The war against Christianity.

MRAll134

Pelican
They are literally turning a Christian Church into a prison/restricted area. "Authorities" are building a metal fence around the Gracelife Church, to restrict entry. Unbelievable escalation:

Communist China-Canada Police Raid Church, Erect Barriers, Block Entry Due To Covid Tyranny
A church in Alberta, Canada was raided by police this morning for remaining open against a local order telling the house of worship to close due to COVID-19.

After the early morning raid, police erected barricades around the building and are refusing to let anyone on the property.

According to a Rebel News reporter, Christian Grace Life Church (Grace Life) located in Spruce Grove, Alberta was swarmed by police who set up two layers of security fencing and covered the entrance to the building with a tarp.

The reporter, Sheila Gunn Reid, also said police and private Paladin security were on the scene, but that officers had “no documentation to present to the church regarding closure, but are keeping members off the property.”


Source: https://www.infowars.com/posts/poli...barriers-block-entry-due-to-covid-violations/
 
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Muscovite

Robin
Orthodox
Police pull elderly Christian preacher, 71, off his podium and ARREST him for making 'homophobic statements' - after he refused to stop reading from Genesis...

 

Grow Bag

Pelican
A well respected street preacher, Pastor John Sherwood, gets shoved and manhandled by a Indian or Pakistani (possibly a Muslim) for causing alarm and distress. His crime was to preach that homosexuality is a sin and hurting the feelz of a passing bisexual and lesbian, who called the police. It's hard to watch this man being ritually humiliated, at least it was for me.
There's a well written piece in Conservative Woman on the arrest.
 

911

Peacock
Gold Member
The brown guy leading the arrest is a cop (handcuffs on his belt), probably some kind of minority hire political commissar. Shades of 1920s Bolshevik Russia, where ethnic Cheka types were leading Russian policemen taking outspoken Christians and patriot rebels to the gulags.
 

Wammer44

Pigeon
Finnish Bishop Elect charged over historic Christian teachings on human sexuality

Please pray for the Christians of Finland. A Lutheran pastor has been charged for a pamphlet he wrote in 2004 which articulates Christian teaching on sexuality.

“Finland’s Prosecutor General began an investigation of the ELMDF in 2019 for its booklet “Male and Female He Created Them: Homosexual Relationships Challenge the Christian Concept of Humanity,” despite an earlier investigation by Helsinki Police which concluded no laws had been broken.”

“Dr. Räsänen has now been charged with incitement by the Prosecutor General, both for the booklet and for other comments on human sexuality. As Dean Pohjola is editor-in-chief of Luther Foundation Finland’s publications—including the booklet “Male and Female He Created Them”—he also was charged.”
 

mgill0600

Pigeon
More trouble for Pastor Artur. There has always been violence against Christians, but it sure does seem to be growing more frequent and less outrageous to society in the age of Coronoa:

Another Pastor arrested:

Although to be fair, Canada is also arresting normal every day citizens who's neighbors snitched on them about not social distancing. COVID is a power hungry politicians wet dream:
 

budoslavic

Eagle
Orthodox
Gold Member
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Carter Brink

Sparrow
Hi everyone, I'm unable to start threads, and I don't know where else to post this. I think there should at least be a thread dedicated to this issue.

Yesterday, a type of war broke out in South Africa, you can call it whatever you like, but essentially one political faction is fighting another, bullets are flying, some cities look like they're burning, people are running for safety. Law and order officially broke down last night in some regions, there is a lack of police and soldiers, and there are bodies lying in the streets (most of the footage I have to show was deleted from YouTube). This is the first time I'm experiencing war, it's the first time I'm seeing dead bodies as a result of violence. I grew up very sheltered, I could just as well have grown up in California...:laughter:
Large groups of civilians have taken up arms - astonishingly large groups - some even teaming up with police.. But my instinct tells me that this is a trap, and that the authorities will come after those civilians who took up arms. I can also see this being used as a justification for permanent military enforced lock downs and a ban on guns.

What does a Christian do during a war?

Roosh, what is your take on this?
 

DanielH

Ostrich
Orthodox
First off, don't laugh, get serious. You have a duty to your nation, essentially meaning your extended blood related family, to protect them. If you don't have a gun get behind someone with guns and prove to them you're capable, or at least willing to listen to orders without hesitation.
Large groups of civilians have taken up arms - astonishingly large groups - some even teaming up with police.. But my instinct tells me that this is a trap, and that the authorities will come after those civilians who took up arms. I can also see this being used as a justification for permanent military enforced lock downs and a ban on guns.
Maybe, but who cares? Find your people and stand with them. Your options are to face a potential trap or let your people get looted, killed, and wiped off the earth. You aren't doing anything wrong by being a peacemaker when your government has failed to fulfill that role. Remember, you're not revolting against your God-given government, you're simply trying to preserve peace. "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called the sons of God."
What does a Christian do during a war?
St. Paisios the Athonite enlisted in the Greek Army to beat the communists in their civil war. He served as a radioman so that he wouldn't have to kill anyone, but the Church recognizes there are times where violence is necessary. If I were you I would have no qualms with bearing arms and marching with your people against the forces of chaos and anarchy. Besides this, pray.
 

