This Google employee saves money by living in the parking lot

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Meadowlark

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Captainstabbin said:
DJ-Matt said:
Good for him, I'm closing the deal on a 31 foot class A this week. Seriously considered moving into it full time to live dirt cheap. Without a huge mortgage payment or other giant expenses hanging over our heads, a lot of small biz owners wouldn't have to get day jobs in the early years.

There's a world of difference between this kid's truck and a 31 foot class A. A 31 foot RV is probably bigger than my first apartment.

Even a small van-sized class B is better than what this kid has.

What model did you buy?

Fleetwood Fiesta with workhorse (chevrolet) chassis.
 

Bad Hussar

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That interior is really ugly. Why didn't he just get a second hand RV. I'm sure he could have got one that had a decent interior and the mechanical condition to at least get him to San Francisco for $10,000 or less. Does he need the van so that it is inconspicuous?
 

Bad Hussar

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Zelcorpion said:
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The economy is going to shit while people are getting squeezed out living for 2000$/month at 4 people on 65m2. That is the problem, less that guy's ability to save more cash. (and be stupid about it telling everyone)

That's why it astounds me nearly every US tech startup either is in the San Francisco Bay area or has some sort of desire to be there. The town planning set-up there is always going to be decades behind the demand curve. So as to protect entrenched interests. The sensible solution would be to free up masses of "brownfield" sites near public transport for high density earthquake safe residential buildings. The ranches out in the hills can stay as is for the billionaire and multi-millionaire class. Paying $2,000 to share some crappy condo with 3 other people is not sustainable.

Frankly even New York is a better location. Trendy locations are expensive, but it is possible to get more reasonable places still on transport routes. The impression I get of the Bay area is that the housing market is screwed up from the top to bottom as a result of weird town planning regulations. No doubt they now have weird laws in New York as well. It's just that so much housing was built before those specific special interests could gain ascendancy. So there is much more stock per capita than in San Francisco. But if I have it wrong please let me know.

I think if I were starting a US tech company I'd look to set up in Las Vegas. Cheap real-estate. Would be attractive to young tech workers. Excellent air hub. Nevada tax regulations. Why is everyone going to San Francisco?
 

ninja26

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^^^

It seems to be a chicken or the egg problem. All the tech talent flocks to silicon valley so companies have to be there to tap into it. If you open up a office in Las Vegas for example you might get some eager fresh graduates to work there but employees with established roots and looking for backup job options in the area won't move there.
 

Emancipator

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^^^ Tony Hsieh founder of Zappos is trying his hardest to make Las Vegas a tech hub, spending millions of his own fortune and it still isn't helping.
 

debeguiled

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Bad Hussar said:
That interior is really ugly. Why didn't he just get a second hand RV. I'm sure he could have got one that had a decent interior and the mechanical condition to at least get him to San Francisco for $10,000 or less. Does he need the van so that it is inconspicuous?

I think that is it. There is a subculture of Boondockers/Stealth Campers, and the idea is to blend in with the environment:

http://www.cheaprvliving.com/boondocking-stealth-parking/where-to-stealth-park/


It's not just to avoid cops and security guards. It's also to pass under the radar of drug addicts and other nefarious types.

A white box truck fits in anywhere, though he could have made a little more effort with the interior. There are a million videos about rv conversions on youtube for all kinds of vans. Not so many box trucks.

This chick did something similar, though either she, or guys she knew, put a little more work into it:

 

Travesty

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Bad Hussar said:
Why is everyone going to San Francisco?

Venture capitalists, angel investors, ability to raise money, can quickly recruit top talent if you grow and offer enough, or get bought out from other tech companies.
 

monster

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Travesty said:
Bad Hussar said:
Why is everyone going to San Francisco?

Venture capitalists, angel investors, ability to raise money, can quickly recruit top talent if you grow and offer enough, or get bought out from other tech companies.

Because they're dumb lemmings.

CA is the worst state in the nation for startups.

90%+ of all silicon valley businesses fail. Of course you only hear about the mega-successes though. SF may be a great place for an established tech company who has the track record but for all the entrepreneurs who go to Silicon Valley and get raped by the high cost of living, exorbitant cost of office space, and even higher California taxes, well they're just dumb. The failure rate would be much lower if the same entrepreneurs used prudent decision making rather than jumping into the rat race without the wherewithall.
 
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