Ah yes, the infamous Roosh V Washington DC press conference. Does that video still survive somewhere? Seems to have disappeared in the Unjust YouTube Purge.
I haven’t listened a single word he’s said since I saw that. I wasn’t a Trinitarian for my first few years as a Christian, and I understand that can be a long journey for some people. But the things Owen said are absolutely demonic.
And just to make things clear for those who continue to falsely assert that I am an Armenian, an Arminian, an Arian, an Athanasian, or anything else, I will not hesitate to take anyone's witch test.
I believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of all things visible and invisible.
And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, begotten of the Father, Light of Light, very God of very God, begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father; by whom all things were made; who for us men, and for our salvation, came down and was incarnate and was made man; he suffered, and the third day he rose again, ascended into heaven; from thence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead.
And in the Holy Ghost.
So if anyone asks you what I believe, you can tell them that. Verbatim. Although if I had written it, I would have added the words "and died on the Cross" after "suffered". I also prefer "Spirit" to "Ghost", but that's merely personal preference.
No fan of Owen. It appears to me that his form celebrity status didn't work out for him or reached its limit. Instead he rebranded himself to capture a different and concentrated audience.It seems you have a personal grudge against him that is impairing your judgment. He was making enough money as a comedian to purchase a Hollywood pad.
Vox Day is not a Christian.
Christians believe in The Trinity.
Vox Day does not believe in The Trinity.
Therefore Vox Day is not a Christian.
And a more recent post of his here:
He does not believe in the Trinity.
He is not a Christian for the same reason Mitt Romney is not a Christian. He could be a very nice guy in person, but he is not a Christian. Without the Trinity, The Lord is a mere man, The Lord may be the greatest-man-evah!!11!, but under Vox Day's belief's, The Lord is not God. Man cannot save man. The Church already made the determination that Arius was wrong, and Vox Day's belief's are most in line with Arius' beliefs.
In post 630 quoted above, I think it says a lot that he writes "very God of very God..." I wonder if he is even capable of saying "Jesus Christ is God." He will say everything else... BUT THAT. I don't trust Vox Day because of that, and I wonder what "spirit" is really influencing him.
Vox Day is unsaved, he believes in (and is preaching) a false-christ, and his immortal soul is in serious jeopardy.
It should not escape one's attention that if one insists on clinging to the doctrine of the Trinity, it is necessary to abandon the doctrine of divine omniscience. Obviously, I subscribe to neither, but it is not possible to subscribe to both.
I don't think that's fair to say. When I followed him more closely he did a stream where he said he considers God to be akin to a more powerful video game developer who, if he wants to, can pause the game and find out whatever he wants to know about it. I still strongly disagree with that, as it of course denies his complete omniscience and omnipresence, but I do not think that is polytheist, or at a bare minimum that is not his intention.VD isn't a Christian, he's a straight-up polytheist! I don't see how he could make any rational argument in favor of God over Thor or Dumuzi or any other pagan deity. The dude is a living argument against personal interpretation of Scripture. For all of his self-promotion as some kind of intellectual powerhouse he absolutely fails at basic reasoning.
I don't think that's fair to say. When I followed him more closely he did a stream where he said he considers God to be akin to a more powerful video game developer who, if he wants to, can pause the game and find out whatever he wants to know about it. I still strongly disagree with that, as it of course denies his complete omniscience and omnipresence, but I do not think that is polytheist, or at a bare minimum that is not his intention.
is, at the very least, a cultural Christian with some theological shortcomings.