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Message: <blockquote data-quote="weambulance" data-source="post: 634855" data-attributes="member: 7174">A real world fight is one where you don't have gloves, or wraps, or rules, or a shitload of free room to dance around in, etc. I'm mostly talking about equipment in that statement. Which is exactly what Sherman was talking about.There are any number of analogies I could give to illustrate but no doubt people would take umbrage. Train in conditions as close to the conditions you will face in a fight, if you wish that training to most aptly prepare you for a fight.There's nothing hard about that. Be creative. Get headgear and less restrictive gloves that allow you to make a solid fist, plus whatever padding you feel like using. Set up some obstacles in a room that will get in your way. Try to defend yourself against someone who is allowed to tackle you, to kick you, etc. Find the limits of your skill, and figure out what you need to work on.Um. Seriously? Hang an 8 pound bowling ball from the ceiling on a rope about head height. Now punch it bare handed. That's what it feels like punching someone in the top half of the head, except a human head won't give as much, being attached to the rest of the body.The new rules where you're not wearing gloves, or wraps. Where off-angle strikes will break bones in your hand or wrist. Where you have no padding, so hitting someone in the skull also has a lot of potential to break bones, especially with a loose fist. Pretty hard to hit someone again when you just broke bones in your hand, dude. There's a good reason they taught us not to punch people in the head with a closed fist in karate. You apparently realize that a boxer might break his hand. So you only want to have one punch and you're done? What happens when your opponent ducks his head, takes your punch on his upper forehead--which really doesn't hurt that much and is unlikely to put him down--and now you have a broken hand? Hope you're wearing running shoes.And that comment about power is just stupid to say to a trained fighter bud. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes    :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> No, I'm not a boxer. But boxers aren't the only people in the world that know how to hit hard. Punching is a skill but it's far from rocket surgery. Funny you should mention that. I have, in fact, done force on force training where my opponent was shooting back with simunitions. My training is done on the move quite often, just like I would move in a real gunfight to get to cover and make it hard for my opponent to hit me.In addition I have the uncommon advantage of being an infantry combat veteran, so I've had plenty of real people shooting real bullets at me. However, that's not required or recommended for most people who just want to defend themselves effectively.I advocate retention training, extreme close quarters combat training, and other force on force practice for all people serious about defending themselves with a gun.... What? Low kicks are quick and powerful. Someone who is looking for punches won't even see one coming, nor will some clown just rushing in. It's a tool in the toolbox, and not supposed to be some chop suey one strike fight ending crap.Let someone kick you hard in the upper shin/knee area with a work boot and see how that affects your fighting ability. Unless you're some crazy South Korean guy straight out of Best of the Best and people break baseball bats over your shin on the regular, you're going to be feeling it.What you have ignored is my statement that a boxer, who spars with boxing rules only, will not be looking for threats that don't exist in the boxing ring. There are so many examples there I'm not going to bother listing any. Use your imagination. Punching and taking punches is only a small part of fighting outside the ring.</blockquote>

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