The War on Russia

China is a blind spot for many on this forum, and the West in general. This is a result of the secretive nature of the CCP, the near impossible to comprehend Chinese mentality/culture and of course the language barrier.

Many who visit China will never be able to scratch below the surface. Some live in China for years and never get to comprehend the culture.

So I don't blame anyone for being misinformed about China. People are just not grounded. They don't have the knowledge, comprehension and experience. As a result MISinformation seeps through easily as many don't have the handles to distinguish fact from fiction.

I have lived in China for 5 years, speak the language to some extent and have tried to immerse myself. I never lived in any foreign bubble, have made thousand of business contacts, have more than a dozen Chinese friends, know several CCP members - some of them quite well. However, I consider myself a toddler when it comes to China. China is unlike any other country in the world. The Chinese might as well be aliens because that's how different their culture and mentality is from ours.

This is also the reason why I in general do not get into discussions about this topic, unless it relates to geopolitics/history. I don't consider myself knowledgeable enough to give proper analysis on social phenomena

However, there is something that pisses me off to no extend. And that is clueless clowns masquerading as experts.

Two dudes that don't speak the language have probably never lived there or even been there, with no knowledge of the culture/mentality, without any inside information, without any connections, without any first hand experience sitting somewhere in a basement in bumfuck rural Kentucky talking about China as if they are an authority on the matter. It's absolutely ridiculous.

For some reason this podcast now gets spam-plugged in every (often non-related) thread. To the person doing this: Stop doing this. This thread is about the geopolitical realities concerning Russia. If you want to do enlarge the audience just make your own podcast related thread. Simple as.

Some of the things said about China in other threads are laughable. Straight up. Shows such a binary, US-centered viewpoint, and such a very narrow comprehension of the culture and country.



The one ring that rules them all. I wanted to pick this point out to make my point clear.

BULL. SHIT.

In countries like China and Russia power rules money, instead of the other way around. It is a reality that is very easily observable, and that Americans just don't see to able to grasp. It might have something to do with the merchant-related nature of that country, and the lack of strong leadership.

Then look at the big time banking connections and where the money is going. It isn't about culture, it is about finance. That is all my comments are relating to. Blackrock isn't investing hundreds of billions, maybe trillions, into China without something in return.

As far as Russia/Putin, we know who he surrounds himself with. If he was a legit threat to the system, as pointed out, he could go ham on our system with just a few strong comments about the lack of rights for many of our citizens and our support of ISIS in the middle east.

Which is why there will be no full scale war on Russia. Russia isn't a threat to the establishment right now, the way Iran and Hezbollah are. And we saw the system lash out at both very strongly over the last few months.
 
Then look at the big time banking connections and where the money is going. It isn't about culture, it is about finance. That is all my comments are relating to. Blackrock isn't investing hundreds of billions, maybe trillions, into China without something in return.
It's a global economy dude, German companies are trillions deep in the Russian economy but that doesn't mean that Putin now bows to the head of Volkswagen

You just don't seem to understand the posture and importance of Xi JinPing, the clanbased nature of the CCP and the ethno-centric/insulated mentality of the Chinese

In China and Russia rogue oligarchs slave away in labor camps on the steppe, if they survive. In the US they decide elections. Learn the difference.
 
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It's a global economy dude, German companies are trillions deep in the Russian economy but that doesn't mean that Putin now bows to the head of Volkswagen

You just don't seem to understand the posture and importance of Xi JinPing, the clanbased nature of the CCP and the ethno-centric/insulated mentality of the Chinese

In China and Russia rogue oligarchs slave away in labor camps on the steppe, if they survive. In the US they decide elections. Learn the difference.
It isn't Chinese or Russia oligarchs buying up national banks and directing the their largest infrastructure projects. It is Wall Street Titans, with trillions of dollars and the US military to back them, or simply the CIA to stir up problems if you don't want to play ball.
 
