That is the reality. After reading some of these lists, I don’t know where you guys think you are going to find these women. They only really exist in insular, ultra conservative small towns, and even then, the window to meet them without being a creeper on high school girls is tiny. Super trad, virgin women will be in a rush to marry out of high school, or otherwise slip off to college and shed their modesty.
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Yeah, it seems like the gamma is a hypocrite at heart that wants to be viewed by others as good without actually having integrity. Kind of like the Pharisees if I’m thinking about it.
It seems the proper way to view acceptance is to accept Truth (who is Christ) and His Providence and being conformed to Him in His commandments (how we love Him) and trusting that His Providence is just and meeciful even if I don’t feel it to be so.
Do you think there is a strong/healthy form of acceptance that is not inverted like the scum that is the “acceptance dogma” you speak of above?
Good comment.
Yes, we should see life as the gift that it is (warts and all). The earth is a school for the soul. God has a purpose and plan for everyone. Thus, see every challenge as an opportunity to learn and grow.
The evil spiritual purpose behind acceptance dogma is to placate the person so they cannot experience growth. It infantilizes victims and paralyzes others through thought-crime. Satan is ultimately at war for the souls of Men. Failure to learn and grow from our lot in life can lead to a hardened heart (and spiritual death).
Think back to that last video: the man born without limbs. He was suicidal until he learned to accept his lot in life and see his challenges as opportunities. If he can do it, we all can.
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Fantastic. I agree. Thank you for your wisdom brother. I was greatly edified by it. May God help us endure meaningfully as we become more like Him through His grace and mercy.
I would even say the most ideal women aren't in those very rural places. My church is very conservative and we are in the heart of evil/liberalism. We are strong BECAUSE we have this local opposition. We are sharpened because of it. And the females in my church are pretty much all trad, modest, would make great wives. Maybe 25 percent are older and have lived in a lot of sin, like me, but they are repentant. I am single just because I am not ready for marriage, not because there aren't options.
The very rural, conservative places seem like they would be full of prospective wives but the truth is more that their faith isn't very strong because they haven't been tested. When temptations come around, they will jump ship.
I'm not trying to dissuade anyone from these kinds of girls as they are certainly better than 90 % of city girls, but just saying that it is the diamonds in the rough that are the real prizes.
Where I live, there are christian communities (protestants and Catholics) where there are adult virgin christian women waiting to get courted and find a husband but they are usually ugly and/or super exigent. The pretty ones are taken fast by christian chads.
The best options are to better your self financially and physically and try to be part of based christian communities. The good thing about christian women though is that you don't need game impress them since they are supposed to be courted not picked up.
That's why I basically only care about two things regarding women for marriage: how christian she is and how pretty she is. Everything else is secondary to me.
The exception being is of how much she loves me. When a woman really loves a man she will take his beliefs.
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What is your view of women with pierced tongues? How bad is that?
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1. If she uses vulgar and insulting language regularly that's a huge red flag.
2. If she dated much older men who do not match her sexual market place value, she is most likely materialist.
3. If she is prone to anger quickly, she may be bipolar and lack the happy gene.
2. If she dated much older men who do not match her sexual market place value, she is most likely materialist.
3. If she is prone to anger quickly, she may be bipolar and lack the happy gene.
It's a mild red flag, but not as strong as pierced nipples.
Sharing this story here cause I dont have posting privileges yet but need to get this off my chest:
Match on Tinder with some 21 year old. Okay sure she's young but that's not always a problem in this part of the world. More importantly: tall, slender, very good looking, no tattoos, no piercings, tasteful photos, in school (starting grad school this year in something reasonable).
I'm traveling back and forth so we text for about two weeks. Everything good, she says she's not a party girl, doesn't drink, isn't vaxxed, has a good relationship with her father and mother (not divorced) and generally hints at looking for something serious. She lives a few hours from me, but I have friends in her town so I tell her I'm looking to drop by very soon over there and we can meet face to face. She is very enthusiastic about this.
