The Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated Divide thread

Mrredsquare said:
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We've told them that there's a dragon above them if they look up. They're frightened to do so, and rather attack the messenger than look up to see what's really above them. This dynamic can be extrapolated to any realm of modern human society - whether it's male/female dynamics, feminism, the lie of equality, how the system works, the great reset and so on.
 
I don't know a lot about Marjorie Taylor Green. The left sure seems to hate her though, and I can't help but like her after reading this in the MSM about her calling for a political discussion among "pure bloods" and the resulting freak out from the SJWs:

news.yahoo.com

Marjorie Taylor Greene Sparks Anger With ‘Pure Bloods’ Tweet About Unvaccinated

The far-right lawmaker's personal Twitter account was reinstated following a ban for sharing COVID-19 misinformation.
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I wonder if typical accusations of "white supremacy" with no basis whatsoever like this are finally starting to backfire, seeing as Kyrie Irving would also clearly be a "pure blood" by the way MTG is using the term. Also, how much it even matters with the Democrats and Globohomo seemingly entirely in control of the election apparatus nowadays.
 
bucky said:
I don't know a lot about Marjorie Taylor Green. The left sure seems to hate her though, and I can't help but like her after reading this in the MSM about her calling for a political discussion among "pure bloods" and the resulting freak out from the SJWs:

news.yahoo.com

Marjorie Taylor Greene Sparks Anger With ‘Pure Bloods’ Tweet About Unvaccinated

The far-right lawmaker's personal Twitter account was reinstated following a ban for sharing COVID-19 misinformation.
news.yahoo.com news.yahoo.com

I wonder if typical accusations of "white supremacy" with no basis whatsoever like this are finally starting to backfire, seeing as Kyrie Irving would also clearly be a "pure blood" by the way MTG is using the term. Also, how much it even matters with the Democrats and Globohomo seemingly entirely in control of the election apparatus nowadays.
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Yes if the Dems and the Reps are the wings, GloHo is the bird. Different wings, same bird.
 
Pete345 said:
When people around me (still) complain that I am not wearing a mask, I ask them, "Have you been vaccinated?". When they inevitably say yes, I tell them, "then you don't need to be afraid". That puts a major glitch in their programming software, and takes the burden off me.
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For theoretical completeness' sake what would be your response if they say no?
 
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Pete345 said:
When people around me (still) complain that I am not wearing a mask, I ask them, "Have you been vaccinated?". When they inevitably say yes, I tell them, "then you don't need to be afraid". That puts a major glitch in their programming software, and takes the burden off me.
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Maybe that's an EU thing. Here in blue-state USA, I find most normies are quite capable of being quintuple boosted (or whatever it is at this point) and still being terrified of COVID. This may have something to do with their having almost always gotten COVID at least once or twice in spite of their being vaxxed. You'd think the fact that COVID for them invariably amounted to no worse than a bad cold would take the edge off their fear or even get them to start questioning things, but no. Instead they usually assume they didn't die because of the vax, even though I'm a pure blood who's had COVID a few times and also had symptoms that were also about the same as a typical cold.
 
Pete345 said:
This has never happened yet, because an unvaxxed person in theory would not care if I am wearing a mask.
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True but mayb I am an autist/stickler for detail I don't want to get caught off guard. Presumably this can happen if

1) Leftist antivax for years. However still believes in germ theory and that masks are effective.
2) Immunocompromised or in some way cannot get vaxxed.
3) Underage for vax(although with how its pimped for children/teens maybe this doesn't apply)
4) Perhaps they are an athlete or do some kind of physical labor or have a very important job so they cannot take vaccines to run the risk of being sick for an extended period of time. However, they still buy the covid narrative otherwise.

Though I do agree it's unlikely.
 