It isn't Chinese or Russia oligarchs buying up national banks and directing the their largest infrastructure projects. It is Wall Street Titans, with trillions of dollars and the US military to back them, or simply the CIA to stir up problems if you don't want to play ball.
China is not using its massive trade-in-dollar surplus to buy people, real estate, infrastructure and influence all around the world. Alright then.

You learn something new every day I guess.
 
China is not using its massive trade-in-dollar surplus to buy people, real estate, infrastructure and influence all around the world. Alright then.

You learn something new every day I guess.
Wall Street firms used Trump's trade embargo on China to strong arm the CCP into rewriting their constitution to allow foreign investors to buy up their investment banks and start to purchase with their national banks.
 
Wall Street firms used Trump's trade embargo on China to strong arm the CCP into rewriting their constitution to allow foreign investors to buy up their investment banks and start to purchase with their national banks.
Wall Street bullied the hardline Xi JinPing CCP faction into re-writing its Constitution. Now I've heard it all.

This argument is exactly developing as I thought it would be. Which is why I decided for so long to avoid it. Grandiose, unsubstantiated claims that a genuine person would cost half a day refuting. Notice how everything I said in my previous posts just gets ignored while you move to the next talking point. I guess if it weren't for two mono-lingual pale American hillbillies sitting in a dusty studio in Kentucky we would have never found out The Truth About China.

The 2018 Constitution amendment(and constitutional amendments are rather common in China) dealt with a whole lot of things, but was mostly implemented to elevate Xi's 'Socialism with Chinese characteristics' ideology to the highest level of state ideology (on par with Maoism), and ending term limits for a Secretary General of the CCP (meaning that Xi would become a ruler for life)
 
Wall Street bullied the hardline Xi JinPing CCP faction into re-writing its Constitution. Now I've heard it all.

This argument is exactly developing as I thought it would be. Which is why I decided for so long to avoid it. Grandiose, unsubstantiated claims that a genuine person would cost half a day refuting. Notice how everything I said in my previous posts just gets ignored while you move to the next talking point. I guess if it weren't for two mono-lingual pale American hillbillies sitting in a dusty studio in Kentucky we would have never found out The Truth About China.

The 2018 Constitution amendment(and constitutional amendments are rather common in China) dealt with a whole lot of things, but was mostly implemented to elevate Xi's 'Socialism with Chinese characteristics' ideology to the highest level of state ideology (on par with Maoism), and ending term limits for a Secretary General of the CCP (meaning that Xi would become a ruler for life)
Wall Street owns the US Govt., which put trade restrictions on China.

https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=f755bc60-b72b-492e-bee6-fbfbe77ca444

https://www.reuters.com/business/fi...th-management-jv-with-ccb-temasek-2021-05-12/

https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-...ion-for-foreign-direct-investment-11611511200

Do you think China has plans to stand up to the west? If so, why don't they at least make comments that would fracture this thing without them having to lift a finger?

This is off topic though. It is about war with Russia, and I don't forsee any full scale war with anyone after Iran and Hezbollah have provent to be more advanced that originally thought. They will take down the remaining resistant countries with the sweet temptation of low rate loans. Russia is not a real threat to them right now.
 

Goni

Woodpecker
It's a global economy dude, German companies are trillions deep in the Russian economy but that doesn't mean that Putin now bows to the head of Volkswagen

You just don't seem to understand the posture and importance of Xi JinPing, the clanbased nature of the CCP and the ethno-centric/insulated mentality of the Chinese

In China and Russia rogue oligarchs slave away in labor camps on the steppe, if they survive. In the US they decide elections. Learn the difference.
Hmmmm

Do they?

It seems the Jude own Russia in large. Maybe not entirely but it seems they have their tentacles every where and thrive?
https://www.rooshvforum.com/threads/the-role-and-importance-of-jews-in-putins-modern-russia.40233/

Or is the guy lying?

Imagine this happening in the 3rd Reich.

I am not going to talk about China, but Russia and Putin?

He doesn't seem so based at all.

