The victim of Columbia's resident false accuser/psycho mattress girl speaks out.

[zombiejimmorrison]

"False reports of rape are rare, many experts say" haha more like 50% of them are fake and motivated by revenge

 

[eljeffster]

Once I saw the guy was German I started to think: 1) some, if not all these girls are vegan and 2) could this have anything to do with them realizing they had been enjoying some Bratwurst?

 

[The Father]

Well...I'd say it's over him once he graduates, but it's not, it never will be.

One quick Google search and he's fucked.

Why he isn't suing the fuck out this attention whoring bitter pumped and dumped bitch is beyond me.

I also don't understand that. Surely there are MRA attorneys who'd like to make an example of this, and shut down this "false rape" industry once and for all.

Unless, of course, none of them would take the case because the dude is guilty :/ But my gut tells me no. Too many of these stories sound the same. And here, exactly, is what they sound like:

"I NEED ATTENTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU'RE NOT GIVING IT TO MEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I WILL CRY WOLF 1,000X A DAY UNTIL I GET SOME DAMN ATTENTIONNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

[Ensam]

"False reports of rape are rare, many experts say" haha more like 50% of them are fake and motivated by revenge

Here's how that SJW math works:
Study shows that 3/1000 men are accused of rape falsely. Then they take the 20% of women in college are raped figure and say, see, only 3/1000 false rape accusations and 200/1000 real rapes, thus only ~1.5% of rape claims are false.

I blame new math:

So simple only a child can do it.

 

[The Father]

In Salem in the 1690s, there were people burned at the stake because multiple accusers came forward and said they were witches.

We learned later the multiple accusers were wrong.

No, no, Dusty - they weren't "wrong". They were LYING.

Same as today...

 

[Slim Shady]

^The "New Math" he makes fun of is actually the correct way to do the math, because you DO need to learn what you are doing. Real math and Physics are more about the process.

I skipped over the base 8 stuff or w/e. But the first new technique he talks about in the first half is correct. The early stuff is BS only taught in America...which is not so good at math.

 

[Hades]

I did not know that the "Party Mattress" was an art piece and her "Thesis" as well. The fact that her degree is tied to this is total garbage.

I wish my thesis could have been like that....holding up a mattress I found in residence hall. PS no way that thing is 50lbs.

Yeah a college "matress" is like fifteen pounds of kleenex and splooge.

^The "New Math" he makes fun of is actually the correct way to do the math, because you DO need to learn what you are doing. Real math and Physics are more about the process.

I skipped over the base 8 stuff or w/e. But the first new technique he talks about in the first half is correct. The early stuff is BS only taught in America...which is not so good at math.

I'm not so sure about that.
I can imagine that they came up with the 'new math' method of carrying ten ones back from the next power of ten because the original method is pretty confusing.

 

[MMX2010]

But also: it is right and appropriate to show some emotion in the face of these dreadful lies.

I didn't mind seamus' argument, but I'm glad he got 3 day banned for making it. I can also clarify why we need to feel rage at these witch hunts, but let me clarify that I'm not a lawyer nor have I deeply studied law. I merely respect the professionalism and devotion that being a good lawyer requires. So if any lawyers, particular Sp5, disagree with my assessment, please let me know where I'm wrong.

FACT #1 - Legal disputes center around both semantics, (the specific definitions of laws), and feelings-of-being-wronged.

FACT #2 - The most heinous crimes, (in this case, rape), require extremely precise definitions AND extremely well-conducted trials in order to ensure that the rule-of-law prevails.

OPINION #1 and #2 - The rule-of-law exists to preserve two crucial ideas: (a) That it's better for ten guilty men to go free than for one innocent man to be wrongfully punished. (b) Proportionality, defined as "the appropriate level of punishment in response to all wrong-doings", is required for all civilized societies.

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Seamus' argument centered around the idea that "Nussburger must've done something wrong, because three women accused him of crimes." But the phrase "has done something wrong" is extremely imprecise.

"Having bad game", (even if that's what Nussberger did), is non a criminal offense. So when women accuse such men of rape, they are undermining the rule-of-law by rejecting BOTH: (1) the importance of precise definitions for heinous crimes like rape AND (2) the importance of proportionality.

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Ultimately, and this is NOT hyperbole, these women and their SJW supporters are literally threatening two extremely important pillars of civilization. So in any discussion of "rape culture", the threat to civilization is the most important thing we should focus on.

 

[Hades]

But also: it is right and appropriate to show some emotion in the face of these dreadful lies.

Ultimately, and this is NOT hyperbole, these women and their SJW supporters are literally threatening two extremely important pillars of civilization. So in any discussion of "rape culture", the threat to civilization is the most important thing we should focus on.

My guess is that he slighted three women, maybe he didn't compliment and cuddle them enough. Mattress girl got really pissed off about it so she met up with two of his other slam pieces because she knew that one lone accusation is much less damning that three.

She convinced the other two whores that this man is a rapist, and they went along with it for a few weeks or months until they believed keeping up with the charade was no longer worth it.