Easy_C

Peacock
Yesterday, a type of war broke out in South Africa, you can call it whatever you like, but essentially one political faction is fighting another, bullets are flying, some cities look like they're burning, people are running for safety. Law and order officially broke down last night in some regions, there is a lack of police and soldiers, and there are bodies lying in the streets (most of the footage I have to show was deleted from YouTube). This is the first time I'm experiencing war, it's the first time I'm seeing dead bodies as a result of violence. I grew up very sheltered, I could just as well have grown up in California...:laughter:

You're getting good advice above.

What wins in times like that is numbers. Join your local group leader and provide some value by doing jobs other people don't want to do. If nothing else you can volunteer to do night sentry duty.


If you have moral qualms look up just war doctrine. There are circumstances in which it is not a sin to kill in a conflict.
 

Coja Petrus Uscan

Crow
Orthodox Inquirer
Gold Member
It was a year ago yesterday since Leonard started this prophetic thread.

Although the current iteration of the traditional Christian movement is small. So small, that it would not be noticeable unless you are a professional, paid-up activist, specialising in snubbing out any opponents to - (declining) liberalism, secularism, sexual liberation and so forth. To clarify the current iteration is one that is not Protestant, and most connected to Orthodoxy.

The SPLC already has categories for 'Christian identity' and 'radical traditional Catholicism'. The public-facing personages of this movement are already being written about by the usual suspects and lumped in together with movements they have no known connection to.

In reading the critics of the traditional Christian movement I see the same trick the the establishment (i.e. the left) uses in virtually any instance. For example, "there is no such thing as cancel culture", while they are actively calling for people to be defenistrated from society; often for not even holding positions that are polar-opposites to them.

The same is occurring in discourse on the traditional Christian movement. There is an article in secular leftist publication Religious Dispatches that notes how the movement feels it is being attacked, banned, deleted; while being part of the movement to do that. This is a borderline-personality disorder (BPD) trait. As noted elsewhere, the establishment/left, now free of having to deal with any real opposition, are showing their true colours. Those colours are a congealed, crowd-sourced and organised form of BPD, which could best be described as crying foul as they hit you. Their aim is to use guilt and fear to never speak of your opposition. Torba has the response to this. You can be banned in silence and submission; or you can be banned without moving your position.

It is clear that the traditional Christian movement will grow, slowly; and that an avalanche of literally Hitler, you're literally killing people and so on is going to follow. How should this be dealt with?

Reading their hit pieces, these are the main things they are hyperventilating about:

1) opposition to democracy, which is their system that favours them; and traditional Christian preference for monarchy or something similar, i.e. they believe the diametric opposition to their position has to be banned; though the left/institutions do not believe in democracy; for them democracy is a very broad term; but they are fine with virtually all of the institutions being 98%+ from one cloth (the left); start tackling that topic and they have no answer and will drop it (as they don't have to make arguments); Western countries are already authoritarian; opposition to secular orthodoxy is not allowed

2) opposition to LGBT ad infinitum [they believe the diametric opposition to their position has to be banned]

3) opposition to liberalism and science, even though the left is not liberal, liberalism is now largely reduced to "do as thou shallt, so long as you do not offend the decrees of secular institutions" like GAP and J.C. Penny

4) secularism - a belief that church and state are 100% separated; religion, at best, is only something that should be a private matter and offset indoctrination in school and the media; secular government is supreme; people can have whatever religious ideas they choose (at best) and increasingly those ideas must be secular-safe; even Christian organisations must be 100% secular, liberal and reformist (or find themselves on the naughty list), i.e. original Christian

5) fear of Russia and Vladimir Putin

6) opposing female clergy (typically from athiests, but also refomists)

How should these prongs they are going to push into the traditional Christian movement be dealt with?

I have an idea on point 2) opposition of LGBT ad infinitum, which is to broaden and focus the opposition to opposing the sexualisation of society. That is, reference all children hearing about sex in music, TV and film from the earliest ages; cam-girls; Seeking Arrangements; pornography and its connection to abuse and sex trafficking.

In a materialist society, which is all secular people know, I believe the prime concern of men is sex. It is a weak spot. In talking to leftists about the topic of sexualisation I have found they loose their mind, particularly in relation to a complete ban of pornography. Despite having no power, just the suggestion of wanting to pan their never-ending conveyor belt of women they'd probably have to pay to look at them, causes an eruption of furry like I have never seen. And it is essentially on the back-foot for at least two reasons: 1) it forces them to confront the darkness and loser in them; and 2) they have nothing to defend themselves with and are liable to find themselves making arguments they know are really terrible. Forcing the left and institutions to endlessly defend pornography, camming, OnlyFans and so on is one of the biggest weapons we have. On this topic they don't have their stack of -isms to delve into and assume they have vanquished you.
 
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