The Vladimir Putin thread

rotekz

Ostrich
Gold Member
Mage said:
Please note that if Putin would really care about morailty then he would forbid import of western rap and pop in the first place, that is from where the degradation comes.
Is it not the case that banning something makes it more attractive? Putin is perhaps smart to leave it alone. With the superior themes already endemic in Russian rap I'm not seeing how there is an influence problem that needs fixing. Are Russians actually listening to Western junk music? Do they understand English lyrics? Perhaps they just ogle at the depravity in the videos?
 

Mage

 
rotekz said:
Mage said:
Please note that if Putin would really care about morailty then he would forbid import of western rap and pop in the first place, that is from where the degradation comes.
Is it not the case that banning something makes it more attractive? Putin is perhaps smart to leave it alone. With the superior themes already endemic in Russian rap I'm not seeing how there is an influence problem that needs fixing. Are Russians actually listening to Western junk music? Do they understand English lyrics? Perhaps they just ogle at the depravity in the videos?
You are trying to pull a strawman here arn't you? Why?

I am not advocating banning everything. There was a discussion on possible ban/restriction on Russian rap on accusations of it being immoral and I argumented that if something is immoral and could be banned for that reason it would be western pop/rap not Russian rap. I am not advocating banning anything actually, just pointing out the false premise for considering the ban/restriction.

Of course Russians understand English lyrics. The whole world understands English lyrics. You don't need high levels of English to understand "She is such a fucking whore. I love it." and "I am a sick fuck, I like a quick fuck" It's not Shakespeare. But that song teaches any kid with 4th grade English proficiency that loving whores for who they are is cool and a quick fuck is one of the priorities in life if you wanna be cool.
 

911

Peacock
Gold Member
CaptainChardonnay said:
911 said:
Those countries have been part of Greater Russia for centuries, and they also have large Russian Christian populations. It's vital for Russia to keep a strong influence over and good relations with their satellite countries in central Asia. Not the same situation in western Europe where there are no organic/historic ties predating modern colonial empires.

Putin gets the fact that pop music has been deliberately weaponized to demoralize and destroy societies. None are more dangerous and potent as rap, which dumbs down people and turns women into sexually degenerate hoes, it's like the fentanyl of degenerate musical genres. If you're interested in that subject I could provide links to serious red pill academic research on this subject.

It seems like the rulers of Russia and China are really looking out for the welfare of their people, these countries are run by former cadres of the communist system and have a deep understanding of the weaponization of culture as a powerful tool for subversion. In the West, leaders are either completely complicit with the globo-homo agenda, or they're dumb NPC neoliberal dupes who are oblivious to the destructive power of cultural subversion.
Post links
This is a very good start on the subject, Adam Green does a good job documenting the evil intent and perverse cultural dynamics behind the rap music industry, which has deliberately weaponized the genre in order to debase and profit from Black America and broader society. For instance it turns out a lot of music studio honchos had also invested in the prison industrial complex while pushing gangster rap:


On the more academic front, Hans Utter has done some great research pertaining to the psychological aspects of this mediun from a neurological and music science angle, I will add to this thread when I come across his material.
 

AManLikePutin

Kingfisher
Putin Thanks Women For Taking Care Of The Home And Staying Beautiful On International Women’s Day

Russian President Vladimir Putin congratulated Russian women for everything they do in life, like taking care of the home and staying beautiful. He made the remarks to a group of Russian female policewomen on International Women’s Day, which was celebrated throughout the Soviet Union.

“You manage everything at work and at home, whilst staying beautiful, bright, and charming,” Putin said, adding that “It is hard to imagine the history and development of our country without the contribution of the great Russian women.”

“What does a young woman need to maintain her figure? Three things: a workout machine, a masseuse and a suitor,” Putin told the police officers.

Putin also told the female police staff that when they patrol the city woodland parks, the number of accidents drops “because those who wish to commit suicide look at you and want to live again,” reported The Moscow Times.

“Our women’s ability to achieve success is remarkable. You manage to cope with everything at work and take care of the family. Your love unites, encourages, supports, consoles makes us feel warm,” reported Russian state news agency TASS on Putin’s official comments.

“You are destined to go the whole way of creating new life – the miracle of childbirth. This great happiness of motherhood and child-rearing transfigures this world, fills it with kindness, gentleness and sympathy and asserts the traditional values that have always made Russia strong,” Putin said.

“We shall be always indebted to you,” Putin said in his address to the women of the nation. “This is true of each of us and of the state in general, which remains obliged to do so much for the sake of those who spare no effort in rearing their children.

The Russian leader emphasized women’s immeasurable emotional generosity, wrote TASS.

“True, it is a gift of nature, but you, dear women, multiply this gift a hundred times with your attitude to work and your dear ones,” he said.

