The war against Christianity.

budoslavic

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Towgunner

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The war on Christianity is significant. Make no mistake about it. When I look at some of the more disappointing statistics regarding church attendance etc, I'm certainly concerned, but, not surprised. I think the lack of religiosity is directly correlated to this war, which has worked to undermine Christianity. I also think the abuse scandals of the early oughts were a key contributor to our current Christian malaise. Had there not been a deliberate and dedicated agenda against Christianity, I think things would be very different and Christianity would be flourishing. We can't underestimate how persuasive mass media is. Another element that I think is at work here is "effort". It takes effort to be Christian. You have to do things, such as, go to Church regularly but also delay gratification. In short, it can be difficult to be Christain. Today, we're led to believe that you should avoid all adversity even in the slightest. This has led to things like safe spaces and trigger warnings. Christianity can be challenging, especially by contemporary standards. Of course, it challenging in the same way that proper grammar or working out is challenging, which is one of the many reasons why its so critical to civilization.

That said, we can explain the current faith crisis to a source, and therefore, explain our situation. Moreover, as time goes by we can create strategies to confront this force and eventually reverse it.

With each passing day as the secular radical leftist agenda unfolds, it makes the case for Christianity stronger. I do believe that we'll discover, once again, that religion and Christianity, in particular, are vital and necessary components of society.
 

Dr Mantis Toboggan

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(although "Christian fundamentalist" in this context at least in the US usually implies evangelical Protestantism)
 

Towgunner

Kingfisher
(continue from above). One such example of why I think we'll re-discover the institution not only of religion but Christianity is to observe the consequences of not having it. Many "thinkers" have highlighted that when you remove the institution of religion something will fill the void. As it turns out, yes, like all things in the universe, something has, I suppose, filled the void. It's actually several things, most notable, corporations.

The void of religion has resulted in chaos, that much is true, and the purpose of this institution, i.e. morality, has been "filled" but in a very disjointed fashion. This should be expected. Several institutions have crept into this void, but since none of them are chiefly focused on morality, none of them belong. Most egregious and utterly inappropriate are corporations. Corporations are, at best, amoral institutions, but let's be honest, the pursuit of profit, which is the only priority of a corporation, is a material aim and, as we've seen countless times over both in Scripture and in real life, such a goal always leads to immorality. A corporation is the last place you should seek moral guidance from.

Apropos, it being June, several corporations are lecturing us on what is good and what is not. This is an intolerable situation. It's not so much that JP Morgan supports lgtJKU*&#, rather, that a company as vile and greedy and corrupted as JP Morgan would ever dare to tell anyone what is right or wrong. Wall Street investment banks are staffed with scores of horrible people and the only way to get ahead is to break rules. I've worked for a couple and I will not be told what is right or wrong by such a thing. It's like a career thief telling you you're a bad person for stealing. I won't have it and I don't think many other people will too.

This is what happens when you suppress the religious institution in society. For it is the purview of religion to uphold morality. That's its purpose. Just like it's the purview of a corporation to optimize its profitability. And so it is for education, which is to train people to be proficient in basic subjects so they have a chance to get somewhere in this world. Education is another unwelcomed interloper in this void. The results? Sexually grooming children.

Society has different institutions to do different things. Once again, the left perverts the fundamental purpose of several societal institutions and it shows. Corporations are now "churches" or vessels for "social justice". This explains why corporations routinely disregard and, in many instances, actually offend their very own customers. disney telling its fans they're bad people for not watching their terrible movies, mcdonalds saying Trump supporters have "small hands", gilette spitting in the face of its primary demographic, nascar, NBA, NFL etc. Think for a moment how utterly absurd that is. But, it makes "sense" once you realize these institutions are being perverted to do something they're not meant to do. Its not the purpose nor is it appropriate for a corporation to involve itself in personal values and beliefs, and certainly, to not take sides.

It's easy to get caught in the moment and to hate these corporations, which we should and we should let them know we do, but, at a higher resolution, you realize this is a predictable effect of suppressing religion. It's the kind thing and the kind of chaos that comes when a vital institution is suppressed from its job.

That the void is filled goes to show there's always a need for morality. That the void is filled with inappropriate alternatives goes to show morality is meant for religion only. As said, I think people are not putting up with this. Corporations are easy to hate, regardless of being on left or right, and customers are voting with their feet. They will very much regret doing what they're doing.

But, out of this chaos will be a realization that morality is necessary and vital and it deserves its own institution and that can only be religion. The most damming evidence that condemns this current arrangement is the results of this "new" morality. This new "morality" says pedophilia is okay, therefore, it is completely evil, and therefore, it's not at all "moral". This is why we'll once again resign the stewardship of morality into the hands of religion, and in particular, Christianity. It's where it belongs The tragedy of "modern" life is that we have to re-learn so much of what we had already learned eons ago.
 
