Thoughts on the Batman v Superman movie?
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I liked the movie.
I loved the music/score throughout the movie. Snyder clearly copied Superman's interpretation in the movie from the way he portrayed Dr. Manhatten in Watchmen.
Almost identical comparison to God, by having a bunch of TV giving a bunch of philosophical implications of his existence.
Also the whole framing Superman to make him look like a badguy was a copy of Ozymandias in Watchmen framing Dr. Manhatten, making it look he destroyed all the major cities in the world.
For anyone who doesn't know what I'm talking about...go watch the Watchmen.
I liked the movie.
I loved the music/score throughout the movie. Snyder clearly copied Superman's interpretation in the movie from the way he portrayed Dr. Manhatten in Watchmen.
Almost identical comparison to God, by having a bunch of TV giving a bunch of philosophical implications of his existence.
Also the whole framing Superman to make him look like a badguy was a copy of Ozymandias in Watchmen framing Dr. Manhatten, making it look he destroyed all the major cities in the world.
For anyone who doesn't know what I'm talking about...go watch the Watchmen.
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The movie was awful...
Spoilers..
Batman is ready to kill Superman -- until its revealed that their mothers shared the same name.
Really? Great plot..
The movie was awful...
Spoilers..
Batman is ready to kill Superman -- until its revealed that their mothers shared the same name.
Really? Great plot..
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Jesus christ that sounds like fan fiction hack writing. I'm not going to see this pile of shit in the theater anyways. Just the trailer itself looked lame.
Nascimento said:
Jesus christ that sounds like fan fiction hack writing. I'm not going to see this pile of shit in the theater anyways. Just the trailer itself looked lame.
RE: Thoughts on the Batman v Supernan movie?
It was...a...
It was like a decent soup, then they decided to put everything they found in the kitchen in there hoping to make it better. Only just to ruin the very basic soup. Like chicken noodle but they thought adding cat food would make it taste better.
The premise was weak in the first place - so it could have only been a decent movie, then they just started fucking it up.
SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1) First of all Superman could do better than Lois Lane, 2 years has been rough on her.
2) If she would have killed the monster at the end, I would have just walked out.
3) The script had so many fucking flaws - he can hear her pounding for help while underwater - but can't hear batman reloading his kryptonite grenade launcher??
It was...a...
It was like a decent soup, then they decided to put everything they found in the kitchen in there hoping to make it better. Only just to ruin the very basic soup. Like chicken noodle but they thought adding cat food would make it taste better.
The premise was weak in the first place - so it could have only been a decent movie, then they just started fucking it up.
SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1) First of all Superman could do better than Lois Lane, 2 years has been rough on her.
2) If she would have killed the monster at the end, I would have just walked out.
3) The script had so many fucking flaws - he can hear her pounding for help while underwater - but can't hear batman reloading his kryptonite grenade launcher??
RE: Thoughts on the Batman v Supernan movie?
Watchmen was a very good movie with an interesting plot, clever dialogues and great character balance between the immortal and ordinary characters, plus vastly superior filming, editing and effects.
Whether it's due to Zack Snyder adapting the material better, the material itself being better, DC having more/less control over the production, I really can't say, but the great Watchmen and this clusterfuck of a movie seem hardly comparable. Just try contrasting the quiet menacing presence of Ozymandias with the arrogant nervous wreck that is Lex Luthor.
VforVlad said:
Watchmen was a very good movie with an interesting plot, clever dialogues and great character balance between the immortal and ordinary characters, plus vastly superior filming, editing and effects.
Whether it's due to Zack Snyder adapting the material better, the material itself being better, DC having more/less control over the production, I really can't say, but the great Watchmen and this clusterfuck of a movie seem hardly comparable. Just try contrasting the quiet menacing presence of Ozymandias with the arrogant nervous wreck that is Lex Luthor.
RE: Thoughts on the Batman v Supernan movie?
