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<blockquote data-quote="Sherman" data-source="post: 634863" data-attributes="member: 3434">RE: This is why you must train a&quot;Ok, so you have full power bare knuckle sparring sessions to the face in your karate dojo?&quot;You don't have to hit someone to condition your hands.&nbsp; The point is that you have to put in the hours of training to specifically condition your fist to hit something hard at full force without injuring yourself.&nbsp; It doesn't happen automatically.&nbsp;&nbsp; The same thing applies, incidentally, to the shins of your legs.&nbsp;&nbsp; In traditional karate, the shins are conditioned by hitting them with bats.&nbsp; &quot;And you think a cross or hook doesn't use the whole body?&quot;In Karate, you learn to punch from your stomach using hip rotation.&quot;I'd say karate (very general term, some types like kyokushin are much better than others) is much worse since you don't wear protection, you can't spar at even close to the same power, speed and intensity of a real fight.&nbsp; You'll be completely unprepared for what a real fight is like and be in for a rude awakening if it ever happens.&quot;Master Oyama, developer of Kyokushin, trained under Master Funakoshi along with Master Nishiyama.&nbsp; I trained under Master Nishiyama in Shotokan style for my black belt.Boxing does condition a fighter to take a punch and keep fighting.&nbsp; Karate sparring maintains full power and speed, in addition to control, by delivering the blow at full power but stopping at the target.&nbsp; At the black belt level, limited contact is allowed to keep it painful.Here is a picture of Master Oyama hitting a traditional makiwara.[attachment=24164]</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sherman, post: 634863, member: 3434"] [b]RE: This is why you must train a[/b] "Ok, so you have full power bare knuckle sparring sessions to the face in your karate dojo?" You don't have to hit someone to condition your hands. The point is that you have to put in the hours of training to specifically condition your fist to hit something hard at full force without injuring yourself. It doesn't happen automatically. The same thing applies, incidentally, to the shins of your legs. In traditional karate, the shins are conditioned by hitting them with bats. "And you think a cross or hook doesn't use the whole body?" In Karate, you learn to punch from your stomach using hip rotation. "I'd say karate (very general term, some types like kyokushin are much better than others) is much worse since you don't wear protection, you can't spar at even close to the same power, speed and intensity of a real fight. You'll be completely unprepared for what a real fight is like and be in for a rude awakening if it ever happens." Master Oyama, developer of Kyokushin, trained under Master Funakoshi along with Master Nishiyama. I trained under Master Nishiyama in Shotokan style for my black belt. Boxing does condition a fighter to take a punch and keep fighting. Karate sparring maintains full power and speed, in addition to control, by delivering the blow at full power but stopping at the target. At the black belt level, limited contact is allowed to keep it painful. Here is a picture of Master Oyama hitting a traditional makiwara. [attachment=24164] [/QUOTE]

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