The Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated Divide thread

Edin

Robin
Me: - Have you watched the video I sent you?
Normie: - Yes.
- What do you think about it?
- It was cool!
- Do you agree with it?
- Yes, it is very clever! Those vaccines are dangerous.
- And what did you do after watching the video? Did you think about it?
- I had an appointment for the Covid vaccine. So I went to the doctor and got my jab. Then I posted it on Facebook and watched Netflix until I fall asleep.
Me: - ???

He must be one of the more intelligent normies since he at least watched it! Where did you find him? :)
 

Pantheon

Sparrow
Orthodox
It's weird. People seem to want the vaccine, regardless if they need it or not. When I think about it from a secular mindset it makes sense, because "why just not take it". It doesn't mean anything, yet spiritually it amounts to a giant secular cleanliness ritual. Even if it turns out to be harmful to many people, it will be viewed as a net good. Even if it caused mass death to some demographic, it will be rationalized as net good. Just like lockdowns themselves. Such is the utilitarian morality of the age. The governmental goal is to reduce number of deaths per year and make society "safe" and deterministic, whether we're talking about traffic accidents, lung cancer or pandemics. Yet the bible warns against this abstract, utilitarian measuring and counting of people and bodies. Can't remember the passage but it's there for sure.
 
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Pantheon

Sparrow
Orthodox
Not every secular person would "just" take it, only the dumb ones will do.

Correct but when I say "secular" I speak about essential categories which might also include Christians who have a materialistic mindset, or exclude non-religious people who remain sceptical and might be branded as "conspiracy theorists". In this world, nothing is what it seems to be, and you have to discern people spiritually rather than taking them by face value.
 

Eusebius Erasmus

Kingfisher
Orthodox
Actually it is a logical thing to segregate from vaccinated people due to shedding. And also they are indirectly dangerous just by supporting and legitimizing the whole craziness.

Here on this forum the vaccinated are strongly targeted. I think their input could be valuable if they honestly describe the side effects. But if they advertise the vaccine lifestyle that is not something that should be tolerated.

There is also a segregation line because some people think that Covid does not exist at all. I personally think that the existence of Covid is somewhat of a red herring because that is not a very important question. But I would not attack people for stating it exists. Even I think that something weird exists just by looking at information that I got directly from people who I know. But it can be anything it may even not be caused by a virus.
As a Christian, I don’t believe in segregating from people just because of their vaccination status. These people are foolish, but nobody is beyond Christ’s redemption.

Also, this information is not quite right. The vaccinated aren’t dangerous because of shedded spike proteins (which are mostly dead anyway if they’re being shed). The vaccinated have weaker immune systems, and are so more likely to pass disease for that reason.
 

hkhathaj

Woodpecker
Also, this information is not quite right. The vaccinated aren’t dangerous because of shedded spike proteins (which are mostly dead anyway if they’re being shed). The vaccinated have weaker immune systems, and are so more likely to pass disease for that reason.
I have seen a few suspected shedding cases. I don't know the mechanism but empirically avoiding the vaxxed for a few days after vaccination is not a bad idea. Some precaution can be useful.
 

Eusebius Erasmus

Kingfisher
Orthodox
I have seen a few suspected shedding cases. I don't know the mechanism but empirically avoiding the vaxxed for a few days after vaccination is not a bad idea. Some precaution can be useful.
I think taking Vitamins C and D daily, along with zinc (and melatonin if you can handle it) is sufficient, along with good exercise, diet, and sleeping habits.

Most importantly, we must trust in God’s grace. I don’t like the idea of treating people as lepers.
 

Zanardi

Woodpecker
Orthodox
As a Christian, I don’t believe in segregating from people just because of their vaccination status.

Most importantly, we must trust in God’s grace. I don’t like the idea of treating people as lepers.

I agree with you. This thread gives me the strong feeling of persecution against the vaccinated, while defending the non-vaccinated. Not so Christian, in my books.
 
So I haven't gotten vaccinated yet and do not want to. I am getting pressure recently from girl im seeing, from mom to get it.

As a late adopter, i usually only do something WAY after I know its safe and right now theres way too much smoke to suggest a fire for me to go anywhere near this thing.

What are you guys planning to do if its required to travel? Or other basic shit.
Have already turned it down when offered by my employer. Just going to keep resisting and take it one day at a time.
 

