, are willing to pass a Continuing Resolution to temporarily fund the federal government and avoid a government shutdown, even if it does not include funding for a wall on the U.S. southern border.

“In talking to a number of my members, if there was a vote for a continuing resolution next week that did not include border wall funding, the majority of those members would be supportive of that,” Rep. Mark Meadows, R-N.C., told ABC News‘ Jonathan Karl and Rick Klein on the “Powerhouse Politics” podcast.

This position is at odds with President Trump and the message Meadows sent during an interview with Breitbart News Sunday on SiriusXM 125 the Patriot Channel.

“Last week, at a campaign rally in Phoenix, Trump suggested that he would allow a shutdown to occur if Congress does not include appropriations for his signature campaign promise as part of a funding measure,” ABC reported.

“Believe me, if we have to close down our government, we’re building that wall,” said Trump.

Meadows told Breitbart that it is imperative there be funding for President Donald Trump’s planned wall along the U.S. border with Mexico.

“It always helps to do what you said you were going to do and the president talked about the wall,” Meadows said. “He campaigned on that. Many of us supported that particular position — myself included. And so we’ve got that in the spending bill that’s coming out of the House. So the problem is going to be with the Senate and if we end up with a CR [continuing resolution] I don’t see a way that there is going to be money for a wall and that’s going to be problematic. So the Democrats are going to have to come to grips with fact that the president is serious with this and start negotiating in good faith. Right now they’re saying that’s there’s no amount of money that they would put for one of their special projects in order to fund the wall. I find that to be really not negotiating in good faith — but it’s a position that very, very difficult to hold. Everybody knows that from a national security standpoint we need to secure our southern border. And I’m in support of the president in that.”

Now, Meadows is supportive of passing a CR to fund the government with no wall funding.

“Meadows said he prefers a solution where government funding will continue through the rest of 2017, with a possible showdown involving the border wall not coming until December or January,” ABC reported. “He cited, in part, the need to keep government operations running in the wake of Hurricane Harvey.”

“Next week, in September, we are encouraging our leadership to go ahead and put a bill on the House floor and let us vote for that,” Meadows said. “Most of the conservatives that I talked to are willing to … vote for a continuing resolution that just basically would not have wall funding in it — would continue the current stream of money that keeps the government operational while we work through and negotiate on the appropriations bill.”

“While Meadows and other conservatives, including Texas Sens. Ted Cruz and John Cornyn, voted against disaster relief packages after Hurricane Sandy slammed the Northeast in 2012, the North Carolina congressman said that those positions were in opposition to what those members considered to be unnecessary spending included in the legislation,” ABC reported. “He offered his support for Harvey relief after Congress can gauge the ‘full amount of the damage’ in the Gulf Coast.”

“When we have disaster relief a lot of times it becomes a vehicle for special spending,” Meadows said, adding, “As long as we keep the emergency relief really to support the people in need, whether they be in New York or Texas, I think you’ll find plenty of conservative support and certainly my support.”
http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...ay-have-to-wait-to-avoid-government-shutdown/
 

Samseau

Owl
Gold Member
“Meadows said he prefers a solution where government funding will continue through the rest of 2017, with a possible showdown involving the border wall not coming until December or January,” ABC reported. “He cited, in part, the need to keep government operations running in the wake of Hurricane Harvey.”
:tard: Such BS, they can't just pass a separate bill for Harvey funding and debt allocation?

Love this "Freedom Caucus," they are really good at doing everything except being conservatives. They voted against the Obamacare repeal, they voted against immigration crackdowns, they vote against the wall, but they'll vote for more wars, more debt, and more job-killing free trade. Straight cucks all day long, boy o boy did the TeaParty movement get hijacked bad.
 
White House weighing a tax on remittances to Mexico to fund border wall

President Trump is mulling a tax on cash transfers between immigrants in the U.S. and their relatives in Mexico as a way to fund his promised border wall without forcing American taxpayers to open their wallets, according to sources familiar with the proposal.