Shortest answer I suspect is the script. David Hayter gets comics (he was also responsible for the X-Men and X-Men 2 scripts). He wrote the original incarnation of the script, and Alan Moore (who otherwise hated the whole fucking idea) said that the way Hayter wrote it was about as close as you could get to a faithful adaptation of his story.
Hayter was originally slated to direct and write it, but pulled out over creative differences. Alex Tse then redid the script. Dave Gibbons (who did the artwork) was an adviser on the film.
As movies go, it's a decent shot at adapting a comic book, but I think it's Watchmen's brilliance as a graphic novel, and Moore/Gibbons' brilliance as inadvertent storyboaders, that shines through more than Synder's filmmaking skills. The film has the same gloomy mis en scene all through it. We can perhaps breathe a sigh of relief that it didn't make much over its production budget, guaranteeing it'll never have a sequel.
Handsome Creepy Eel said:
Shortest answer I suspect is the script. David Hayter gets comics (he was also responsible for the X-Men and X-Men 2 scripts). He wrote the original incarnation of the script, and Alan Moore (who otherwise hated the whole fucking idea) said that the way Hayter wrote it was about as close as you could get to a faithful adaptation of his story.
Hayter was originally slated to direct and write it, but pulled out over creative differences. Alex Tse then redid the script. Dave Gibbons (who did the artwork) was an adviser on the film.
As movies go, it's a decent shot at adapting a comic book, but I think it's Watchmen's brilliance as a graphic novel, and Moore/Gibbons' brilliance as inadvertent storyboaders, that shines through more than Synder's filmmaking skills. The film has the same gloomy mis en scene all through it. We can perhaps breathe a sigh of relief that it didn't make much over its production budget, guaranteeing it'll never have a sequel.
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That opening credits scene for Watchmen is pretty great though and really reminds you of the graphic novel. Zach Snyder hasn't really done anything on that level in a long time though. His work has a flamboyant style over substance feel to it much like Michael Bay's shit.
Paracelsus said:
That opening credits scene for Watchmen is pretty great though and really reminds you of the graphic novel. Zach Snyder hasn't really done anything on that level in a long time though. His work has a flamboyant style over substance feel to it much like Michael Bay's shit.
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Re: #3 How the fuck did anyone figure out that Luthor was responsible for the bombing? That was the perfect crime. It was like they sent him to prison just so they'd have an excuse to make him bald.
And how was Superman able to pick up the kryptonite pike that incapacitated him 30 mins earlier and fly with it?
The writers blew their load by using Doomsday and then butchering his origin/powers. A better choice for the climatic fight would've been Metallo. Luthor could've built him for the gov't as a Superman deterrent but embedded software that would let him manually control the robot. Or Solomon Grundy since they clearly wanted a super-strong creature who could cause massive damage.
But DC live-action movies are hit or miss:
They're direct-to-dvd films are very good, much better than Marvel's:
samsamsam said:
Re: #3 How the fuck did anyone figure out that Luthor was responsible for the bombing? That was the perfect crime. It was like they sent him to prison just so they'd have an excuse to make him bald.
And how was Superman able to pick up the kryptonite pike that incapacitated him 30 mins earlier and fly with it?
The writers blew their load by using Doomsday and then butchering his origin/powers. A better choice for the climatic fight would've been Metallo. Luthor could've built him for the gov't as a Superman deterrent but embedded software that would let him manually control the robot. Or Solomon Grundy since they clearly wanted a super-strong creature who could cause massive damage.
But DC live-action movies are hit or miss:
They're direct-to-dvd films are very good, much better than Marvel's:
RE: Thoughts on the Batman v Supernan movie?
That scene was pretty contrived.
Superman "You're letting him kill Martha!"
Batman "Why did you say that name?"
Why indeed? First off, why would Superman call her by her first name? He normally calls her "mom."
Secondly, why would he think Batman knows who the fuck he's talking about?
A normal person, or a character in a better written movie, would say "You're letting him kill my mother!"
But no, the writers couldn't figure that one out.
All in all a second-rate movie, worth watching once. Not twice.
Nascimento said:
That scene was pretty contrived.
