The Vox Day thread

Trewolla

Woodpecker
Protestant
What are you claiming here? That Vox is actually lying and you can read his mind or that I am making it up?

How many elderly people were left on ventilators to die during covid? How many have died due to poor care in nursing homes because their children can't stand them and don't want to take care of them?
I'm claiming that Vox Day is filled with hate for a generation (my generation) yet he claims to be a Christian.
 

bucky

Hummingbird
Other Christian
I find it more than a bit humorous that Vox has reached a state of age and baldness that he's considered a "Boomer" by many Millennials and Zoomers.

I warned him more that 10 years ago,...when he started his anti Boomer rants,..that if they ever came to fruition, he would be of an age to be at ground zero to catch the brunt of it.

Vox is a bright guy. But he lacks foresight.

He needs to have hair if he's going to be calling for attacks on old people.
I'm Gen X. I do find it funny when Vox and others of my generation go hard on the Boomers because it makes me think they've never actually talked to the younger generations who, as you note, basically consider us Boomers too.
 

bucky

Hummingbird
Other Christian
Seems like it's the black people who always beat up on old whitey. Vincent James always puts up videos.

I can't see asians or Indians getting into that. But who knows, white privledge is pretty upsetting. I think immigrants feel sorry for old white people dying in homes. I could see shitty care, but not the pillow.
It depends. I volunteered at a rest home for a while. There was a lot of staff from Africa, as the stereotype goes. Most seemed like pretty decent people, but I'd say that overall conditions were not good and it was a terrible place. Incidentally, I love my Boomer parents and have told them repeatedly that I'd much prefer they move in with my family instead of going to a rest home.
 

Carolus

Sparrow
Protestant
I'm claiming that Vox Day is filled with hate for a generation (my generation) yet he claims to be a Christian.

First he wanted you dead and I was being dishonest, now he just doesn't like you. Well guess what, he's very open about that fact. Disliking annoying people is not the same as wanting to kill them with a pillow, however.

You accuse me of peddling B.S. and yet you just moved the goal post. I will repeat: Day of the pillow explicitly refers to boomers dying in old folks homes under the care of diversity hires. I'd like to point out that he's been talking about this long before corrupt hospitals deliberately left thousands of elderly to die on ventilators. Watch some of the testimony from whistleblowing nurses who worked in NY hospitals.

The reason why you think Vox is saying something awful when he talks about day of the pillow is because you can't get over yourself. Do your kids hate you? Are you in a nursing home filled with immigrant staff who hate you? No? Well then, what's the problem?

To you criticism of the boomer generation as a whole = personal attack. But, if you're not like the other girls, why should criticism of your generation bother you? My parents are boomers but they don't take it personally. But then they also don't try to claim that they're amazing all the time on internet forums and talk about all the hunting they did and how when they were my age they built an entire car themselves using hard work and bubble gum.

I don't get upset when people bash millennials. In fact, I bash millennials (and myself by extension) all the time.

It depends. I volunteered at a rest home for a while. There was a lot of staff from Africa, as the stereotype goes. Most seemed like pretty decent people, but I'd say that overall conditions were not good and it was a terrible place. Incidentally, I love my Boomer parents and have told them repeatedly that I'd much prefer they move in with my family instead of going to a rest home.

I don't think anyone has ever asserted that all rest home staff from Africa abuse their patients... The problem is that the percentage who do it is much higher than from other demographics. Everyone at my grandmother's retirement home (she's there by choice and my parents have tried to talk her into moving in with them many times) is lovely.
 

bucky

Hummingbird
Other Christian
What is this referencing? Is the kid supposed to be smothering his Boomer grandfather under that huge pillow? Guys here who follow Vox more closely than I do said he doesn't support that kind of thing and it doesn't look like there's actually anyone under the pillow, but I also can't think of anything else it could be referencing. Maybe I'm just not getting it.

 

Carolus

Sparrow
Protestant
What is this referencing? Is the kid supposed to be smothering his Boomer grandfather under that huge pillow? Guys here who follow Vox more closely than I do said he doesn't support that kind of thing and it doesn't look like there's actually anyone under the pillow, but I also can't think of anything else it could be referencing. Maybe I'm just not getting it.