Maybe he is keeping the Jews in place, maybe not all jews have the same intentions but as some one said " if you are a friend of Jews, you are not a friend of people".
 
Wall Street owns the US Govt., which put trade restrictions on China.

https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=f755bc60-b72b-492e-bee6-fbfbe77ca444

https://www.reuters.com/business/fi...th-management-jv-with-ccb-temasek-2021-05-12/

https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-...ion-for-foreign-direct-investment-11611511200

Do you think China has plans to stand up to the west? If so, why don't they at least make comments that would fracture this thing without them having to lift a finger?

This is off topic though. It is about war with Russia, and I don't forsee any full scale war with anyone after Iran and Hezbollah have provent to be more advanced that originally thought. They will take down the remaining resistant countries with the sweet temptation of low rate loans. Russia is not a real threat to them right now.
The global post Soviet economy is a global economy. And you are quoting 1980 Chinese laws by the way. I don't know why this is so hard for people to understand. China cultivates foreign investment as it is maturing its equity market. The Chinese equity market is underdeveloped which poses threats to its overall economy, which in turn is the underpinnings of the CCP's legitimacy.

I've mentioned before that many on here swallowed the propaganda on Putin, even if that propaganda wasn't aimed at their particular (right wing) voter demographic. Now half the board here sees Putin as an ethno-nationalist, Jew-hating authoritarian leader - and then they get disappointed and surprised when it turns out he is not. The same could be said about China. Everything that indicates China is not North Korea is proof of the globalist takeover of China. And even then half the stuff they write is plain incorrect.

As for War with Russia, there is an absolutely massive global conflict looming on the horizon, which will lead to a new fracturing of informational, economic, financial and military spaces.
 
Hmmmm

Do they?

It seems the Jude own Russia in large. Maybe not entirely but it seems they have their tentacles every where and thrive?
https://www.rooshvforum.com/threads/the-role-and-importance-of-jews-in-putins-modern-russia.40233/

Or is the guy lying?

Imagine this happening in the 3rd Reich.

I am not going to talk about China, but Russia and Putin?

He doesn't seem so based at all.

Maybe he is keeping the Jews in place, maybe not all jews have the same intentions but as some one said " if you are a friend of Jews, you are not a friend of people".
I said ROGUE oligarchs.
 
The global post Soviet economy is a global economy. And you are quoting 1980 Chinese laws by the way. I don't know why this is so hard for people to understand. China cultivates foreign investment as it is maturing its equity market. The Chinese equity market is underdeveloped which poses threats to its overall economy, which in turn is the underpinnings of the CCP's legitimacy.

I've mentioned before that many on here swallowed the propaganda on Putin, even if that propaganda wasn't aimed at their particular (right wing) voter demographic. Now half the board here sees Putin as an ethno-nationalist, Jew-hating authoritarian leader - and then they get disappointed and surprised when it turns out he is not. The same could be said about China. Everything that indicates China is not North Korea is proof of the globalist takeover of China. And even then half the stuff they write is plain incorrect.

As for War with Russia, there is an absolutely massive global conflict looming on the horizon, which will lead to a new fracturing of informational, economic, financial and military spaces.

I see Putin and Xi as the same thing. Controlled opposition. In Xi's case, he will be used to allow the elites to move in and set up shop in a much larger nation than the USA, after the USA is finally sucked dry.

The articles I posted talk about changes to foreign investment laws made in 2019 and 2020 to allow Blackrock to move in and set up. One article referenced China being the world's leader in foreign investment for 2020, beating the USA out for the first time, by any nation, in decades.
 
I see Putin and Xi as the same thing. Controlled opposition. In Xi's case, he will be used to allow the elites to move in and set up shop in a much larger nation than the USA, after the USA is finally sucked dry.

The articles I posted talk about changes to foreign investment laws made in 2019 and 2020 to allow Blackrock to move in and set up. One article referenced China being the world's leader in foreign investment for 2020, beating the USA out for the first time, by any nation, in decades.
I don't. Anyway I value different viewpoints and opinions as it keeps the mind sharp. This forum has become too much of an echo chamber anyways.