Superman "You're letting him kill Martha!"
Batman "Why did you say that name?"
Why indeed? First off, why would Superman call her by her first name? He normally calls her "mom."
Secondly, why would he think Batman knows who the fuck he's talking about?
A normal person, or a character in a better written movie, would say "You're letting him kill my mother!"
But no, the writers couldn't figure that one out.
All in all a second-rate movie, worth watching once. Not twice.
spokepoker
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I'm still trying to figure out if it's even worth the time to grab a torrent of.
I'm still trying to figure out if it's even worth the time to grab a torrent of.
RE: Thoughts on the Batman v Supernan movie?
Trust me, it's not.
spokepoker said:
Trust me, it's not.
RE: Thoughts on the Batman v Supernan movie?
I still keep laughing about when Batman had oneitis to kill Superman, to get revenge for Waynecorp getting demolished and his parents getting killed. It kind of reminded me of when I got obsessed over a certain girl. I lifted weights...was practicing being confident...tried not to be shy. (Thought I was doing all the right things, so that this chick had no way to shoot me down.) Them bam....the day I ask her out in high school, she told me she had a boyfriend....and she did. I got pissed, just like Batman did when Superman said the name of his momma. Batman's world of rage and revenge was robbed from him, just like that.
Never get obsessed over one person or thing. You might be succesful. But it is better to diversify you assests. IE: women, time, hobbies, money, etc
I still keep laughing about when Batman had oneitis to kill Superman, to get revenge for Waynecorp getting demolished and his parents getting killed. It kind of reminded me of when I got obsessed over a certain girl. I lifted weights...was practicing being confident...tried not to be shy. (Thought I was doing all the right things, so that this chick had no way to shoot me down.) Them bam....the day I ask her out in high school, she told me she had a boyfriend....and she did. I got pissed, just like Batman did when Superman said the name of his momma. Batman's world of rage and revenge was robbed from him, just like that.
Never get obsessed over one person or thing. You might be succesful. But it is better to diversify you assests. IE: women, time, hobbies, money, etc
TornadoByProxy
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RE: Thoughts on the Batman v Supernan movie?
I guess I'm in the minority. I liked it. I like how it is gritty. No bullshitting around like the goofy avengers. And I'm not a zack Snyder fan. I thought BvS is better than Star Trek 2, avengers 2, Godzilla, watchmen, and of course better than sucker punch, pacific rim, and Star Wars prequels. So it's not a flaming pile of shit as some have said.
I guess I'm in the minority. I liked it. I like how it is gritty. No bullshitting around like the goofy avengers. And I'm not a zack Snyder fan. I thought BvS is better than Star Trek 2, avengers 2, Godzilla, watchmen, and of course better than sucker punch, pacific rim, and Star Wars prequels. So it's not a flaming pile of shit as some have said.
I watched a bootleg copy of this flick over the weekend and thought it was semi-enjoyable at best.
Highlights (Possible Spoilers): Bad ass giant evil monster, looked like Gollum pinned 3grams of test a week for 200 years.
Amy Adams looking amazing for her age.
Ben Affleck, I THOUGHT was going to be the worse Batman ever, ended up being a total fucking Alpha Stud.
Awesome presence and display of power.
The Bad: Superman is such a bitch in this movie, he's the White Knight Deity.
After the End Credits they should of showed the REAL ENDING, where Amy Adams is riding Batman's cock back in his mansion and Superman is jerking it while watching in his Ghostly Cucked form.
Highlights (Possible Spoilers): Bad ass giant evil monster, looked like Gollum pinned 3grams of test a week for 200 years.
Amy Adams looking amazing for her age.
Ben Affleck, I THOUGHT was going to be the worse Batman ever, ended up being a total fucking Alpha Stud.
Awesome presence and display of power.
The Bad: Superman is such a bitch in this movie, he's the White Knight Deity.
After the End Credits they should of showed the REAL ENDING, where Amy Adams is riding Batman's cock back in his mansion and Superman is jerking it while watching in his Ghostly Cucked form.
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