pitbullowner said:
It will be interesting to see how the GOP plays this because it really shines a spotlight on them.
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It will be interesting to see how the GOP plays this because it really shines a spotlight on them.
Dusty said:
As above said, this isn't enough.
The GOP/Trump can still win Virginia if they embrace this grassroots 2A movement, it's still possible to win Virginia if you go full demographics.
Virginia has always been a bit of beta tester for full blown conflict, Revolution, Civil War. Now it's going to be the blueprint for the end of individual rights, other states will follow suit
VNvet
Kingfisher
Emancipator said:
That's a cute boomer meme. However, voting doesn't mean anything in the US.
At best, it's voting for controlled opposition shill #1 or controlled opposition shill #2.
At worst, your vote doesn't even count; politicians are simply selected (I find this much more likely).
Do you really think corrupt bureaucrats wouldn't tamper with the voting system?
And this part of the picture:
"And if you can't possess the weapons a militia would need to force us out, of office,..."
Seriously? A militia is going to force the government out of office? That's not how revolutions work in the real world. It seems most of you live in a fantasyland.
Revolutions in the real world, not false flag uprisings (ex. Bundy Ranch), always come from the top-down. An elite group wants power, so they rile up the goyim to overthrow the current ruling elite (ex. every communist revolution, French Revolution). They used violence in the past, but in modern times, they have focused on cultural methods.
I'll give you another hint.
If the government views something as a threat to there power, then they outlaw it. We only have guns and voting because they pose absolutely no threat to the ruling elite.
The gun industry also makes a lot of money for the ruling elite - it seems unlikely they'll actually outlaw it. It's better for them if the goyim think owning 30 AR-15s, multiple Glocks, and 6 million rounds of Remmington ammo will help during the eternally impending boogaloo.
VNvet said:Emancipator said:
That's a cute boomer meme. However, voting doesn't mean anything in the US.
At best, it's voting for controlled opposition shill #1 or controlled opposition shill #2.
At worst, your vote doesn't even count; politicians are simply selected (I find this much more likely).
Do you really think corrupt bureaucrats wouldn't tamper with the voting system?
And this part of the picture:
"And if you can't possess the weapons a militia would need to force us out, of office,..."
Seriously? A militia is going to force the government out of office? That's not how revolutions work in the real world. It seems most of you live in a fantasyland.
Revolutions in the real world, not false flag uprisings (ex. Bundy Ranch), always come from the top-down. An elite group wants power, so they rile up the goyim to overthrow the current ruling elite (ex. every communist revolution, French Revolution). They used violence in the past, but in modern times, they have focused on cultural methods.
I'll give you another hint.
If the government views something as a threat to there power, then they outlaw it. We only have guns and voting because they pose absolutely no threat to the ruling elite.
The gun industry also makes a lot of money for the ruling elite - it seems unlikely they'll actually outlaw it. It's better for them if the goyim think owning 30 AR-15s, multiple Glocks, and 6 million rounds of Remmington ammo will help during the eternally impending boogaloo.
Agree, voting is useless for the right wing due to demographics. That's why it's better to balkanize and secede. Without guns it's a pipedream. Keep telling yourself that guns are ineffective against government ruling over you.
VNvet
Kingfisher
[email protected] said:
You missed my point. Voting is useless because you're voting for controlled opposition shills.
Can you tell me what tyranny guns have prevented?
We're approaching literal state-enforced homosexuality, but at least you have your guns.
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VNvet said:
Voting is useless because everyone is allowed to vote.
Guns are the only thing preventing further degeneracy. They are subverting your nation now but once they move guns off the table they will stop subverting and just completely own you like a slave that has no recourse. I'm not saying guns are a cure all but not having it just makes everyone completely dependent on the state.
VNvet
Kingfisher
[email protected] said:
No, they aren't.
People, not guns, kill people.
People, not guns, prevent degeneracy.
Proof?
Gun ownership has been increasing... so has the degeneracy in society.
Again, can you tell me what degeneracy has been stopped because of gun ownership? When will people rise up with their gun$? Will it be when they put 11-year-old trannies on national TV?
Guess not.
It's quite humorous that the only right they truly allow in America is the ability to purchase a consumer product manufactured by multinational corporations. The government even allows people to protest the right to purchase this consumer product, but the government forbids any protest against Jews, faggots, trannies, feminists, or minorities.
Virtually everyone in a Western nation can lawfully get access to a bolt action rifle or break action shotgun which covers "extreme dissidence" from point blank to a thousand yards.
