The Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated Divide thread


I wish we would stop calling it anti-vaxx. I'm anti-expiremental Gene therapy.

That's the exact tact I've been taking. I've travelled and worked abroad extensively, so I likely have more vaccines than 95% of people in Canada. I ask them, that since there's a very good chance you've had fewer vaccines than me, wouldn't that make you the anti-vaxxer? But alas, facts like this go nowhere.

I tell them I'm anti-rushing-important-things-that-normally-take-the-better-part-of-a-decade. The example I use is aviation. From start to finish, airplane design takes the same ballpark as a good vaccine. Even then, look at the 737 Max, and the 787, and a few other more obscure aircraft in the test flight phases. Not rushed, actually well behind schedule, and still both have had major issues that have/may kill people only discovered years after the fact. Now imagine what would happen if you had to compress all that design and testing into 10% of the normal time. Not only that, but they're using new technology that's never been successfully used in any wide scale application. So not only are we designing a new aircraft start to finish in 6 months vs 5 years, but it's also going to be a 100 passenger, autonomous, passenger drone style one with 6 rotors. In 1 year it's had more crashes than the cummulative number of accidents in the last 20, but don't worry it's safe and effective trasnport. How many people would fly on it?


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"Why yes, I'm anti-vax, how could you tell?"



Vaxxed blood vs unvaxxed blood under the microscope (Presentation in German without subtitles):

It's amazing at what you can see at only 400x under the microscope
Vaxxed blood is clotting and sticky.
He explains how unvaxxed people can still show other problems like fatty liver or vitamin B deficiency or iron deficiency.



[edit] He sais at 43min, one of the vaxxed persons broke down in tears after seeing this live
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Tool to Enforce Orwellian Rules’: 80 House Republicans Help Pass Bill to Fund Federal Vaccination Database​

Eighty House Republicans voted with Democrats on Tuesday to pass the Immunization Infrastructure Modernization Act, which if passed by the Senate and signed into law would fund a federal vaccination database.

According to the bill, also called H. R. 550, the government would provide $400 million in taxpayer dollars to fund “immunization system data modernization and expansion,” a system otherwise defined as “a confidential, population-based, computerized database that records immunization doses administered by any health care provider to persons within the geographic area covered by that database.”

The text specifically outlines an expansion of Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and Public Health Department capabilities and the ability for state and local health departments, as well as public and private health care providers, to share health data with the federal government.

In a statement, the bill’s main sponsor, Democrat Rep. Ann Kuster (NH), said the system would be used to “remind patients when they are due for a recommended vaccine” and identify areas with low vaccination rates to “ensure equitable distribution of vaccines.” Notably, the bill has four Republican co-sponsors: Reps. Larry Bucshon (R-IN), James Baird (R-IN), David McKinley (R-WV), and Brian Fitzpatrick (R-PA). Not one Democrat voted in opposition to the bill.

Rep. Mary Miller (R-IL), who was one of the 130 Republicans to vote “no,” told Breitbart News exclusively on Wednesday that the legislation would enable the federal government to “track” unvaccinated Americans who “will be targeted and forced to comply with Biden’s crazy ‘global vaccination’ vision.”

“These systems are designed to allow for the sharing of crucial information and maintenance of records. Do we really trust the government to protect our medical records?” Miller said. “The bill’s author even bragged in her press release that these systems will help the government remind patients when they are due for a recommended vaccine and identify areas with low vaccination rates to ensure equitable distribution of vaccines. This was clearly a legislative tool to enforce vaccine mandates and force their Orwellian rules onto those who do not comply.”

Rep. Byron Donalds (R-FL) also voted “no” on the bill, citing “Democrats’ habitual pattern of reckless and wasteful spending” in an exclusive statement to Breitbart News. The congressman said the legislation only serves to expand the power of the federal government and trample individual rights.

“This legislation would unnecessarily appropriate millions of taxpayer funds intended to expand bureaucracy in Washington. A database solely created to record and collect confidential vaccination information of Americans explicitly encroaches upon individuals’ fundamental right to medical privacy,” Donalds said. “As a fiscal conservative, I cannot in good faith support legislation that contributes to the Democrats’ habitual pattern of reckless and wasteful spending and the intrusive heavy hand of government.”

Miller noted that the legislation paves the way for the government to give blue states millions in taxpayers funds to enforce vaccine mandates. According to the bill’s text, the government could award grants and cooperative agreements to health departments or other local governmental entities for agreeing to adopt the new data collection guidelines set by the CDC. Any agencies hoping to receive a grant must agree to comply with security standards to protect personal health information.

The government may also develop “public-private partnerships” to help with “technical assistance, training, and related implementation support.” When Breitbart News asked Miller if public-private partnerships could potentially obscure data collection activities from the public, she said the government cannot be trusted to be transparent.

“…The government has become so large, you cannot expect them to keep anything private anymore. There is hardly any congressional oversight into studies these agencies conduct,” she added.

Kuster is urging the Senate to quickly pass the legislation, saying the pandemic showed just how underprepared the country’s “vaccine infrastructure” is. She emphasized that the legislation would help better prepare healthcare systems for “future public health crises.” She said in part:

COVID-19 pulled back the curtain on our vaccination systems and highlighted the urgent need for upgrades. I’m proud the House passed my bipartisan Immunization Infrastructure Modernization Act to expand the enrollment and training of vaccine providers, update public health information technology to efficiently manage vaccine supply, and allow patients and providers to communicate securely in real-time.

Miller contended that the government has “no reason” to collect more vaccination data on Americans.

“As I’ve said many times before, the government is not your doctor. The federal government has no business inserting itself into private healthcare matters of Americans. There is no reason for them to collect this data, it is an affront to our liberties and health freedoms,” she said. “This kind of legislation is always passed because the government has its hands in everything nowadays, often at the expense of the freedoms and privacy of Americans. This bill would allow the government to collect, study, and share your private health data. There are endless ways the government could potentially use that information against you – purposefully and accidentally.”

H.R. 550 Bill



Sure it was corona.

Every article on this is the same. Two lesbians "brainwashed" by anti-vaxx claims. I found her LinkedIn but there wasn't much info. She says in the articles she was healthy...just a bit chubby. Give me a break. She's grossly obese and so is her partner. No mention but we can assume her partner had no ill effects despite living with this woman. Meaning, there's more to this story, especially given the level of care she had to get.


I often wondered why they don't include normal, healthy-looking people in their propaganda pieces, but the obesity rate is so now so high in Western countries these examples probably just resonate best with the average person.
It’s like when they say an obese teenager dies from COVID and was “healthy”. No one even blinks unless it’s an obvious 400 lbs.
If he/she/it is 200-250lbs that’s technically obese but actually bold, beautiful and healthy in Western clown world.


Other Christian
Not sure which thread to post this in.
In my small online community, I am having a regular ding dong with a Jewish guy I know who keeps responding with CNN MSNBC BBC and Guardian articles to dispel my anti vaccine narrative.
It seems that I am changing minds and having a small ripple effect on the normies and vaxxed in the chat.
He is throwing the kitchen sink: conspiracy theories 9/11 crackpots Trump fans , flat earth, insurrection , brexit... he seems to be very focused that everyone subscribe to the cnn worldview with nix deviations. What they say is La Verdad.
The weird thing is, and I fail to see what it has to do with covid, but he keeps invoking Nate Silver and Nate Silvers accurate predictions in the 2020 election.
Nate Silver got his predictions right in the last 2020 election?