Fast forward to the first date: all goes very smooth. We like each other very much, she's shy, timid and feminine, seems like she has long-term potential. I take her out to a nice resto, walk along the beach, light kiss goodnight, tell her I can see her in a couple of days again. Only thing that came out is that when I asked her why she didn't drink she said "I used to but then... something happened." I assume the typical story of getting drunk and having a regret-filled one-night stand. It doesn't really shock me as long as she has clearly learned from her experience. I give a knowing laugher and paid it no further mind.
Second date, we go bowling and arcades. She bumps into a number of kids she sees at her job as an animator at a summer camp, she seems extremely motherly and caring. I really felt like I was starting to fall in love.
Then we go for a walk downtown. She bumps into an old friend of hers who was wearing her stewardess uniform. I understand she used to work as a stewardess herself. This sends a very small potential alarm in my head cause young stewardesses are somewhat known for being "free spirits" when they're hopping destinations.
We continue our walk and she tells me she has to go to a friend's party in a few hours. I say:
Me: "Cool, is it a birthday party?"
Her: "Not quite"
Me: "Oh? What is it then?"
Her: [pause, she didn't want to answer but I playfully proded] "It's kind of like an anniversary"
Me: "Wedding anniversary?"
Her: "More like celebrating her 1 year of sobriety"
Me: "Oh so she was an alcoholic?"
Her: "No it was... Meth" [red flag for sure at this point]
Me: "Oh you have friends who were on Meth, you hang out with cool people then" [Sarcasm]
Her: "Yeah haha.."
Me: [At this point I feel due diligence is in order] "So let me ask you, have you ever had a boyfriend before?"
Her: "Nothing serious" [red flag]
Me: "Oh okay so just... casual stuff?"
Her: "Yeah exactly" [Yellow alarm has now been set off, but she's just 21 years old, how bad can it be]
Me: At this point I pull the inevitable question I have gotten used to ask: "Ok cool. No problem, so let's be real, how many men have you been with?"
Her: [pause] "Uhhh... not sure I can answer"
Me: "It's all good, don't worry, I'm not judgemental" [lie on my part but I need to get the info]
Her: "Well actually... I'm not sure"
Me: "No need to be an exact number, just approximately"
Her: "No well I mean I don't remember" [Red alarm]
Me: "What? Just throw out some interval, between this and this number"
Her: "[Pause] I think somewhere between 100 and 200"
Me: "Hahaha, you're funny. Nice one"
Her: "No...it's not a joke"
My heart sank, I got dizzy. We were holding hands and I just became extremely stiff and let go. She tried to find my hand again but it was limp. I asked her how this was possible, she said that she herself was on meth for over a year but she's turned a new leaf and has been clean for a year save a relapse in may. Says she doesn't remember all the guys that banged her while she was high.
I can just imagine her getting thrown around the room like a sock for anonymous meth heads to cum in, condom use not obligatory. Or her blowing dudes for a hit. I feel like throwing up at this point.
I told her I needed to sit down. We found a cafe. She tells me not to worry, that she's not the person she used to be. She had an almost defiant smile and seemed surprised at my extremely visible disappointment that I did not try to hide. After making sure she wasn't fucking with me, I wished her good luck and parted ways.
TL;DR: Sometimes the red flags aren't that obvious at first... Do your due diligence, but you might still get trust issues.
Match on Tinder with some 21 year old. Okay sure she's young but that's not always a problem in this part of the world. More importantly: tall, slender, very good looking, no tattoos, no piercings, tasteful photos, in school (starting grad school this year in something reasonable).
I'm traveling back and forth so we text for about two weeks. Everything good, she says she's not a party girl, doesn't drink, isn't vaxxed, has a good relationship with her father and mother (not divorced) and generally hints at looking for something serious. She lives a few hours from me, but I have friends in her town so I tell her I'm looking to drop by very soon over there and we can meet face to face. She is very enthusiastic about this.
Fast forward to the first date: all goes very smooth. We like each other very much, she's shy, timid and feminine, seems like she has long-term potential. I take her out to a nice resto, walk along the beach, light kiss goodnight, tell her I can see her in a couple of days again. Only thing that came out is that when I asked her why she didn't drink she said "I used to but then... something happened." I assume the typical story of getting drunk and having a regret-filled one-night stand. It doesn't really shock me as long as she has clearly learned from her experience. I give a knowing laugher and paid it no further mind.