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Viktor Zeegelaar

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I'd say that the fact that all religions get a pass or are actively promoted in the West and Christianity is systematically demolished and vilified is a great argument for the validity and truth of Christianity, when we take into account that the system that has been implemented for decades is Satanic at its core.
 

budoslavic

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Torba: The Washington Post is now claiming that the Christian cross emoji near your username (like the one that I personally have in my display name) is a "signal" for White Supremacy and extremism. They are also comparing Christians to ISIS in this story.

They are dehumanizing us because they want us dead. Wake up.



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Everyone should add a cross emoji to their display names on every social media platform they are on now.



 

DanielH

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It's actually heartening to see the increased attacks against Christians and Christianity. It tells me that for once in our lives, Christians are standing up against the Satanic globohomo beast system that has been entrenched in the West. I do not believe they managed to slow boil us long enough to completely break our resolve and what was left of the Christian foundations of America. Things are getting bad enough that it actually helps people make a stand. “If my currency is increasingly worthless and my children will be brainwashed and corrupted by the state and their so called influencers, what does it matter if I lose my job?”
 

Stoyan

 
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Orthodox
I do not believe they managed to slow boil us long enough to completely break our resolve and what was left of the Christian foundations of America.
I think that many churches have since been infiltrated by the deep state. You never know, some pastors or service members may in fact be secret agents. And not just in explicitly wokeist churches. Can't trust anyone these days.

It's actually heartening to see the increased attacks against Christians and Christianity. It tells me that for once in our lives, Christians are standing up against the Satanic globohomo beast system that has been entrenched in the West.
Yes and no. Some Christians and some churches are taking a stand, but most just roll over. The globohomo beast system try to infiltrate churches as their default mode of operation. If they cannot do this, if the church is sufficiently internally strong, and doesn't have any traitors or spies within it, only then do they resort to force.
 

DanielH

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Yes and no. Some Christians and some churches are taking a stand, but most just roll over. The globohomo beast system try to infiltrate churches as their default mode of operation. If they cannot do this, if the church is sufficiently internally strong, and doesn't have any traitors or spies within it, only then do they resort to force.
I'm definitely seeing more actions from individual Christians than from any Church. Ever since Churches have been forbidden to speak on politics without losing their tax exempt status we have been under a form of state persecution. Anyone who does speak up (such as Abbot Tryphon, Fr. Peter Heers, and Fr. Josiah Trenham whom I believe can only speak on politics through his Patristic Nectar Publications legal entity) does so at great risk legally. This isn't an excuse, but is just something to keep in mind going forward and is a good reason not to have churches run by essentially boards of executives instead of presbyters and bishops. For the Orthodox, this means taking a closer look at who serves on parish councils and getting more involved ourselves.
 

infowarrior1

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Protestant
I think that many churches have since been infiltrated by the deep state. You never know, some pastors or service members may in fact be secret agents. And not just in explicitly wokeist churches. Can't trust anyone these days.


Yes and no. Some Christians and some churches are taking a stand, but most just roll over. The globohomo beast system try to infiltrate churches as their default mode of operation. If they cannot do this, if the church is sufficiently internally strong, and doesn't have any traitors or spies within it, only then do they resort to force.
Being situated in America especially this is more likely to happen. And secondarily in West Europe.
 

Stoyan

 
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Being situated in America especially this is more likely to happen. And secondarily in West Europe.
I wouldn't exclude the Federation from the list either. You know, just in case. ;)

Cringe atheist in the comments.
I know what you mean. Not all, but a large quantity of atheists are extremely arrogant and obnoxious. The "higher than thou, in the ivory tower" mentality/attitude, treating everyone with a differing worldview as almost subhuman. Condescending and rude, unable to have a productive discussion. They think they know everything, but in reality they don't know nothing. The worst thing is that they are also ignorant when presented with literally any evidence which would burst their bubble. They make no efforts to view any fringe information, hence they are intellectually stagnating. "Fact checkers", thinking that they have a monopoly on truth. I'm tired arguing with them.
 

infowarrior1

Peacock
Protestant
I wouldn't exclude the Federation from the list either. You know, just in case. ;)


I know what you mean. Not all, but a large quantity of atheists are extremely arrogant and obnoxious. The "higher than thou, in the ivory tower" mentality/attitude, treating everyone with a differing worldview as almost subhuman. Condescending and rude, unable to have a productive discussion. They think they know everything, but in reality they don't know nothing. The worst thing is that they are also ignorant when presented with literally any evidence which would burst their bubble. They make no efforts to view any fringe information, hence they are intellectually stagnating. "Fact checkers", thinking that they have a monopoly on truth. I'm tired arguing with them.

How the internet dealt with cringe atheists:
 
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