The Unrest in Kazakhstan Thread

Thomas More

Hummingbird
Even if this is organized from the outside, as I expect it is, there must be a tremendous amount of dissatisfaction among the people. Outsiders alone could not spark this large an uprising without the people being ready to cut loose at the slightest incitement.

Is this true? Or are most people staying home, and all these riots and activities are just members of a small, organized cadre?
 

La Águila Negra

Ostrich
Protestant
Update on post #13.

The CSTO will intervene in Kazakhstan by deploying 'peacekeeping' forces in the country in accordance with the Organisation's Article 4.

This was stated by the current Chairman of the CSTO Nikol Pasinyan. Due to the organisation's set up this decision does not need to be ratified in the State Duma. According to Pasinyan the 'peacekeeping' forces will stay until the situation has stabilized.

Russian troops on the border are on standby. Allegedly some troops are being re-deployed from the Ukrainian border



 
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La Águila Negra

Ostrich
Protestant
Even if this is organized from the outside, as I expect it is, there must be a tremendous amount of dissatisfaction among the people. Outsiders alone could not spark this large an uprising without the people being ready to cut loose at the slightest incitement.

Is this true? Or are most people staying home, and all these riots and activities are just members of a small, organized cadre?

Imagine Covid tyranny but then for 30 years.
 

budoslavic

Eagle
Orthodox
Gold Member
Even if this is organized from the outside, as I expect it is, there must be a tremendous amount of dissatisfaction among the people. Outsiders alone could not spark this large an uprising without the people being ready to cut loose at the slightest incitement.

Is this true? Or are most people staying home, and all these riots and activities are just members of a small, organized cadre?
The underlined part is exactly what I was thinking because the "protest" seems well coordinated and organized. I just don't believe they are protesting about the gas prices hike.
 

budoslavic

Eagle
Orthodox
Gold Member
Well, this is interesting. :hmm:








Edit.

Kazakhstan

The former Soviet republic is ranked second in the world currently in bitcoin mining, behind the U.S. Kazakhstan had an 18.1% hashrate in August 2021, according to the Cambridge Center for Alternative Finance.

The location of Kazakhstan, a country of 18.75 million people located in Central Asia that borders China and Russia, along with the facilities offered by the government, caused Chinese miners to move their mining farms en masse.

But currently the country is facing an energy crisis caused by intense mining activity. The population is suffering constant blackouts due to the shortage of electricity. National energy demand this year grew 8%, above the 1% or 2% annual average.

Some cryptocurrency mining companies located in southern Kazakhstan have had to shut down or relocate their equipment to other countries. Hence, many miners no longer consider this country as a suitable place for the exploitation of bitcoin.

The infrastructure of the national electric power grid does not help either. The transfer of energy from the most energy-rich areas in the north to the most scarce areas in the south is not easy.

Since 2019, the government has made million-dollar investments to support BTC mining that relies primarily on burning coal. But this was not enough. Now lawmakers are demanding greater regulations on mining to prevent the collapse of the national electricity system.

The government expected to earn bitcoin mining tax revenue of close to $ 1.5 million over the next five years. However, the energy crisis has forced the authorities to think of alternatives to make up for the electricity deficit. One of them is the importation of electrical energy from Russia.
 
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presidentcarter

Ostrich
Protestant
Gold Member
Flag is actually Belgium. Yeah, I noticed the EU flag as well, which set off an alarm bell in the back of my head. Her profile stated the following:
My bad the colors were a false friend. Same thing though :laugh:

Not a single drop of blood? Seems like propaganda. I could be wrong though and I'm not taking sides.

Kazakhstan was in my bucket list of places to visit. I guess I will wait a little longer.
I was always curious about it and had some friends from there in Moscow. Even considered a contract to work in Almaty some years ago. Interesting place and people for sure.
 

paternos

Sparrow
Catholic
Something doesn't add up. The whole thing reeks outside forces (i.e., foreign agents, EU, NATO, etc.) pushing for whatever agenda (i.e., change of political power). Edit. In one of La Águila Negra's posts, it mentioned "The west is preparing a new comedian or journalist for you as head government". This is what I meant by outside forces. It reminds me of the Orange Revolution in Ukraine.

I feel the same.

Very similar imagery as Iraq, Libia & Egypt.

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What the Kazach twitter girl in Belgium says seems off. That the population is fed up with it and the cause of it.

Kazachstan is the world largest Uranium producer (more than 40%) and seems the Jewish west is going to build nuclear again. Could very well be part of the power play.

