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<blockquote data-quote="OGNorCal707" data-source="post: 634844" data-attributes="member: 456"><p>I think these martial arts debates are getting pretty played out on the forum, ofcourse everyone chimes in and thinks they're an expert on the matter. I've done a decent bit of martial arts training over the last 3 years, mostly in Wing Chun Kung Fu, but also a good bit of Muay Thai, Filipino Kali, and about 8 months of consistent BJJ before I dropped out. That said by no means do I consider myself a martial arts expert or bad ass fighter. Personally I'm more a fan of the striking arts, but grappling is extremely important as well. For a guy to be really well rounded some stand-up and ground fighting skills are crucial, but most guys tend to either stick with just stand-up or grappling, and to be honest unless you're trying to become a MMA fighter and do cage fights, or just are really interested in becoming a beast at self defense, most guys will be fine with picking one or the other.</p><p></p><p>While UFC and MMA are becoming more and more popular, I'd say outside of certain hotbeds of MMA like Las Vegas or Orange County, the average guy you'll encounter in a street fight or bar fight is most likely not going to have any martial arts training. That said, I wouldn't have a false confidence because you're a blue belt in BJJ or a brown belt in Karate that you're invincible.</p><p></p><p>I do agree that some styles are going to be more effective than others, Muay Thai or boxing are probably going to be more applicable than Tai Kwon Do in most street defense situations. However I do think it's flawed thinking to say that a traditional martial art like TKD or Karate is completely useless.</p><p></p><p>Also a lot of guys on here talk about sparring, and yes I will agree that training with full contact sparring will make a big difference, and yes a lot of traditional martial arts do not incorporate sparring enough. I have done a fair amount of sparring, even did about five 3 minute rounds with a Muay Thai instructor whose trained for 12 years. But, I will admit to you guys that a lot of times I straight up bitch out when it comes to sparring and haven't had a good sparring session in about 3-4 months.</p><p></p><p>Why do I bitch out on sparring? Well because I have injured myself and also almost caused serious damage to a sparring partner's eye socket which required him to go get checked out at the hospital. I almost broke my foot on a botched Muay Thai roundhouse kick where I landed my foot on my opponents knee, which left my foot completely black, blue, and purple and swollen, with me hobbled and limping for a couple weeks. I almost had my jaw broken by a guy who is a gnarly bouncer and at 230 lbs out weighed me by at least 50 lbs at the time.</p><p></p><p>If and when you spar you got to have a lot of control and even then, you are putting yourself at risk of injury. Sure it can be necessary to test your skill and implement all the technique you have learned in class, but I think guys on here are all ego when they talk about sparring, sure a lot of them have walked the walk, but like a lot of people on the internet, I'm not so sure how many of them have really been thrown into the lion's den so to speak.</p><p></p><p>I want to end this by saying that guys love to say BJJ is the best martial art or Muay Thai is the best, or whatever, and point to the Gracies or whoever as an all mighty example. However in reality all martial arts have their flaws and there is no perfect marital art that will win 100% of the time, hence the need to be well rounded when it comes to striking and grappling if you really want to be fully confident in street survival situations. You can take a purple belt in BJJ, but if he's got 3 big ass Samoan dudes that want to bash his head in on the street, how good will he do rolling around on the ground trying to choke one out, when the other two are trying to stomp his head in? Like I said, every situation is different, in all reality situational awareness, being calm and diffusing a situation, or being a fast runner is the best form of self defense.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="OGNorCal707, post: 634844, member: 456"] I think these martial arts debates are getting pretty played out on the forum, ofcourse everyone chimes in and thinks they're an expert on the matter. I've done a decent bit of martial arts training over the last 3 years, mostly in Wing Chun Kung Fu, but also a good bit of Muay Thai, Filipino Kali, and about 8 months of consistent BJJ before I dropped out. That said by no means do I consider myself a martial arts expert or bad ass fighter. Personally I'm more a fan of the striking arts, but grappling is extremely important as well. For a guy to be really well rounded some stand-up and ground fighting skills are crucial, but most guys tend to either stick with just stand-up or grappling, and to be honest unless you're trying to become a MMA fighter and do cage fights, or just are really interested in becoming a beast at self defense, most guys will be fine with picking one or the other. While UFC and MMA are becoming more and more popular, I'd say outside of certain hotbeds of MMA like Las Vegas or Orange County, the average guy you'll encounter in a street fight or bar fight is most likely not going to have any martial arts training. That said, I wouldn't have a false confidence because you're a blue belt in BJJ or a brown belt in Karate that you're invincible. I do agree that some styles are going to be more effective than others, Muay Thai or boxing are probably going to be more applicable than Tai Kwon Do in most street defense situations. However I do think it's flawed thinking to say that a traditional martial art like TKD or Karate is completely useless. Also a lot of guys on here talk about sparring, and yes I will agree that training with full contact sparring will make a big difference, and yes a lot of traditional martial arts do not incorporate sparring enough. I have done a fair amount of sparring, even did about five 3 minute rounds with a Muay Thai instructor whose trained for 12 years. But, I will admit to you guys that a lot of times I straight up bitch out when it comes to sparring and haven't had a good sparring session in about 3-4 months. Why do I bitch out on sparring? Well because I have injured myself and also almost caused serious damage to a sparring partner's eye socket which required him to go get checked out at the hospital. I almost broke my foot on a botched Muay Thai roundhouse kick where I landed my foot on my opponents knee, which left my foot completely black, blue, and purple and swollen, with me hobbled and limping for a couple weeks. I almost had my jaw broken by a guy who is a gnarly bouncer and at 230 lbs out weighed me by at least 50 lbs at the time. If and when you spar you got to have a lot of control and even then, you are putting yourself at risk of injury. Sure it can be necessary to test your skill and implement all the technique you have learned in class, but I think guys on here are all ego when they talk about sparring, sure a lot of them have walked the walk, but like a lot of people on the internet, I'm not so sure how many of them have really been thrown into the lion's den so to speak. I want to end this by saying that guys love to say BJJ is the best martial art or Muay Thai is the best, or whatever, and point to the Gracies or whoever as an all mighty example. However in reality all martial arts have their flaws and there is no perfect marital art that will win 100% of the time, hence the need to be well rounded when it comes to striking and grappling if you really want to be fully confident in street survival situations. You can take a purple belt in BJJ, but if he's got 3 big ass Samoan dudes that want to bash his head in on the street, how good will he do rolling around on the ground trying to choke one out, when the other two are trying to stomp his head in? Like I said, every situation is different, in all reality situational awareness, being calm and diffusing a situation, or being a fast runner is the best form of self defense. [/QUOTE]
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