The Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated Divide thread

GuitarVH

Ostrich
Orthodox Inquirer
Apologies if this has been posted before, but I hadn't seen it. This shocked me:



Dame Esther Rantzen, a famous TV hostess in the UK.


The people who promote this and think this way are just demon-possessed. There is no other explanation for this wicked cruelty.

They have no compassion or even reasoned thought process for wanting others to be denied life-giving services for not taking an experimental medication unrelated to their specific health issue. No malevolence like this towards the masses has ever been seen in my lifetime, maybe ever. You have to constantly remind yourself how EVIL the whole thing is because you would never hear any representative of the power structure speak such twisted words like this in public.
 

Wyotana

 
Banned
Orthodox
The people who promote this and think this way are just demon-possessed. There is no other explanation for this wicked cruelty.
They are progressive. Though, to be sure, the lines between progressive and possessed tend to overlap.

Under progressive thought every noncompliant criminal thinker is a threat to progress everywhere. Any single benighted, regressive, badthinker is an unacceptable impediment to progress and the glorious eschaton.
 

muscacav

Woodpecker
Trad Catholic

The lack of details about the fatal incident where people were shot by tactical forces is unnerving.

Australian police are using a brutal ambush on two cops to encourage residents to rat out neighbors who are skeptical of the Covid-10 vaccine, or harbor anti-government views.



On December 12, two Brisbane police officers were gunned down by a family of rural Australians, who opened fire as the two officers approached their home. Constables Rachel McCrow, 29, and Matthew Arnold, 26 died in the attack, while a third officer, Constable Randall Kirk, was shot in the leg but managed to escape. A fourth officer, Keely Brough, fled to safety in the bushes.

Later that evening, members of the rural family were killed in a shootout with tactical police.

In response to the incident, Deputy Commissioner Tracy Linford suggested that neighbors need to assume anyone who harbors non-mainstream views is clearly a threat.



"As I said before, if there’s anybody out there that knows of someone that might be showing concerning behavior around conspiracy theories, anti-government, anti-police, conspiracy theories around COVID-19 vaccination as what we’re seeing with [shooting perpetrators] the Train family, we’d want to know about it. We want to know about that. And you can either contact the police directly or go through Crime Stoppers," she said.

In response, Rebel News' Avi Yemini replied: "Queensland Police appealing to the public to dob in their neighbours who “are anti-government or believe Covid-19 vaccine conspiracy theories.”"

Queensland Police appealing to the public to dob in their neighbours who “are anti-government or believe Covid-19 vaccine conspiracy theories”.

ARE YOU PAYING ATTENTION YET?!

pic.twitter.com/7Hcnoz54iX
— Avi Yemini (@OzraeliAvi) December 26, 2022
This has not sat well with many:

1984 in 2022. What kind of world do they want to live in. What kind of world do they want to leave for future generations.
— Nole (@skyxxngd) December 26, 2022
We are allowed to oppose the government and police.
— Alèquin the Great (@AlequinGreat) December 26, 2022
Here is the neighbours pic.twitter.com/HLUsSgQHPO
— Sydney965‍♀️♏️ (@sydney9651) December 26, 2022
Authoritarianism, and totalitarianism, at its finest…

Bravo @ausgov, you’re making it less likely for any sort of tourism to occur in Australia…

There was a time that I, and many others , dreamt of visiting Australia…@ausgov police, you are a disgrace.

Happy Chanukah!
— Reliable Brain (@ReliableBrain) December 26, 2022
 

RedLagoon

Kingfisher
Orthodox Inquirer

The lack of details about the fatal incident where people were shot by tactical forces is unnerving.

Just so anyone knows; Australia is done. It always was a suspicious place but it ran on tourism because of its beautiful nature and "laid back attitude" well, that's all gone now.

A mine and forestry operation for China now perhaps?
 

orthoguy

Chicken
Orthodox
Don't know if this exact sort of thing has been said in the 86 pages of this thread, but I do want to throw in the perspective of someone who got jabbed while Orthodox, now knows it was wrong, and repented of it.