“You are reliable co-workers and managers of great responsibility. You are capable of feeling the subtlest nuances and taking a competent and creative attitude to any undertaking,” Putin said. “It is hard to imagine the history and development of our country without the creative contribution of the great women of Russia. These days there are no professional heights you are unable to achieve.”

https://tsarizm.com/news/eastern-eu...taying-beautiful-on-international-womens-day/
 

Once Was Not

Kingfisher
AManLikePutin said:
Putin Thanks Women For Taking Care Of The Home And Staying Beautiful On International Women’s Day

Russian President Vladimir Putin congratulated Russian women for everything they do in life, like taking care of the home and staying beautiful. He made the remarks to a group of Russian female policewomen on International Women’s Day, which was celebrated throughout the Soviet Union.

“You manage everything at work and at home, whilst staying beautiful, bright, and charming,” Putin said, adding that “It is hard to imagine the history and development of our country without the contribution of the great Russian women.”

“What does a young woman need to maintain her figure? Three things: a workout machine, a masseuse and a suitor,” Putin told the police officers.

Putin also told the female police staff that when they patrol the city woodland parks, the number of accidents drops “because those who wish to commit suicide look at you and want to live again,” reported The Moscow Times.

“Our women’s ability to achieve success is remarkable. You manage to cope with everything at work and take care of the family. Your love unites, encourages, supports, consoles makes us feel warm,” reported Russian state news agency TASS on Putin’s official comments.

“You are destined to go the whole way of creating new life – the miracle of childbirth. This great happiness of motherhood and child-rearing transfigures this world, fills it with kindness, gentleness and sympathy and asserts the traditional values that have always made Russia strong,” Putin said.

“We shall be always indebted to you,” Putin said in his address to the women of the nation. “This is true of each of us and of the state in general, which remains obliged to do so much for the sake of those who spare no effort in rearing their children.

The Russian leader emphasized women’s immeasurable emotional generosity, wrote TASS.

“True, it is a gift of nature, but you, dear women, multiply this gift a hundred times with your attitude to work and your dear ones,” he said.

“You are reliable co-workers and managers of great responsibility. You are capable of feeling the subtlest nuances and taking a competent and creative attitude to any undertaking,” Putin said. “It is hard to imagine the history and development of our country without the creative contribution of the great women of Russia. These days there are no professional heights you are unable to achieve.”

https://tsarizm.com/news/eastern-eu...taying-beautiful-on-international-womens-day/
Beautiful.


Meanwhile in United States of America we have this
and
Presidential Message on International Women’s Day, 2019
On International Women’s Day, we honor women worldwide for their vital role in shaping and strengthening our communities, families, governments, and businesses. We celebrate their vision, leadership, and courage, and we reaffirm our commitment to promoting equal opportunity for women everywhere.

Through the efforts of remarkable women trailblazers in the United States and around the world, we have made tremendous progress in the fight for equality and justice for all. My Administration has championed initiatives to promote women’s global economic empowerment through business, technology, and increased access to capital. These initiatives include the Women Entrepreneurs Finance Initiative, Canada–United States Council for Advancement of Women Entrepreneurs and Business Leaders, Overseas Private Investment Corporation’s 2X Women’s Initiative, and United States Agency for International Development’s WomenConnect Challenge.

This year, I signed a National Security Presidential Memorandum to launch the Women’s Global Development and Prosperity (W-GDP) Initiative. The W-GDP Initiative is structured to help at least 50 million women in developing countries fully and freely participate in their local economies by 2025. This historic initiative is the Federal Government’s first integrated approach to global women’s economic empowerment and a tremendous step in supporting women. The W-GDP Initiative is coordinating its efforts with individuals in the private sector, civil society, diplomatic community, and Congress to promote workforce development and skills training, improve access to capital, and implement reforms that enable greater economic participation. Women’s participation in the workforce, free of discrimination and injustice, results in safer, stronger, and freer nations.

As my Administration continues to support women around the globe, it is also fighting for women in the United States. Through the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, my Administration is providing tax relief to parents by doubling the child tax credit and preserving the child and dependent care credit. Thanks to our economic policies, women’s unemployment in the United States has reached the lowest level in 65 years and more than 2 million more women are working today than in November 2016.

As we recognize International Women’s Day, we acknowledge that when women are economically empowered they are able to invest more in their families and communities, producing a multiplier effect that spurs economic growth and contributes to global stability. We remain vigilant in our pursuit of equality and opportunity so that all women may blaze new trails, pursue their dreams, and reach their full potential.
 

Rocha

Ostrich
Gold Member
^^difference is that most Russian women love Putin, while most American women despise Trump, while nonetheless respecting Putin. So Trump has to cather for his audience.
 