Steiner

Sparrow
I agree with you. This thread gives me the strong feeling of persecution against the vaccinated, while defending the non-vaccinated. Not so Christian, in my books.
Give me a break, one of the only places you can speak freely on the internet and suddenly we are persecuting the vaxxed?

I get emails from my employer every other day telling me to go get vaxxed, I have to wear a Chinese-made surgical mask over my face at work at all times if I don't have their stupid shot.

The vaccinated have every single major corporation, the government, and an extremely vocal part of the population on their side. This thread contains tons of actual persecution against those unwanted.

Go cry me a river about feeling persecuted on an internet forum

You @ the early Christian forums "This thread gives me a strong feeling of persecution against the Romans while defending the Christians that are being thrown into the colloseum. Tisk tisk "
 

Bird

Pelican
but empirically avoiding the vaxxed for a few days after vaccination is not a bad idea

Does shedding only occur just after the injection?

From my understanding vaxxed people are something like "biological factories" from the date of injection until death.
 

The Mechanism of a Mass Crime​

In the past few years, the access, though limited, to previously inaccessible documents from the Politburo of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (CPSU) and the State Security Police has thrown new light on the mechanism, the organization, and the implementation of the “Great Terror.” This crucial episode of Stalinism had provoked, long before the opening of the Soviet archives, a number of studies and debates about the amplitude, the reasons, and the purpose of the massacre of tens of thousands of communist officials and of a huge number (the evaluations ranged between hundreds of thousands and several millions) of ordinary soviet citizens – a massacre perpetrated by “a state against its people.” In the 1950s American scholars proposed a structural explanation of the Great Terror: as a totalitarian system Stalin's regime had to maintain its citizens in a state of fear and uncertainty, and recurrent random purging provided the mechanism. At the end of the 1960s Robert Conquest published the first detailed account, which was to become a classical reference, of the Great Terror. Based primarily on testimonies or memoirs of those who had survived or deserted the “Fatherland of socialism” and on the numerous Soviet publications in the years of the “Khruschev thaw,” the work of Robert Conquest emphasized Stalin's paranoia, focused on the Moscow show trials of old Bolsheviks, and analyzed the carefully planned and systematic destruction of the Leninist party leadership as the first step toward terrorizing the entire population.

Any resemblance to the current world is purely coincidental.
 

Israeli Holocaust Survivor Vera Sharav and talks about the parallels between the Holocaust and The Great Reset and the Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated.​

This one should be spread far and wide. It would be great if someone like Tucker Carlson, Bret Weinstein or even Steven Crowder had her on. All opponents of the Great Reset should push the “parallel with the Nazis” theme hard. Holocaust survivors are considered untouchable, sacred, beyond criticism, so if the powers that be start attacking her and people like her they’ve opened up a new can of worms.

Another guest that needs to be booked - Christopher Langan, the guy with the 200 plus IQ has come out firmly against the vaccines and even calls it a Social Darwinist plot devised by psychopathic financial elites:


20/20 for example called Langan the smartest man in America, if the MSM turns on him over this they are essentially attacking themselves, since they built him up as this super IQ genius in the first place.

Normies see “super high IQ” as shorthand for genius and “Holocaust survivor” as shorthand for virtue.
 

Eusebius Erasmus

Kingfisher
Orthodox
Another guest that needs to be booked - Christopher Langan, the guy with the 200 plus IQ has come out firmly against the vaccines and even calls it a Social Darwinist plot devised by psychopathic financial elites:


20/20 for example called Langan the smartest man in America, if the MSM turns on him over this they are essentially attacking themselves, since they built him up as this super IQ genius in the first place.

Normies see “super high IQ” as shorthand for genius and “Holocaust survivor” as shorthand for virtue.

Langan's exposition sent chills down my spine.

TL;DR. Vaccine passports make it easy to identify the un-vaxxed, who are not sheep that the globalists can control. Hence, since un-vaxxed are independent thinkers and difficult to enslave, it is easier for the elite to identify them and kill them.
 
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BiggNastee

Kingfisher
Langan's exposition sent chills down my spine.

TL;DR. Those who refuse the vaccine are not sheep, and are difficult for the globalists to control. Vaccine passports make it easy to identify the un-vaxxed. Hence, since un-vaxxed are independent thinkers and difficult to enslave, it is easier for the elite to just kill them off.
They would lose if they challenged the capable. That's why I'm sure at this point that the sterility issue is the only logical option. And people are lining up for that. Slow burn
 
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