Vnet is correct that only the will to act is relevant. The French are further along the road to rebellion than the US is by a longshot. In many ways the magical AR15s are a hobble because in the minds of the American dissidents it reduces the matter to "huff and puff" or "full scale warfare". A protracted campaign of vandalism and harassment would be far more effective than a bunch of Fudds making life easy for the Feds by turning up on one day in one location like an inconvenient and short lived summer storm.
Meanwhile in France you have guys running street battles against the security forces with nary gun in sight but for the snipers in overwatch positions, and you can bet your ass that Macron's cronies are far more concerned for their wellbeing than their US equivalents who appear to be as safe as Hindu cows. Macron himself got egged at point blank by someone in a crowd who could have just as easily been carrying a home made single shot pistol, but they merely wanted to send a message not trigger a historic event.
I don't agree with Vnet that all is going according to plan, but the Right is certainly a lot dumber than they allow themselves to imagine and they're played by the elites just as expertly as the Left is.
Vnet is correct that only the will to act is relevant. The French are further along the road to rebellion than the US is by a longshot. In many ways the magical AR15s are a hobble because in the minds of the American dissidents it reduces the matter to "huff and puff" or "full scale warfare". A protracted campaign of vandalism and harassment would be far more effective than a bunch of Fudds making life easy for the Feds by turning up on one day in one location like an inconvenient and short lived summer storm.
Meanwhile in France you have guys running street battles against the security forces with nary gun in sight but for the snipers in overwatch positions, and you can bet your ass that Macron's cronies are far more concerned for their wellbeing than their US equivalents who appear to be as safe as Hindu cows. Macron himself got egged at point blank by someone in a crowd who could have just as easily been carrying a home made single shot pistol, but they merely wanted to send a message not trigger a historic event.
I don't agree with Vnet that all is going according to plan, but the Right is certainly a lot dumber than they allow themselves to imagine and they're played by the elites just as expertly as the Left is.
VNvet
Kingfisher
Leonard D Neubache said:
Yes, the Yellow Vests appear to be a leaderless, grassroots rebellion (as opposed to the Hong Kong protests). Honestly, a government revolution would be ineffective in our current society, which is probably why they romanticize them in Hollywood and constantly seed the Civil War scenario in the MSM. Anyone that proposes that as an endgame doesn't really understand how things work, or they get a paycheck from the system.
An effective revolution would have revolutionaries taking over the entertainment industry, the mainstream media, and the central banks (!). Those institutions, not the disposable actors they hire to LARP as politicians in the capital, run every non-African country on Earth.
The problem?
People don't know that, so they go after the libs, racists, fascists, communists, white people, Soros, the Rothschilds, or whoever. Of course, the system was designed with those traps. The real rulers all operate in the shadows.
Honestly, the best bet is to starve the system as much as possible, which is why I don't recommend purchasing an excessive amount of guns or boogaloo related stuff - it's a consumer trap. Minimalism is the best method. It probably has more impact than this circus organized by Philip Van Cleave, but it's hard, so people don't want to do it.
Men should also get right with God. Things will probably get tougher in the coming years.
Easy_C
Peacock
The France situation was caused by a very simple catalyst. Gas taxes Macron instituted pushed a significant number of grassroots people across the line from “barely making ends meet” to “not making ends meet”.
The difference can be very, very, tiny but it’s a world of difference because it means incentives change. Once that last straw is added it means that people now have a stronger incentive to break the social contract than they do to try to play within the rules.
Here in the US we’re benefiting from a “safe haven” effect as capital parks here to escape turmoil elsewhere but that won’t last. 40% of Americans don’t have enough savings to go a month so we’re one significant economic shock away from widespread civil unrest.
The difference can be very, very, tiny but it’s a world of difference because it means incentives change. Once that last straw is added it means that people now have a stronger incentive to break the social contract than they do to try to play within the rules.
Here in the US we’re benefiting from a “safe haven” effect as capital parks here to escape turmoil elsewhere but that won’t last. 40% of Americans don’t have enough savings to go a month so we’re one significant economic shock away from widespread civil unrest.
It's a blessing to have guns, but they alone are not enough. If God's hand is against you, you will not win. That's one of the lessons of the OT, where the Israelites sought alliances with foreign nations like Egypt or trusted in their might instead of returning to God. I think America is being punished for its sin.