What Nussberger has to do to clear his name is collude with the other two whores and get them to denounce Mattress Girl and recant their statements. Very unlikely since these women have to admit they were lying, but that's how I see it.

TL: DR, it might not have been bad game at the crux, just one lone crazy bitch capitalizing on an easily manipulated situation.

 

[Suits]

In Salem in the 1690s, there were people burned at the stake because multiple accusers came forward and said they were witches.

We learned later the multiple accusers were wrong.

Those "multiple accusers" were usually "multiple women."

 

[MMX2010]

But also: it is right and appropriate to show some emotion in the face of these dreadful lies.

Ultimately, and this is NOT hyperbole, these women and their SJW supporters are literally threatening two extremely important pillars of civilization. So in any discussion of "rape culture", the threat to civilization is the most important thing we should focus on.

My guess is that he slighted three women, maybe he didn't compliment and cuddle them enough. Mattress girl got really pissed off about it so she met up with two of his other slam pieces because she knew that one lone accusation is much less damning that three.

She convinced the other two whores that this man is a rapist, and they went along with it for a few weeks or months until they believed keeping up with the charade was no longer worth it.

What Nussberger has to do to clear his name is collude with the other two whores and get them to denounce Mattress Girl and recant their statements. Very unlikely since these women have to admit they were lying, but that's how I see it.

TL: DR, it might not have been bad game at the crux, just one lone crazy bitch.

Agree with you. The ultimate solution is to disallow any campus authorities to investigate any rape claims. (Basically, Police or She Didn't Get Raped.)

But we all need to perform important political work to get this solution implemented. It won't just magically happen.

 

[Hades]

But also: it is right and appropriate to show some emotion in the face of these dreadful lies.

Ultimately, and this is NOT hyperbole, these women and their SJW supporters are literally threatening two extremely important pillars of civilization. So in any discussion of "rape culture", the threat to civilization is the most important thing we should focus on.

My guess is that he slighted three women, maybe he didn't compliment and cuddle them enough. Mattress girl got really pissed off about it so she met up with two of his other slam pieces because she knew that one lone accusation is much less damning that three.

She convinced the other two whores that this man is a rapist, and they went along with it for a few weeks or months until they believed keeping up with the charade was no longer worth it.

What Nussberger has to do to clear his name is collude with the other two whores and get them to denounce Mattress Girl and recant their statements. Very unlikely since these women have to admit they were lying, but that's how I see it.

TL: DR, it might not have been bad game at the crux, just one lone crazy bitch.

Agree with you. The ultimate solution is to disallow any campus authorities to investigate any rape claims. (Basically, Police or She Didn't Get Raped.)

But we all need to perform important political work to get this solution implemented. It won't just magically happen.

I'm not a fan of cops but that is a great solution. Campuses should have no authority whatsoever on criminal cases, potential or otherwise.

I was privy to a few "sexual assault incidents" in college where a woman claimed to have been raped.

One instance in particular we spent like three hours convincing some dumb drunk girl to go to the cops and press charges and she refused. She ended up going to campus authorities and it raised hell with our entire social circle, a bunch of us dudes got campus MIPs and probation for "procuring alcohol to minors" because one of the girls who walked in and out of the party happened to be underage. One of the guys got banned for life from the campus but nobody was sure he actually did anything, lease of all the 'victim', who was passed out.

None of us believed that the rape happened, partly because the time frame makes no sense. If just cops got involved it would probably have been dismissed for lack of evidence.

I know that our campus did not want cops anywhere because it would make the place look more dangerous on paper.

 

[Suits]

^^^I don't even understand how it isn't obligatory for campus authorities to make a report to the police whenever a student claims rape.

I worked as a member of a university safety mechanism and it wasn't even a question. If a rape accusation was made, the cops would be called (this barely ever happened). If an under-aged student was drunk, the school would handle it, but if they got behind the wheel of a car while under the influence and became a danger to the general public, the police would be called.

If the school was the primary victim (bookstore shoplifting) of a crime by a student, they would deal with it internally. However, if in the course of the investigation, they discovered that they student was hocking merchandise on Ebay from retail stores around town, the police would be called.

Even if a student was abusing the public good by using a doctored handicapped permit to give themselves advantageous parking, the police would be called in to write the $500 ticket, because the campus process of $50 handicapped parking tickets wasn't sufficient to punish them for this behaviour.

I don't understand how schools think that their kangaroo courts sufficient to deal with serious crimes like rape. They only reason that it even flies at all, is because they aren't dealing with serious crimes like rape. They are dealing with cases of alleged sexual discretion, where someone's feelings were hurt and not much more.

 

[Deluge]

We need some "mandatory minimum" sentences for false rape allegations. Prove someone lied about getting raped? Boom at least five years in jail, no exceptions.

 

[zombiejimmorrison]

We need some "mandatory minimum" sentences for false rape allegations. Prove someone lied about getting raped? Boom at least five years in jail, no exceptions.