Easy_C

Crow
911 said:
I need a bit of time to gather the research, will start a new thread later this winter on the weaponization of pop music as a tool for cultural subversion, the players behind this, and the neuro-psychological aspects involved.
I'd recommend Jan Irving's research into the topic.

Keep in mind Irving himself appears to be a narcissist/psychopath, but he's also extremely good at doing the research and mentions original sources (quotes/writings by the people involved themselves) backing up his assertions about how pop music shifted during the "hippy" era.

 
edlefou said:
beta_plus said:
A Russian YouTuber asks other Russians what they think of the USA. Pretty interesting.

Cool video, good snapshot of the Russian culture and you can see the high regard they have for the USA. Despite telling them to fuck off, most would all move there in a heartbeat.

Two things I found especially interesting were:

1) The chick who virtue signals about gays while the dude is against it. It shows women are the gateway to that degeneracy gaining ground in Russia.

2) Why do Russians think everyone else imagines the Russian stereotype to be a drunk bear playing a balalaika? I've heard this all over Russia, but nobody has that stereotype. Vodka-chugging tough guy men and hot gold-diggers are the common stereotypes. But drunk bear playing a balalaika? No. Nobody even knows what a balalaika is.

Not sure if Putin thread is the best place for this.
Even women who didn't talk about politics sounded incredibly dumb and spoiled. One wants the rouble higher , the other wants to visit Los Angeles.
I think cosmopolitan places like Moscow , even if still good places , are to be lost in the near future.

This video would have been interesting in 100k cities lost in the middle of Russia. I am sure women would have approved men's insults to the USA.
 

911

Peacock
Gold Member
^^ Really shows how young women are the homoglobo beachheads. Those 3-4 women pleading for LGBT and LA were a product of social engineering funded from Soros and his ilk.
 

beta_plus

Pelican
Good overview of Russian GeoPolitics

This just popped up on my youtube feed:


Apparently, Russia has their own Peter Zeihan, Aleksandr Dugin, who wrote a book called The Foundations of Geopolitics.

Sadly, it has not been translated into English.

It essentially spells out the nitty gritty of Peter Zeihan's thesis that Russia needs to reconquer its defensive points, most of which now lie outside of its territory.

 
I don't understand at all that rant about Dugin's book. It just seems like a weird fable of "Yeah, they're Russia, they just wanna take stuff over."

I don't even know what the purpose of it is.
 

beta_plus

Pelican
Russia is obsessed with being invaded

Kid Twist said:
I don't understand at all that rant about Dugin's book. It just seems like a weird fable of "Yeah, they're Russia, they just wanna take stuff over."

I don't even know what the purpose of it is.
Most of Russia's history is a story of invasion, from the Mongols to the Swedes to the French to the Germans. Its whole view of the world is filtered through this lens.

Russia cannot defend itself with its present geography. Many of the geographical choke points that it needs to do so are outside of its present territory. The collapse of the Soviet Union was a disaster for Russia since it left it exposed to invasion.

It takes a little getting used to, but Zeihan made a map of Russia's situation. The red parts are the geographical barriers Russia needs to control and the blue arrows are the routes of invasion between those barriers Russia needs to guard. The green parts are where one can grow wheat which Russia needs to defend. Note that there are usually huge and impossible to defend plains behind the line of defense.



Maybe I should have put the Zeihan video first. He explains Russia's problem brilliantly. I do not know how realistic Dugin's plan is, but it lines up perfectly with Zeihan's assessment. While the video says "taking over the world" for clicks, every part of the plan simply attempts to recapture at least one of the 9 of the blue arrows in the picture above.

One part of the video that I absolutely do know is true from the Mitrokhin archive, which is a large part of the KGB archive given to the MI5 by a KGB defector in the early 90s. It is that first the Soviet Union believed and now Russia believes that creating a civil war in the USA is in its best interest because it will leave Europe and East Asia undefended by the US military.

The Democrats are absolutely right that Russia tried to interfere in the 2016 election. However, they never mention that Russia (and before it the Soviets) has done so for decades. What made 2016 different was that they could use social media to massively amplify their traditional tactics of trying to tear the USA apart, especially racially. Ever heard the urban legend that the CIA developed AIDS to kill blacks? That was created by the KGB back in the 1980s in hopes of creating more racial division and hopefully a race war in the USA. As well, the Dems lost badly and looked for any excuse, which the digital trail of Russia provided a very good one.
 
beta_plus said:
One part of the video that I absolutely do know is true from the Mitrokhin archive, which is a large part of the KGB archive given to the MI5 by a KGB defector in the early 90s. It is that first the Soviet Union believed and now Russia believes that creating a civil war in the USA is in its best interest because it will leave Europe and East Asia undefended by the US military.
I do not doubt this.

So the implication is that if the US is at each other's throats, then they'll sound the horns to take back the FSU states?
 
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