Trump first floated the idea of taxing or halting person-to-person wire transfers, known as remittances, during his bid for the White House. A two-page memo released by his campaign last April described a plan "to compel Mexico to pay for the wall" by preventing immigrants from wiring money outside of the U.S. unless they can prove their legal status to law enforcement authorities.

Because the Mexican economy has become so dependent on wages sent home by migrant workers, which surpassed oil revenues as its leading source of foreign income in 2015, Trump said he could convince the country's leaders to make a "one-time payment of $5-10 billion" toward his border wall by threatening to stop the annual flow of billions of dollars from the U.S. to Mexico in the form of cash transfers.

In 2016, Mexican immigrants living in the U.S. sent $27 billion to family members and friends in their native country.
http://archive.is/MhAiE
 

floor7

Woodpecker
Any changes to predictions on this topic in light of DJT mentioning he won't push for a shutdown before the midterms over wall funding?

I voted for the no wall, enhanced border patrol option and posted:

"Inbetween option 2 and 3 with some symbolic sections of 4 - in totality it will not cover the whole border. Ground break for project 9 months from now. It will not get completed though unless he wins a 2nd term.
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Looks like that was too aggressive of a prediction.
 

demolition

Woodpecker
floor7 said:
Any changes to predictions on this topic in light of DJT mentioning he won't push for a shutdown before the midterms over wall funding?

I voted for the no wall, enhanced border patrol option and posted:

"Inbetween option 2 and 3 with some symbolic sections of 4 - in totality it will not cover the whole border. Ground break for project 9 months from now. It will not get completed though unless he wins a 2nd term.
"

Looks like that was too aggressive of a prediction.
At this point I feel that a wall is a 2020 campaign issue. Trump's first term as president seems to have been fully taken over by fighting off the deep state's coup attempt. The 2016 midterm elections are a referendum on the future of the country. This way to Democrats, deep state overthrow of the American populace, diversity, and death. The other way to Republicans, realism, rebuilding the country, and restoration of values and principles of America.
 

MOVSM

Pelican
Gold Member
Army Corps of Engineers. They already administer a lot of land. This won't be a difficult task for them.

Trump says he could use the MILITARY to build his wall if Congress won't fund it through Homeland Security's budget - and he won't rule out another government shutdown to get his way

DailyMail.com asked the president on Air Force One if he was considering using the Army Corps of Engineers to build his border wall
Congress has been stingy with a Homeland Security budget for the project, providing barely $3 billion and leaving another $25 billion unfunded
Pentagon officials say the Corps of Engineers is suited to perform the work and Trump has boasted about budget increases he has won for the Pentagon
Trump says: 'We have two options: We have military, we have homeland security'
He also said he won't take a government shutdown off the table if Democrats on Capitol Hill keep playing hardball because of immigration politics
He believes a shutdown would be strategically and politically smart
But many Republican lawmakers are counseling patience because they fear being blamed for a shutdown in the final month of re-elecion campaigns
 
Player_1337 said:
Handsome Creepy Eel said:
Build the wall GoFundMe up to $2.5 million from 42000 donors and 550k shares on social media:

https://www.gofundme.com/TheTrumpWall

We should follow the fate of this campaign here in order to not spam the Trump thread with constant updates.
Now almost at $7 million. Dude is gonna be on FOX tonight.
I threw 40 bucks to him. Best money I spent this month. I am a big fan of direct funding of democratic ideas.
 

Bolly

Pelican
I'm not the type of man to toot my horn, but this time I'm gonna toot my horn. I just donated 100 bucks. I encourage everyone to pitch in if you can. On the gofundmepage he says if it don't get accomplished you'll be refunded. This is one hell of way to shout loud and clear to the open border progressives we're fucking serious. Our American identity is crucial and a nation ain't a nation, and a people ain't a people without borders. Numbers don't lie. Cash talks; bullshit walks.
 
Actually interesting to watch the growth rate. It's increased 50% in the last 2 hours, up from 1000 donors per 10 minutes to 1500 per 10 mins. How long till it levels off?

Nobody has ever done this before, politically, at least not this way.
 
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