However in this case it seems based around limited ethno-centric US understandings of culture and history, a very strong set of a priori beliefs, cynical contrarianism (in the case of the duo who I've been listening to on one of their previous podcasts), an 'end of history' tier thinking and a very selective use of factoids.

I see where your argument comes from, but I also see where it hugely falls short, as explained in my previous posts. The fact that it is perpetuated by people who zero affinity with the country and culture, in my opinion, doesn't help either.

China under Xi JinPing (like Russia under Putin) has been moving away from the globalists and it irks them to no extend. To own something and then not. This is not hard to observe if you follow what's going on both on world stage and behind the scenes

The obvious acts of 'economic vandalism' (Tom Luongo's neologism) and incitement towards internal divisions that are now happening in the USA are primarily perpetrated so they can scare-monger the population into accepting a technocratic surveillance state. This plan has been fast tracked because of China's fast rise and the subsequent panic that beset Washington (and increasing populism at home).

Just remember how quiet and serene life was only 10 years ago. The globalists were, if anything, more in control back then. This applies to their levels of control in China too. They were forced out in the open, becoming ever more authoritarian. These in itself are two signs of decreasing levels of control and growing desperation.

As for China's history with the globalists, it is obvious that at some point in the last century China was the globalists' darling. They had a brief honeymoon during Mao's early days (which is nowadays greatly exaggerated) and then moved in big time after the country opened up in the early 1980s. Everything was well until China grew up and developed an opinion of its own. The globalist faction within the CCP has been losing influence ever since Jiang Zemin abdicated. I'll repeat what I said before. In the China of Xi JinPing power rules money and politics rules finance.
 
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I don't. Anyway I value different viewpoints and opinions as it keeps the mind sharp. This forum has become too much of an echo chamber anyways.

However in this case it seems based around limited ethno-centric US understandings of culture and history, a very strong set of a priori beliefs, cynical contrarianism (in the case of the duo who I've been listening to on one of their previous podcasts), an 'end of history' tier thinking and mostly a lack of factoids.

I see where your argument comes from, but I also see where it hugely falls short, as explained in my previous posts. The fact that it is perpetuated by people who zero affinity with the country and culture, in my opinion, doesn't help either.

China under Xi JinPing (like Russia under Putin) has been moving away from the globalists and it irks them to no extend. To own something and then not. This is not hard to observe if you follow what's going on both on world stage and behind the scenes

The obvious acts of 'economic vandalism' (Tom Luongo's neologism) and incitement towards internal divisions that are now happening in the USA are primarily perpetrated so they can scare-monger the population into accepting a technocratic surveillance state. This plan has been fast tracked because of China's fast rise and the subsequent panic that beset Washington (and increasing populism at home).

Just remember how quiet and serene life was only 10 years ago. The globalists were, if anything, more in control back then. This applies to their levels of control in China too. They were forced out in the open, becoming ever more authoritarian. These in itself are two signs of decreasing levels of control and growing desperation.

As for China's history with the globalists, it is obvious that at some point in the last century China was the globalists' darling. They had a brief honeymoon during Mao's early days (which is nowadays greatly exaggerated) and then moved in big time after the country opened up in the early 1980s. Everything was well until China grew up and developed an opinion of its own. The globalist faction within the CCP has been losing influence ever since Jiang Zemin abdicated. I'll repeat what I said before. In the China of Xi JinPing power rules money and politics rules finance.

You think Xi's move to finance capitalism, including the pitfalls of more career first women, more divorces and out of control materialism is a move away from the globalists?

Sorry, this is off topic and I will drop out after my question.
 
You think Xi's move to finance capitalism, including the pitfalls of more career first women, more divorces and out of control materialism is a move away from the globalists?

Sorry, this is off topic and I will drop out after my question.