This 100 times, if your reputation as man can get sullied so horribly from one of these harpies, their needs to be a balance

 

[tallandblonde]

We need some "mandatory minimum" sentences for false rape allegations. Prove someone lied about getting raped? Boom at least five years in jail, no exceptions.

This 100 times, if your reputation as man can get sullied so horribly from one of these harpies, their needs to be a balance

But but but but but this will stop "victims" from coming forward!

The real victim here is the guy who has been thrown under the bus by these crazy spiteful bitches. The one girl Emma is a crazy delusional bitch that had consensual sex with him once and then got mad because he pumped and dumped.

I'm guessing in the case of the other girl who is claiming "intimate partner violence," it went something like this:

Him: Hey babe, wanna have sex?
Her: Nah, I'm not feeling it at the moment.
Him: Aww come on babe.
Her: Ok fine.

And in the case of the 3rd girl, I hardly consider groping at a frat party to be anything worth talking about.

To all girls: report rape right after it happens, because if you don't, I won't believe you and there will be no evidence to back up your possibly made up story. I have no sympathy for women that can't gather the courage to take a rapist off the streets and only thinks to speak up a year later.

 

[TonySandos]

In all fairness guys, this talk of harsh punishments for false rape claims goes in line with the same train of thought that finds the "guilty until proven innocent" thinking acceptable.

My concern is that legitimate rapes without a bow on top of the evidence will turn around to bite those women in the ass as false rape accusations. We're the civil minded party of culture war, not the social justice warriors.

I was molested as a child and I know this for certain because I am a witness to it happening with my own eyes. It was dismissed in court because of the timeline(my parents didn't find out until a year later) and there was no physical evidence to support the claim. Similar situations do actually take place in rape claims. Should anyone lacking evidence be charged with false accusation? That seems almost as reckless as these Cosby style accusations because "numbers are on our side, so it must be true!".


Before some numbnut accuses me of sjw'ing... please look through my other responses where I defend men being falsely accused.

 

[zombiejimmorrison]

^^
In all fairness guys, this talk of harsh punishments for false rape claims goes in line with the same train of thought that finds the "guilty until proven innocent" thinking acceptable.

No it doesn't, false rape chargers should have repercussions, it wastes everyone's time, money and reputation.

My concern is that legitimate rapes without a bow on top of the evidence will turn around to bite those women in the ass as false rape accusations. We're the civil minded party of culture war, not the social justice warriors.

Legitimate rapes are minuscule about 0.1 percent of the population actually go through them and even less from a stranger.

I was molested as a child and I know this for certain because I am a witness to it happening with my own eyes. It was dismissed in court because of the timeline(my parents didn't find out until a year later) and there was no physical evidence to support the claim. Similar situations do actually take place in rape claims. Should anyone lacking evidence be charged with false accusation? That seems almost as reckless as these Cosby style accusations because "numbers are on our side, so it must be true!".


That's bad, but we're talking about the current rape hysteria that can get men fucked over for nothing. Judges and courts aren't going to hand out false rape chargers on accusers like candy, unless they actually find out for certain its false.

 

[TonySandos]

"That's bad, but we're talking about the current rape hysteria that can get men fucked over for nothing. Judges and courts aren't going to hand out false rape chargers on accusers like candy, unless they actually find out for certain its false."

You mean they won't hand them out like candy...like the current rape accusations are being handed out and handled as?

Come on guys think. More formal legalities aren't the answer to this. I understand that false rape accusations are a scourge to sexual relations. I live under the same threat as you.

The answer isn't a draconian eye for a draconian eye. Making a law a law is always potentially dangerous because the legal system is based on precedence. Once a ruling goes a certain way, it has to be enforced in similar manor until the supreme court overturns or amends it somehow, if ever.

Scare the daylights out of these women with civil suits and shaming just like any other reckless liar. Yes, there should be some sort of legal implication for this, but getting a felony long charge over what could have been an actual victim in a situation is troubling to ponder.
This nations aptitude for institutionalizing people for long periods in nonviolent crimes isn't shown to be rehabilitative.


"Legitimate rapes are minuscule about 0.1 percent of the population actually go through them and even less from a stranger."

Where are you getting this number from?

 

[MMX2010]

^^^^^

I agree with Tony Sandos, and disagree with zombiejimmorrison.

You don't need to sentence false rape accusers to jail to severely reduce the number of false accusations. You only need to (1) prevent all college campuses from having any form of informal rape trials and (2) treat with extreme skepticism and/or public shaming any article whose author states, "I was raped." even though her accused rapist was never convicted.

So when Bejooli Shah said, "I was raped", she should've been treated with extreme skepticism and/or public shaming because she never even reported her rapist to the police. (No police report, no trial, no conviction - so no rape.)

And when another chick says, "I was raped!", even though she reported it to the police, she should be treated the same way. (No trial, no conviction - so no rape).

And when a third chick says, "I was raped!", even though her rapist was acquitted at trial, she should be treated the same way. (No conviction - so no rape.)