What is interesting though we have not a lot of democrats or other internationalist liberals/socialists/greens shouting on twitter how they welcome the liberation. Which could indicate this is not happening how the jews planned it. But that could just as well be tactics. Wanting to see how it plays out, before they scream liberation / peace / end of corruption.

Anyhow media in the west seems quite "pro population" in the revolt. Which is quite different to anti-population media position on local Covid protests. Anyhow it's all on Twitter and they don't get purged as do people who are critical on experimental injections.

In most cases these kind of peoples revolutions end up in a big mess. Egypt, Libya, Iraq all are far more dysfunctional than before. Which could be part of the plan. Destabilizing the region as the US tries to do in Xinjiang pushing the Uyghur hoax. Classic US/Jew divide and conquer politics.

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What is also interesting that the were/are quite pro European with a treaty signed in 2020 but in the last years ties of Kazachstan with China got tighter. Silk road. Uranium. Train lines. Better roads.


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They are also pushing the Uyghur hoax on the Kazach president.

If I would bet my money. President has overplayed his hand strengthening ties with China. Making the jews in the US angry. Just as they got angry at Saddam and Khadaffi in Iraq and Libya who started to act anti-jew/US.


At once US can put a blow to China and Russia. Think Kazachstan is maybe the most crucial country in that region.

And with the US wanting to block the Chinese silk road to Europe (Kazachstan/Xinjiang is crucial in that) And then goal to destabilize China this might be a smart action. US has been so meddling in the Xinjiang region and this seems a smart regional play from a geopolitical perspective.

Could very well have been a long built activity. Like the Uyghur hoax they have been building for years.

Anyhow very interesting development in the China - US power play. My bet that's what it is. And in the coming days, Biden will come out that he is very worried what it is happening in Kazachstan, that they are very willing to help to bring peace and prosperity. That they will do an investigation into the president (and they will find a lot of corruption surprise..)
 
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just a human

Robin
Atheist
Situation is extremely serious. Putin and Lukashenko are sending their troops to help Kazakhstan government. This can escalate to bloody international conflict. There already are battles going on. This is symbolic - it's a battle between people and dictatorships- usurpers of post Soviet area.
 

Easy_C

Peacock
IMHO, the demand to end ties with Russia the dead giveaway.

I saw a great post on r/stupidpol (anti-idpol leftists who have good points surprisingly frequently).

The dude had a few things he'd gleaned.

1: Exploding energy costs, to the tune of things effectively doubling over a few days, was enough to ignite an already frustrated people.

2: The protests display an extreme level of organization that is far beyond what any real revolution would be able to pull off within 48 hours, suggesting that the organization was already put in place and this event is being orchestrated.

3: A contributing factor was Chinese BTC miners setting up shop in old factories and draining entire power grids.
 

La Águila Negra

Ostrich
Protestant
Russian media is reporting that the CSTO peacekeeping unit will consist of several SF units


These forces will 'not be used to restore order but to guard vital military and civilian infrastructure'. This will probably be true in the case of the Kazakh security forces successfully cracking down. If not they might be used offensively

This intervention shows that the Kazakh military is possible split, and/or hedging bets on both sides. Therefor the Russians don't trust the Kazakh military and the stakes are too high for more f-ups.

As for the protests, the intervention might have an incendiary effect as many will see this as blatant foreign interference and an invasion under a false pretext



Location unclear. Military/police opened fire on protestors, many people injured and killed



RAND report 'Overextending and Unbalancing Russia' written in 2019.

 
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Pointy Elbows

Woodpecker
Orthodox
US is now out of Afghanistan, exiting central Asia.
US/Russia conflict brewing in east Ukraine.
Massive (geographically) Kazakhstan has long borders with both China and Ukraine, dominating much of central Asia.
Now, a curious turn of events that has spin-off positives for anti-bitcoiners, anti-Russia folks.

Don't know how important Kazakh uranium is to Russia.

Grand Chessboard stuff. Old Zbigniew Brzezinski is eating this up.
 

Going strong

Crow
Trad Catholic
Gold Member
A bit of both.

Look at which dogs are barking and which ones are gleefully rubbing their hands. Not a peep about the violence from the EU, and the US issued a strange warning in mid December already. Some of the local leaders are already showing their true colors as agents of the West

Jenn Psaki denying involvement

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I thought I read Psaki's words as, "There are some crazy MSM claims about Russia being behind everything. That is absolutely false & clearly part of the standard Liberal disinformation playbook".

In any case, it changes the situation regarding Ukraine. Russia might have to divert troops from its Russia/Ukraine borders, or send the Wagner Group urgently to Kazakhstan, all good news for NATO in or around Ukraine.
 
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