More assumptions, faux causality and the-sky-is-falling-down rhetoric

Puritan National Socialists want China to be a autarkic, agricultural based economy for everything else is globalism and falling into the Jewish death trap. Not a word was taken into consideration of what I said in my ~5 earlier posts today

I was thinking about writing a long post on China's wrought relationship with globalism, the silly binary application of US history and timelines on China or the huge incoherencies in your story but at this point its clear that it is futile, and a complete waste of time.

As for this supposed societal consequences of this 'move towards financial capitalism' (which is a deliberate misnomer to create the fake narrative parroted above), nothing has changed since the 80s in that regard, aside from more regulations and more checks and balances. Even the few real sources you mentioned show this. I will repeat myself, we are living in a global economy dominated by the USD dollar/petrodollar. China benefits from this. Watch what happens when the petrodollar falls. Return to the days of the SU.

The bleak picture you paint about China's societal developments is projection, again. None of what was mentioned above is a real issue, and none of it has domestic origins. Nor will they become real issues as the Chinese government is enacting pro-active policies in combating unwanted societal developments that could potential harm the nation.

The only massive social problem China faces is its low birthrates. The CCP doesn't agree with me and considers its hyper-materialism an equally big issue - hence the SCS. On the former, looking at the CCPs successfull track record they will within the decade manage to put those on the trayectory towards the 2.0 level.
 
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911

Peacock
Gold Member
I think the CCP wants its population to drop to around 1 billion, which is still plenty of people for a nation their size but will give them a bit more room to spread. If they can manage to build 50,000km of state of the art high speed railways in 10 years and giant hospitals in 10 days, they can easily manage running efficient retirement homes for their elderly.

I think it costs around $70,000/yr to house and care for an ailing senior in a public retirement home in Canada, even as the living standards there are very low, with bad food and marginal personal care. 80% of covid deaths were of seniors in that horrendous residential system, those poor souls were left to wither away. In China they will probably have millions of caregivers from places like the Philippines, Indonesia, Pakistan or Bangladesh working for $200-$300/month. They will provide better care for their elderly without impeding their economic development. That might also be a good way for their country to address their gender imbalance.
 

Easy_C

Peacock
As far as Russia/Putin, we know who he surrounds himself with. If he was a legit threat to the system, as pointed out, he could go ham on our system with just a few strong comments about the lack of rights for many of our citizens and our support of ISIS in the middle east.
A few comments? Nobody would listen to it. Hell Snowden's leaks resulted in literally nothing. Putin bombed ISIS and effectively ended their threat to Syria which as far more substantial.
 
A few comments? Nobody would listen to it. Hell Snowden's leaks resulted in literally nothing. Putin bombed ISIS and effectively ended their threat to Syria which as far more substantial.
Sure they would listen to it. Putin has made much lighter comments in the past and people online were sharing them and excited about it.

If the came out and blasted the US Govt. for supporting ISIS terrorist that torture Christians for entertainment, while the American people are losing their homes and then added in comments about how BLM are allowed to burn down cities for months on end but right wing protestors face decades in prison for posting memes online, it would cause a very big ruckus.

Which is exactly why he doesn't do it. He isn't allowed to do so, if he even cares. HIs job is what he is doing right now.
 

MKE-Ed

Woodpecker
I’m not sure if this is the right place to mention this, but I noticed this morning a news story at Infowars.com about the senate democrats now working on changing the draft laws to now include women. This is a significant development. For a while now the US political elites have been very open about their hostile attitudes towards Russia and now China. I get the feeling that they now want to include women in any future draft scenario in case of a military confrontation with Russia or China because they will need way more bodies if a war breaks out with these countries.

The anti Russia rhetoric has been increased in the past several months and I get the impression that the elites are now starting to believe that a military showdown is going to occur at some point. If this really does come to pass, this will be a very dangerous and potentially catastrophic event. This will not be like what has taken place in Iraq or Afghanistan. If the elites push for this then god help us.
 
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