Thought experiment: If you had a daughter...

[soup]

Why not sell your children? You could probably make good money selling an American baby.

Where are the other forum elders on this issue? Tenderman?

Did Tenderman pass away?

 

[speakeasy]

Did Tenderman pass away?

:jordan:

 

[Deluge]

Let's say you had a daughter that was early-mid 20s and she was dating a guy who was exactly like you are right now, what would you think? Would you be afraid of your daughter meeting someone like you?

And part 2 of the question is, would you rather your daughter marry an alpha or a beta?

From the moment she was born, my goal would be to get her married off as a virgin at 18-20 to a guy sincerely looking to start a family, and otherwise established, pleasant and respectable. Until she gets married, she can help out around the house, volunteer, and cultivate her home-making skills.

If you're complaining about 'feminism' and 'careerism' yet you're willing to send your daughter on to college and a career, you're your own enemy.

Move to Utah and raise her Mormon and that could actually work.

 

[Courage Reborn]

Let's say you had a daughter that was early-mid 20s and she was dating a guy who was exactly like you are right now, what would you think? Would you be afraid of your daughter meeting someone like you?

And part 2 of the question is, would you rather your daughter marry an alpha or a beta?

From the moment she was born, my goal would be to get her married off as a virgin at 18-20 to a guy sincerely looking to start a family, and otherwise established, pleasant and respectable. Until she gets married, she can help out around the house, volunteer, and cultivate her home-making skills.

If you're complaining about 'feminism' and 'careerism' yet you're willing to send your daughter on to college and a career, you're your own enemy.

I see nothing wrong with a woman whose sole purpose is wife, mother, friend, grandmother and would be happy to have my daughters turn out that way. Men who disagree are feminists whether they'd like to admit it or not.

I'm willing to make an exception, but I think 95%+ of women would be content with a traditional life if started on it from an early age, their expectations were managed and they weren't brainwashed by society into thinking the life of a housewife was something shameful.

Hey Basil,

That's an interesting approach. I've often though about doing it that way, but how would you pull that off in the US where all influences culturally, teachers, friends, etc. will be pointing her to a career?

Or are you thinking you would raise her outside the US?

 

[Basil Ransom]

Let's say you had a daughter that was early-mid 20s and she was dating a guy who was exactly like you are right now, what would you think? Would you be afraid of your daughter meeting someone like you?

And part 2 of the question is, would you rather your daughter marry an alpha or a beta?

From the moment she was born, my goal would be to get her married off as a virgin at 18-20 to a guy sincerely looking to start a family, and otherwise established, pleasant and respectable. Until she gets married, she can help out around the house, volunteer, and cultivate her home-making skills.

If you're complaining about 'feminism' and 'careerism' yet you're willing to send your daughter on to college and a career, you're your own enemy.

I see nothing wrong with a woman whose sole purpose is wife, mother, friend, grandmother and would be happy to have my daughters turn out that way. Men who disagree are feminists whether they'd like to admit it or not.

I'm willing to make an exception, but I think 95%+ of women would be content with a traditional life if started on it from an early age, their expectations were managed and they weren't brainwashed by society into thinking the life of a housewife was something shameful.

Hey Basil,

That's an interesting approach. I've often though about doing it that way, but how would you pull that off in the US where all influences culturally, teachers, friends, etc. will be pointing her to a career?

Or are you thinking you would raise her outside the US?

It can be done in the US, and is on a regular basis. There are millions of people in religious sects here that live greatly at odds with modernism.

Firstly, you'd need a wife that's 100% on board with your beliefs. Anything less, and she will undermine you at every step and your best laid plans will go awry. Plus, personality is partly genetic, so you'd want a daughter to inherit the genes of a woman who is sweet and feminine.

Secondly, if you don't want average results, you can't be average. Most here agree that US cultural influence is toxic. You don't have to go to a foreign country to cut it out of your life. Simply never let it into your home. No TV, no pro sports, no shitty eating habits, no slovenly dressing, no 'equality' in your marriage. Have your wife home-school her, which is crucial. Find like-minded parents through home-schooler networks. Carefully curate what she can read - maybe you'd simply let her read anything written until 1960 and nothing afterwards.

Thirdly, find a supportive community. It may not be essential, but it will make it a lot easier. As one man, you're a nut. As a group of families, you're a 'community' - you'll have much more legitimacy to the outside world, and will also have more sway on her. Consider living somewhere rural, or in a smaller town where people aren't as obsessed with money, status and vanity like NY, DC and LA and other big cities. Or find enclaves within those cities.

It might require faking religious belief - I've known people who participated in religious communities to a degree who didn't really believe. Sometimes their kids knew that, sometimes they didn't. Maybe it's better to let your child think you are devout when you're not, I don't know.

Just don't expect to do the same shit as every other American and expect your child to turn out differently. You'll have to set an example yourself, and have a wife who's perfectly in line with you. I think the wife part is the hardest, and everything else can fall into place with enough determination. Toxic culture doesn't spring up out of nowhere - it gets a foothold through entry somewhere - if you never give it that chance, it won't take hold.

 

[Tytalus]

I have 1 son and two daughters. I talked to my wife about this, and asked her (she was super hot as a teen) how players never got anywhere with her. She said it was simple (paraphrasing) "I was taught to look signs/signals that a guy was a player and seem them as Displays of Low Value. I was also taught to see loyalty and a low notch count as Display of High Value."

I was all "huh, so that's how you and your sister stayed a virgin till marriage". My wife was 24 when I married and her sister was 28. And yes, the family takes their religion seriously.

Yet, when my wife talks about it, it's still obvious to me from body language and such that player tactics still gave her some tingles, she was simply taught to get married and take a long view. I was assertive, flirtatious and also very interested in getting married. My wife would orgasm looking at me before we got married. But between my own problems on top of being blue pill... and my wife's own issues... (mental health and being 40-60 lbs overweight) I'd divorce her in an instant if I could afford to.

 

[Jeimuzu]

Hopefully from years of exposure to me she would be quiet clued up and not as naive as some of these tarts nowadays.

Although out of the choices I'd probably prefer if she dated a guy who was Alpha.

I will not be able to keep her ass in line for all of her life so an extra hand would be welcomed.