It is a meme. Are we the left now and going to selectively take jokes literally? :rolleyes:
 

Thomas More

Crow
Protestant
It is a meme. Are we the left now and going to selectively take jokes literally? :rolleyes:
Vox isn't posting things like this repeatedly to voice his opposition to the idea. On the other hand, he doesn't come right out and call for grandsons to smother their grandfathers, keeping the pillow in place for a few extra minutes to make sure.

He's more of a wink wink nudge nudge guy, trying to keep putting the idea in front of people repeatedly until it sticks. However, he makes some effort at plausible deniablity. It's not quite working for me. It appears to me he would be pleased if statistics show this kind of thing happening.
 

Carolus

Sparrow
Protestant
Vox isn't posting things like this repeatedly to voice his opposition to the idea. On the other hand, he doesn't come right out and call for grandsons to smother their grandfathers, keeping the pillow in place for a few extra minutes to make sure.

He's more of a wink wink nudge nudge guy, trying to keep putting the idea in front of people repeatedly until it sticks. However, he makes some effort at plausible deniablity. It's not quite working for me.

Are you truly claiming that he wants people to kill their grandparents with pillows and his posts are dogwhistles?

It appears to me he would be pleased if statistics show this kind of thing happening.

Yes, the 'death by grandkid with pillow per capita report' just came out and it's staggering!

Any criticism or mockery is met with the most ridiculous overreaction and fragility. I'd say try a little humility, but I suppose that shouldn't be asked from members of the g-g-g-g-g-greatest generation.
 

Thomas More

Crow
Protestant
Are you truly claiming that he wants people to kill their grandparents with pillows and his posts are dogwhistles?



Yes, the 'death by grandkid with pillow per capita report' just came out and it's staggering!

Any criticism or mockery is met with the most ridiculous overreaction and fragility. I'd say try a little humility, but I suppose that shouldn't be asked from members of the g-g-g-g-g-greatest generation.
Yes. I'm sure he would deny it, but I judge him by what he says and does. He's is promoting the killing of boomers very aggressively. He hates all boomers very badly, in a deeply un-Christian way. A few years back, he was only highly critical of boomers. But now all his posts on the subject are about killing boomers.

You would be able to recognize it very easily if this was Antifa posting the exact same things about Trump voters.
 
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bucky

Hummingbird
Other Christian
Are you truly claiming that he wants people to kill their grandparents with pillows and his posts are dogwhistles?



Yes, the 'death by grandkid with pillow per capita report' just came out and it's staggering!

Any criticism or mockery is met with the most ridiculous overreaction and fragility. I'd say try a little humility, but I suppose that shouldn't be asked from members of the g-g-g-g-g-greatest generation.
You didn't ask me, but I think it's clear that Vox at least wouldn't lose much sleep over a few Boomers being murdered just for being born before 1965 (I think that's considered the cut off).

I just looked up Vox's year of birth and hadn't realized until I did that he's a few years older than I am, and very close to being a Baby Boomer himself. Like I said above, if you're Gen X and you spend much time at all interacting with the younger generations, you quickly realize that they see little difference between us older Gen Xers and the Boomers and frequently call us Boomers too. It is what it is, and I stopped correcting them a while ago. I don't know why Vox seems unaware of this, maybe he's built a bit of an echo chamber around himself in his zeal for banning "gammas."

Even if Vox weren't a de facto Boomer himself, his frequent talk of murder based on year of birth is pretty out there and unpleasant.
 

7-5

Pigeon
Other Christian
I'm very aware of Vox Day's rhetoric. I'm quite sure that I've been reading his content much longer than you have.

Ok, millennial.

Woodstock was something on the TV. We didn't much relate to it.

Vox Day is always welcome to stroll down here and talk his trash to them.

I was just trying to figure out if it was something other than a joke about murdering Boomers. I'm guessing that's the joke, then.

It's not quite working for me. It appears to me he would be pleased if statistics show this kind of thing happening.

Is this it? A man guides youth to this sphere and even though he has an ax to grind with your generation, *this* is the response younger types get when they display their issues?

'I'd like to see him come down here and say that!'
'Don't spread his lies, it's beneath you!'
'Ok boo- err, Millennial!'

Where are my elders who are meant to direct and guide me?
Where are the intelligent and responsible arch-conservatives who won't give in to personal attacks?

You might all claim to say there's nuggets of truth and guidance in your posts, but I've been through faulty parenting before: real teachers do not denigrate in one sentence and give 'lessons' in the next.