SeaEagle said:
We are slightly cleaner dirt perhaps.
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I get what you're trying to say but let's not conflate Christians with leftists. Don't even morally equivocate us. This saying makes more sense if you compare us to any sane group of unbelievers. Like the Japanese, the Taiwanese, the Pakistani, etc. But let's be honest here, leftists are on a whole different level of evil. They're not merely just misguided; their moral system is structured around doing as much harm to the good, true, and beautiful as possible.

The Japanese, despite their heathen ways, at least value beauty. They try very hard to make great art. And many other groups of people are at least morally ordered toward the survival of their society, which at least makes sense at the animal, primal level. They may not have Christian values, but at least you can sit down with them and talk about Christ and His values and not immediately trigger them into rabid monsters frothing at the mouth.

But let's not kid ourselves: leftists are an especially degenerate set and even the ancient pagans would spit on them and condemn them by their pagan standards. Yes, they'll probably think the rest of us are weak, fat, stupid idiots, but at least we have the semblance of acting in a functional socially constructive way.

What I'm saying is that there is a very distinct, qualitative difference between leftists and the rest of humanity.
 

Nurses’ attitudes toward COVID-19 vaccination for their children are highly influenced by partisanship, a new study finds​

The big idea

Children of nurses who identify as Republican are less likely to receive a COVID-19 vaccination compared with children of nurses who identify as Democrat, according to our recently published study in the Journal of Community Health.

We surveyed more than 1,000 nurses in South Dakota in June and July of 2022. Of those, 298 participants reported having children 5 to 17 years old. We asked this group about the vaccination status of their children and found that the children of nurses who identified as Democrats had a 13% higher probability of being vaccinated compared with the offspring of nurses who identified as Republican.

The timing of our survey only allowed us to measure the vaccination intention of parents of children from 6 months to 4 years old, since authorization of COVID-19 vaccines for that age group occurred just days before the survey. Of the 123 nurses who reported having children 6 months to 4 years old, those who identified as Democrats had a 14% higher probability of intending to vaccinate their children compared to self-identified Republicans.

Additionally, we found that those nurses who received a COVID-19 booster dose were more likely to vaccinate their children. On the other hand, gender, education and type of nursing credential had no effect.

Why it matters

Since the start of the COVID-19 pandemic, vaccination for children has been a contentious issue. In our study, we found that polarization among nurses split along political party lines in a similar fashion to the general public.

Despite the wide availability of safe and free COVID-19 vaccines for children and adolescents in the U.S., vaccination rates for people under age 18 are lower than for adults. As of Nov. 30, 2022, more than 60% of children remain unvaccinated.

Though children tend to be more resilient to COVID-19, there are still significant risks. The Centers for Diseases Control and Prevention has reported more than 1,500 deaths of children under 18 from COVID-19, as of late November 2022. And children are susceptible to “long” COVID symptoms as well.

Nurses – and other health care workers – are at the forefront of efforts to contain COVID-19. They also advise patients who are deciding whether to vaccinate themselves and their families. Our study shows that among nurses, political partisanship appears to influence their attitudes toward vaccinating their own kids.

Public health officials are striving to boost COVID-19 vaccination rates. Yet the politicization of the pandemic continues to hinder these efforts.

Increasing vaccination rates among children will also protect the most vulnerable members of society, such as older adults and people with weakened immune systems. Nevertheless, some parents continue to resist vaccinating their children.

Our study shows that parents make COVID-19 vaccination decisions for the entire family. We found that nurses who received a booster dose of a COVID-19 vaccine are more likely to vaccinate their children and adolescents. However, the nurses who haven’t received a booster dose are far less likely to vaccinate their children.

What other research is being done

Our findings align with other research carried out by ourselves and others that shows the strong influence of partisan self-identification on COVID-19 attitudes and behaviors.

Other studies we’ve done show that Republicans are less likely than Democrats to receive a COVID-19 vaccination and are less likely to support mandatory COVID-19 vaccination. We also found that nurses who identify as Republican are less likely to receive a COVID-19 booster dose.