I don't know if I'm going to live three more years, a few months, or miraculously live a long time. We do receive the Body and Blood of Christ Himself in us every week, and that's a lot stronger than mRNA technology. God is in control no matter what, for both the vaccinated and the unvaccinated, and as Fr. Kosmas says, what's the difference between dying in three years and dying in a hundred if we live in repentance?

On the other hand, it has been difficult seeing certain people online present this in a factional way among Orthodox who got the jab and who didn't. Sometimes, it seems like the tables turn, and people who chose to get the jab in great distress and confusion get bundled alongside the worst leftists who were promoting it avidly. I'll note that I haven't seen anyone do that in the bits of this thread I've read, so I'm not trying to be passive aggressive here or anything like that. Mainly it's been on Twitter.

If you didn't get the jab, that's one big mistake you didn't make, but we've all made thousands of little and large blunders in our relationship with Christ. Honestly, making this comment is probably a mistake too, in some sense, but I feel it's important. We are all Orthodox Christians. Please pray for the people who were vaccinated, because Christ can do anything, no matter how oppressive and malignant the jabs seem to have been. I know I and probably thousands of others would appreciate those prayers.

EDIT: Also, if you got the first two jabs like me, simply don't get the boosters. If you got one dose, don't get the second. If you didn't get any, don't get any. That's pretty much what Fr. Spyridon told me when I asked him about a year ago, and I think Fr. Savvas on Mount Athos said the same thing after telling the story of the Elder who took it, repented, and regained his grace. I'm never getting a jab for new diseases like this again. Lord have mercy on us.
 
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RedLagoon

Kingfisher
Orthodox Inquirer
Don't know if this exact sort of thing has been said in the 86 pages of this thread, but I do want to throw in the perspective of someone who got jabbed while Orthodox, now knows it was wrong, and repented of it.

I don't know if I'm going to live three more years, a few months, or miraculously live a long time. We do receive the Body and Blood of Christ Himself in us every week, and that's a lot stronger than mRNA technology. God is in control no matter what, for both the vaccinated and the unvaccinated, and as Fr. Kosmas says, what's the difference between dying in three years and dying in a hundred if we live in repentance?

On the other hand, it has been difficult seeing certain people online present this in a factional way among Orthodox who got the jab and who didn't. Sometimes, it seems like the tables turn, and people who chose to get the jab in great distress and confusion get bundled alongside the worst leftists who were promoting it avidly. I'll note that I haven't seen anyone do that in the bits of this thread I've read, so I'm not trying to be passive aggressive here or anything like that. Mainly it's been on Twitter.

If you didn't get the jab, that's one big mistake you didn't make, but we've all made thousands of little and large blunders in our relationship with Christ. Honestly, making this comment is probably a mistake too, in some sense, but I feel it's important. We are all Orthodox Christians. Please pray for the people who were vaccinated, because Christ can do anything, no matter how oppressive and malignant the jabs seem to have been. I know I and probably thousands of others would appreciate those prayers.

EDIT: Also, if you got the first two jabs like me, simply don't get the boosters. If you got one dose, don't get the second. If you didn't get any, don't get any. That's pretty much what Fr. Spyridon told me when I asked him about a year ago, and I think Fr. Savvas on Mount Athos said the same thing after telling the story of the Elder who took it, repented, and regained his grace. I'm never getting a jab for new diseases like this again. Lord have mercy on us.

I think the animosity isn't with the fellow Christians like yourself who fell for the hoax but with the NPC's screaming death and murder at the ones who saw through the sharade and didn't take the poison shot but ended up losing their jobs and in some cases their families.

Forgiving them is the hardest part.
 

orthoguy

Chicken
Orthodox
I think the animosity isn't with the fellow Christians like yourself who fell for the hoax but with the NPC's screaming death and murder at the ones who saw through the sharade and didn't take the poison shot but ended up losing their jobs and in some cases their families.

Forgiving them is the hardest part.

I imagine there's also an element of stress among converts whose families are not Orthodox and took the jab. I'm not worried about myself for the reasons I outlined above: Christ enters into my joints, my reins, my heart.

But especially for those who do not have that, it's a lot scarier. Of course, God controls everything, not just the lives of the Orthodox, but it's definitely more ambiguous and frightening. Especially if your family is still taking the jabs as they come out.
 
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