The Vivek Ramaswamy Thread

get2choppaaa said:
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Trump was challenged to start a war with Iran, but at least the left was not in favor of it, so there wasn't full court pressure like there is with Russia.

He still almost got us into a war by the way the murdered their general, for daring to attack ISIS, and we still can't say Iran will not seek out revenge for it when the time is right. We are not out of the woods on that one yet.
 
He is just a populist Indian dude just like Rishi Sunak. Don’t you see the discrepancy, an Indian immigrant is defending the most brutal anti-immigrant policies?
 
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This scenario where you get all excited about common sense things like "boys have a penis" and "covid is just the flu" and "The government of a country should govern on behalf of its people (America first)" is all part of the Hegelian Dialectic.

They create insane positions so that you can get excited by a contrarian saying the common sense thing, when actually that is nothing at all to get excited about. Just 10 years ago, every single politician on the planet would say "boys have a penis; girls have a vagina." It says nothing at all about their leadership.

Yeah it's nice to hear someone publicly defending people who are being abused and attacked in our society, when the whole system seems to have gone insane, but it's important to realize that these are basic things every peasant on the planet understands.

By the way, Enrique Tarrio was sentenced to 22 years in prison for Jan 6 and he wasn't even there... yes he is a fed informant so I don't have much sympathy but that's almost a death sentence for someone in their 30s or 40s.

Calling that out as an insane sentence doesn't make you some sort of based or awesome leader; it just means you're normal and have a >80 IQ.
 
It_is_my_time said:
Man, the satanic elites need to get this guy under control. He is speaking too many truths about the failure of the GOP as a whole.

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Right on Vivek. Mike Pence is a good man but he belongs in 2000, not 2023. We need more than honorable sounding platitudes about America's greatness and ideals..that's the impression I usually get from him. He belongs to the GOP of another era.
 
Enoch said:
How do we know he is a good man?
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I take him for what his public image and biography present him to be: a family man and committed Christian who appears to be guided by his conscience. That doesn't mean he deserves mine or anyone's support for President if he is wrong, ignorant, or out of touch.
 
JCSteel said:
I take him for what his public image and biography present him to be: a family man and committed Christian who appears to be guided by his conscience. That doesn't mean he deserves mine or anyone's support for President if he is wrong, ignorant, or out of touch.
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I don't think that makes you a good man. When you lie to the American people, when you use your office to undermine the will of the American Public (the leakers were all pence staff) and when you shill for foreign military intervention your personal situation is irrelevant to your "goodness".

If his conscience is guiding the above then hes got a broken time peace on that one.

Now do I think he's had multiple affairs like Trump. Nope...but that doesn't make him a good man...

Part of being a good man is being a good leader. He is not a leader in any sense of the word as far as I can tell... rather a follower of Con Inc demands.
 
JCSteel said:
I take him for what his public image and biography present him to be: a family man and committed Christian who appears to be guided by his conscience. That doesn't mean he deserves mine or anyone's support for President if he is wrong, ignorant, or out of touch.
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He's a man of restrained appetites and vices. That isn't the same thing as being good. For example, a lot of the most famous dictators were notoriously "trad" in how they lived their personal lives: no known affairs, no substance abuse, etc.
 
The absurdity of a foreign immigrant being a "conservative" leader of another nation is beyond ridiculous.

No matter how "based" you may be, imagine going to India or Sri Lanka or Iran and trying to tell them that you have the answer to their society, that you have some "conservative" values you are going to teach the people. It's impossible to overcome the internal inconsistency of being a foreigner inserted into their society, but then supposedly also a conservative person.

There is really no way an immigrant can ever be a conservative leader. The best they could do is to simply go along with the status quo standards of the society. Or you could do some sort of new system like traditional Muslims are doing in America with their anti-gayness, but that's a big difference from what America has been in the past, so that a sense it is anti-conservative even if it is opposing degeneracy.

There is something that really rubs me the wrong way when Vivek waxes poetic about the founders of America. Imagine going to India and preaching to them about what Ghandi would really want for them, and yeah vote for me the white guy to help you Become Who You Are. It's absurd.

It only works to the degree it does with Vivek because the Republican Party is such a failure in representing conservatism in any form. Think really hard about one positive thing conservative legislators have done in the past 20 years. I could more easily think of a Democratic accomplishment.
 
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Max Roscoe said:
The absurdity of a foreign immigrant being a "conservative" leader of another nation is beyond ridiculous.

No matter how "based" you may be, imagine going to India or Sri Lanka or Iran and trying to tell them that you have the answer to their society, that you have some "conservative" values you are going to teach the people. It's impossible to overcome the internal inconsistency of being a foreigner inserted into their society, but then supposedly also a conservative person.

There is really no way an immigrant can ever be a conservative leader. The best they could do is to simply go along with the status quo standards of the society. Or you could do some sort of new system like traditional Muslims are doing in America with their anti-gayness, but that's a big difference from what America has been in the past, so that a sense it is anti-conservative even if it is opposing degeneracy.

There is something that really rubs me the wrong way when Vivek waxes poetic about the founders of America. Imagine going to India and preaching to them about what Ghandi would really want for them, and yeah vote for me the white guy to help you Become Who You Are. It's absurd.

It only works to the degree it does with Vivek because the Republican Party is such a failure in representing conservatism in any form. Think really hard about one positive thing conservative legislators have done in the past 20 years. I could more easily think of a Democratic accomplishment.
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If only my parents had moved to New Delhi a few years before I was born, I could have been an Indian citizen and I would have ALL the answers for them to improve their society. Forget about invoking Gandhi, I'd be singing the praises of Mumtaz Mahal from Taj Mahal fame. They would love me! Indian friends, I get you, I really do, trust me.
 
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