Our study joins a growing body of work that seeks to explore the factors behind COVID-19 vaccine hesitancy among health care workers. Other studies have linked race and ethnicity, as well as trust in government, physicians and pharmaceutical companies, to the attitudes of health care workers toward COVID-19 vaccination.

What’s next

Given the politicization of the pandemic and the erosion of trust in authorities, it’s important that messages encouraging the vaccination of children come from trusted sources.

Our previous research suggests that religious leaders can help encourage compliance with COVID-19 prevention measures. In the future, we plan to investigate whether endorsements from trusted community leaders could convince parents to vaccinate their children.
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theconversation.com

Nurses' attitudes toward COVID-19 vaccination for their children are highly influenced by partisanship, a new study finds

Nurses who identify as Democrats have a significantly higher likelihood of having their children vaccinated against COVID-19 than those who identify as Republicans.
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Elipe said:
I get what you're trying to say but let's not conflate Christians with leftists. Don't even morally equivocate us. This saying makes more sense if you compare us to any sane group of unbelievers. Like the Japanese, the Taiwanese, the Pakistani, etc. But let's be honest here, leftists are on a whole different level of evil. They're not merely just misguided; their moral system is structured around doing as much harm to the good, true, and beautiful as possible.

The Japanese, despite their heathen ways, at least value beauty. They try very hard to make great art. And many other groups of people are at least morally ordered toward the survival of their society, which at least makes sense at the animal, primal level. They may not have Christian values, but at least you can sit down with them and talk about Christ and His values and not immediately trigger them into rabid monsters frothing at the mouth.

But let's not kid ourselves: leftists are an especially degenerate set and even the ancient pagans would spit on them and condemn them by their pagan standards. Yes, they'll probably think the rest of us are weak, fat, stupid idiots, but at least we have the semblance of acting in a functional socially constructive way.

What I'm saying is that there is a very distinct, qualitative difference between leftists and the rest of humanity.
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Leftism is incomparably worse than paganism. Paganism was pre-Christian. Progressivism is post-Christianity. It is the perversion of Christian moral values with a gnostic twist and a pharisaical compulsion to display virtue.

Antichrist will be the modern replacement for Christ , claiming to be the Christ. Antichrist religion is the replacement for Christianity, often claiming to be the very thing it has usurped. It operates from with a Christian moral frame of reference, albeit warped. The Christian concepts of compassion, kindness, regard for the poor and downtrodden are all the ostensible marks of leftism. Thus, the leftist Christian, so called, thinks himself to be the very embodiment of the mind of Christ. The leftist post-Christian thinks himself to have ascended beyond Christian superstitions while he does his pharisaical best to ape the morality of Christ, blissfully unaware that his entire rotted moral framework is the decaying civilizational carcass of his Christian forbearers.

Scarcely will either be saved.

The public display of virtue is the single greatest hallmark of modern progressivism. They are truly the modern Pharisee. The mask is not nearly so much a prophylactic as it is a phylactery.

The gnostic side of modernism is revealed in their conflation of knowledge and virtue. To have knowledge, in the gnostic scheme is to be virtuous, and to be virtuous is to have knowledge. Education is salvation. Ignorance is damnation.

The covid global scam plays perfectly to every worst side of progressivism.

Public display of virtue? Check.
Moral certainty? Check.
Intellectual superiority? Check.
Deference transferred from the Church to the state? Check.
Moral authority transferred from the priesthood to scientists and technicians? Check.
Compassion (purportedly) made mandatory? Check.
"Kindness" made compulsory? Check. (You are compelled to vax your children in order to save their grandma.)
Public morality enforced by the mob? Check.
 
Parents are being put in tough spots. This 4 month old baby needed blood transfusion, but the parents refused to have vaccinated blood given to her. Apparently, some purebloods were willing to donate, but the hospital rejected that offer. Now the baby is essentially vaccinated.

I think it would be difficult to set up some kind of hospital system for the unvaccinated. The most feasible option would be to go to a country with an extremely low vax rate. But since those are all developing countries, it would be tougher to get more complicated medical procedures done.

 
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