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To what extent do women take long-term consequences into account before having sex?
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<blockquote data-quote="questor70" data-source="post: 1062587" data-attributes="member: 12560"><p>This is something I'm struggling with at present...</p><p></p><p>Having some initial chemistry is a lot easier than trying to find someone who has the same long-term objectives in a relationship. When I'm talking about long-term, of course, I'm talking about marriage and kids.</p><p></p><p>Women know if they interrogate a guy right off the bat on marriage and kids it will risk scaring him off. So I don't think it's that women are playing mental games to rationalize casual sex as much as they leave the polarizing issue of marriage/kids off the table in the hopes that the relationship will just naturally strengthen to the point where the guy will want what she wants (a real foolish assumption of course).</p><p></p><p>The reason I'm struggling with it is I already have a kid who is close to graduating high school. I am NOT going to start a new family. The highest SMV women I am likely to date are going to be childless and still in their 30s, hence the biological clock will be ticking loudly whether they are hiding it or not.</p><p></p><p>I would think the same dilemma would face younger guys who never want to have kids. The topic of marriage and kids is something you have to keep avoiding for as long as possible.</p><p></p><p>Nobody wants to be hit up with high expectations of any kind early in the relationship, but we all have them, and if you wait until you've made a big investment in the relationship to know that you don't share common goals it's a landmine waiting to go off.</p><p></p><p>Like right now I have a pretty strange situation. I connected with an HB8 online. She's a widow with twin girls. So having more kids isn't an issue. But right off the bat she laid this baggage story on me about how the last guy she was with went all the way to engagement and then called the wedding off last minute. So she starts copy and pasting what looks like a prebaked questionaire about loyalty and commitment. And this is someone I've never even met yet (it's just phone text) so I don't know whether she's WORTH any of this loyalty or commitment. It's totally hypothetical. And she's naive enough to think she can just take a guy's responses at face value without really sizing him up in person? Who wants to navigate through that kind of obstacle course, knowing if down the road you want to break up (for simple honest reasons) you're going to be accused of being an asshole? This is the big reason why an HB8 is unattached.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="questor70, post: 1062587, member: 12560"] This is something I'm struggling with at present... Having some initial chemistry is a lot easier than trying to find someone who has the same long-term objectives in a relationship. When I'm talking about long-term, of course, I'm talking about marriage and kids. Women know if they interrogate a guy right off the bat on marriage and kids it will risk scaring him off. So I don't think it's that women are playing mental games to rationalize casual sex as much as they leave the polarizing issue of marriage/kids off the table in the hopes that the relationship will just naturally strengthen to the point where the guy will want what she wants (a real foolish assumption of course). The reason I'm struggling with it is I already have a kid who is close to graduating high school. I am NOT going to start a new family. The highest SMV women I am likely to date are going to be childless and still in their 30s, hence the biological clock will be ticking loudly whether they are hiding it or not. I would think the same dilemma would face younger guys who never want to have kids. The topic of marriage and kids is something you have to keep avoiding for as long as possible. Nobody wants to be hit up with high expectations of any kind early in the relationship, but we all have them, and if you wait until you've made a big investment in the relationship to know that you don't share common goals it's a landmine waiting to go off. Like right now I have a pretty strange situation. I connected with an HB8 online. She's a widow with twin girls. So having more kids isn't an issue. But right off the bat she laid this baggage story on me about how the last guy she was with went all the way to engagement and then called the wedding off last minute. So she starts copy and pasting what looks like a prebaked questionaire about loyalty and commitment. And this is someone I've never even met yet (it's just phone text) so I don't know whether she's WORTH any of this loyalty or commitment. It's totally hypothetical. And she's naive enough to think she can just take a guy's responses at face value without really sizing him up in person? Who wants to navigate through that kind of obstacle course, knowing if down the road you want to break up (for simple honest reasons) you're going to be accused of being an asshole? This is the big reason why an HB8 is unattached. [/QUOTE]
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