Your other posts might be well thought out and intelligent but the conduct in the last few posts has put me firmly in Vox's camp.

This was an opportunity to guide some young men. All you've done is move them further from you.
 

Thomas More

Crow
Protestant
Is this it? A man guides youth to this sphere and even though he has an ax to grind with your generation, *this* is the response younger types get when they display their issues?

'I'd like to see him come down here and say that!'
'Don't spread his lies, it's beneath you!'
'Ok boo- err, Millennial!'

Where are my elders who are meant to direct and guide me?
Where are the intelligent and responsible arch-conservatives who won't give in to personal attacks?

You might all claim to say there's nuggets of truth and guidance in your posts, but I've been through faulty parenting before: real teachers do not denigrate in one sentence and give 'lessons' in the next.

Your other posts might be well thought out and intelligent but the conduct in the last few posts has put me firmly in Vox's camp.

This was an opportunity to guide some young men. All you've done is move them further from you.
Are you saying we should overlook the offensive things he says, or would you say they aren't even offensive, and really it's just innocent humor?

To some extent, I do overlook it, because he's obviously kind of autistic. He used to always whine about John Scalzi, then he got a serious hate for Jordan Peterson, and now all people born before 1964. I'm sure he'll get wrapped around the axle about something else next.

Nevertheless, his hateful behavior on this issue is offensive and unchristian, and it's unrealistic to claim otherwise.
 

7-5

Pigeon
Other Christian
Don't presume to anticipate what I'm implying.
I am done making anymore of this thread about your generational cohort, I'll seek guidance elsewhere.

As regards VD, the topic of this, uh... Topic.

I've come to enjoy 'thesaker' through him.
But my military analysis/'sigint' skills are rusty (at best).
Anyone exposed to him for any length of time? Just wondering if he's on the level/a 'key player' in the 'let's take data and interviews and make predictions on world events' sphere.
 

Hermetic Seal

Pelican
Orthodox
Gold Member
The problem with Vox’s constant Boomer-bashing is that it only really applies to a small number of people technically classified as Boomers. My parents, for instance, are Boomers, but were in, what, third grade when Woodstock happened? Sexual revolution happened years before they hit puberty. I can think of a few people I've known that match his Boomer caricatures, but that's maybe 1 in 10, and it almost exclusively applies to those who were teenagers or older in the mid-late 60s. Aside from growing up in relative material comfort, the generation of my parents and my friends' parents don't really match his stereotypes at all.

The most stereotypically annoying Boomers are disproportionately conspicuous, but also only a fraction of their generation. Call me crazy, but I don't think it's really justifiable to sit around fantasizing and waxing poetic about the suffocation of a whole generation based on its most annoying examples. Every generation would be similarly guilty in that case.

I suspect this is really about Vox being bitter toward his dad or some similar personal grievance.
 

JohnQThomas

Woodpecker
Other Christian
Vox isn't posting things like this repeatedly to voice his opposition to the idea. On the other hand, he doesn't come right out and call for grandsons to smother their grandfathers, keeping the pillow in place for a few extra minutes to make sure.

He's more of a wink wink nudge nudge guy, trying to keep putting the idea in front of people repeatedly until it sticks. However, he makes some effort at plausible deniablity. It's not quite working for me. It appears to me he would be pleased if statistics show this kind of
I find it more than a bit humorous that Vox has reached a state of age and baldness that he's considered a "Boomer" by many Millennials and Zoomers.

I warned him more that 10 years ago,...when he started his anti Boomer rants,..that if they ever came to fruition, he would be of an age to be at ground zero to catch the brunt of it.

Vox is a bright guy. But he lacks foresight.

He needs to have hair if he's going to be calling for attacks on old people.
Yes—hating on seniors is one form of prejudice that makes no sense at all. Because sooner or later, most of us will ourselves be seniors.
 

NoMoreTO

Hummingbird
Catholic
Yes—hating on seniors is one form of prejudice that makes no sense at all. Because sooner or later, most of us will ourselves be seniors.

Yes, and we will either be good seniors or bad seniors.

It should be possible to have a disdain for the group as a whole, but not the individuals. Boomers in general are so materialistic that they will bankrupt future generations just to live comfortably in their old age (See Covid). They have very little care about continuity of culture, religion, or family, and this is something that most on here would agree is pretty offensive.

All that said, the majority of younger generations are far less grounded than the boomers, but then again, they were often raised by boomers.
 
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