One reason a will to act is not there is because men are soft (aka. effeminate) and have lost faith. I don't mean "will to act" as in starting a regional war, but just by saying enough to all this cultural degeneracy and demanding that society change. Soft men would rather be enslaved by their passions (i.e. porn sites, fornication, and entertainment).
One reason a will to act is not there is because men are soft (aka. effeminate) and have lost faith. I don't mean "will to act" as in starting a regional war, but just by saying enough to all this cultural degeneracy and demanding that society change. Soft men would rather be enslaved by their passions (i.e. porn sites, fornication, and entertainment).
Monday might get dicey.
What are the Republican state legislators in VA doing about this? Surely the legistature and senate aren't 100% democrat. If they are worth their salt (doubtfully as they are potiticians) they should be freaking out and also be carrying openly.
Last, should they engage in disobedience to show that they also think this law is unconstitutional? Yes. Back in 2012 when Wisconsin state democrats believed that the republicans were railroading de-unionization legislation they left the state and wouldn't return so that quorum couldn't be met to count the votes. It galvanized the protestors on their side who occupied the capital.
Last, should they engage in disobedience to show that they also think this law is unconstitutional? Yes. Back in 2012 when Wisconsin state democrats believed that the republicans were railroading de-unionization legislation they left the state and wouldn't return so that quorum couldn't be met to count the votes. It galvanized the protestors on their side who occupied the capital.
VNvet
Kingfisher
It_is_my_time said:
This is why you shouldn't attend false flag rallies organized by the government. It's allegedly organized by Philip Van Cleave, but that's not true - it's organized by the government. This picture tells you everything you need to know about the guy. What a perfect leader for 2A supporters!
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Anyone attending these kinds of rallies after Charlottesville is either not paying attention or part of the set-up. If anyone here is planning on doing that kind of thing, please understand: you have nothing to gain, it's not going to work, and the President won't lift a finger to pardon you if / when you get arrested in the course of defending yourself from Antifa or related groups. He has proven this already by simultaneously doing nothing to prosecute Antifa crime or defend those thrown in prison for trying to protect themselves from it. Ignore all the rhetoric about how much the GOP cares about you and your rights, you are just a pawn to them and once you're in prison, they will - at most - point it out and say "look how bad the left is!" while doing nothing to help you. The Left has this kind of action mapped out strategically and they've already rolled it out successfully, while the Right is both impotent at protecting you and incompetent at defending itself.
VNvet
Kingfisher
MichaelWitcoff said:
Antifa is a goon squad of methheads, trannies, children of college professors (sus), and other degenerates that the government sics on opponents, which is why they never go to jail. This really clicked when I follow Antifa/OWS around during a political convention... they were using Martz buses to move them from their camp to the event!
They even had someone checking names before allowing them on the bus.
It was humorous. A DHS agency was following the bus too. Someone should see if Antifa gets loaded on buses after this event...
Lace em up
Woodpecker
It wont be the everyday traffic cop doing confiscations. Sure they could be sent out to knock on doors and request you hand over your rifle, but they wont be kicking down doors. They will however report on citizens that refuse or respond in an "unfriendly" way.
Every well funded police department has SWAT style units that are made up of ex military and are highly trained men who basically sit around, train, and wait for a fight. They will not take kindly to Joe Sixpack and his buddies defying the law. God forbid Joe Sixpack defends his constitutional rights with force. These units will descend like locusts.
There was a well known case in Texas where an alphabet agency waged war on citizens defending their rights. These guys didnt give two shits if they were obeying the constitution. They had weeks to reconsider their stance. They were going to win the fight no matter. They ruthlessly raided with overwhelming force and killed women and children, not stopping until there was nothing but a pile of ash and rubble. Nobody, on either side, was ever convicted after evidence was "lost".
Never underestimate the mindlessness, ruthlessness, and overwhelming power of our militarized police forces.
Every well funded police department has SWAT style units that are made up of ex military and are highly trained men who basically sit around, train, and wait for a fight. They will not take kindly to Joe Sixpack and his buddies defying the law. God forbid Joe Sixpack defends his constitutional rights with force. These units will descend like locusts.
There was a well known case in Texas where an alphabet agency waged war on citizens defending their rights. These guys didnt give two shits if they were obeying the constitution. They had weeks to reconsider their stance. They were going to win the fight no matter. They ruthlessly raided with overwhelming force and killed women and children, not stopping until there was nothing but a pile of ash and rubble. Nobody, on either side, was ever convicted after evidence was "lost".
Never underestimate the mindlessness, ruthlessness, and overwhelming power of our militarized police forces.