Second date, we go bowling and arcades. She bumps into a number of kids she sees at her job as an animator at a summer camp, she seems extremely motherly and caring. I really felt like I was starting to fall in love.
Then we go for a walk downtown. She bumps into an old friend of hers who was wearing her stewardess uniform. I understand she used to work as a stewardess herself. This sends a very small potential alarm in my head cause young stewardesses are somewhat known for being "free spirits" when they're hopping destinations.
We continue our walk and she tells me she has to go to a friend's party in a few hours. I say:
Me: "Cool, is it a birthday party?"
Her: "Not quite"
Me: "Oh? What is it then?"
Her: [pause, she didn't want to answer but I playfully proded] "It's kind of like an anniversary"
Me: "Wedding anniversary?"
Her: "More like celebrating her 1 year of sobriety"
Me: "Oh so she was an alcoholic?"
Her: "No it was... Meth" [red flag for sure at this point]
Me: "Oh you have friends who were on Meth, you hang out with cool people then" [Sarcasm]
Her: "Yeah haha.."
Me: [At this point I feel due diligence is in order] "So let me ask you, have you ever had a boyfriend before?"
Her: "Nothing serious" [red flag]
Me: "Oh okay so just... casual stuff?"
Her: "Yeah exactly" [Yellow alarm has now been set off, but she's just 21 years old, how bad can it be]
Me: At this point I pull the inevitable question I have gotten used to ask: "Ok cool. No problem, so let's be real, how many men have you been with?"
Her: [pause] "Uhhh... not sure I can answer"
Me: "It's all good, don't worry, I'm not judgemental" [lie on my part but I need to get the info]
Her: "Well actually... I'm not sure"
Me: "No need to be an exact number, just approximately"
Her: "No well I mean I don't remember" [Red alarm]
Me: "What? Just throw out some interval, between this and this number"
Her: "[Pause] I think somewhere between 100 and 200"
Me: "Hahaha, you're funny. Nice one"
Her: "No...it's not a joke"
My heart sank, I got dizzy. We were holding hands and I just became extremely stiff and let go. She tried to find my hand again but it was limp. I asked her how this was possible, she said that she herself was on meth for over a year but she's turned a new leaf and has been clean for a year save a relapse in may. Says she doesn't remember all the guys that banged her while she was high.
I can just imagine her getting thrown around the room like a sock for anonymous meth heads to cum in, condom use not obligatory. Or her blowing dudes for a hit. I feel like throwing up at this point.
I told her I needed to sit down. We found a cafe. She tells me not to worry, that she's not the person she used to be. She had an almost defiant smile and seemed surprised at my extremely visible disappointment that I did not try to hide. After making sure she wasn't fucking with me, I wished her good luck and parted ways.
TL;DR: Sometimes the red flags aren't that obvious at first... Do your due diligence, but you might still get trust issues.
Thanks for sharing brother. That’s difficult to go through. Thank God you learned about this earlier rather than later. It’s hard to spot these flags.
Whoa...
If, when they smile you can see the whites above the pupils. Sure sign of crazy.
This sort of thing makes one understand why they keep women on a short leash in the middle east. Those who would say this is barbaric would do well to remember that they weren't allowed to roam wild & free in Christian countries either when those still existed. This modern "freedom" is sheer lunacy, rather like giving a small child a loaded revolver to play with; what do you think is going to happen?
1) Is not adamantly against abortion
2) Hates her father
3) Has an obsession with dogs/cats
4) A wine addict
5) Has male friends
6) Has sexually promiscuous friends
7) Is not attentive to you
8) Gets angry easily
9) Does not seem to care about marriage/family
10) She is active on social media
Bonus: She dresses loud
2) Hates her father
3) Has an obsession with dogs/cats
4) A wine addict
5) Has male friends
6) Has sexually promiscuous friends
7) Is not attentive to you
8) Gets angry easily
9) Does not seem to care about marriage/family
10) She is active on social media
Bonus: She dresses loud
I have 1 which I notice in majority of milennial women. Seems to me it is less with zoomer women.
A lot of these women are takers. As in they want stuff from a man all the time. It is very unattractive to men who are aware of this behaviour. I think some women learn this from a young age to take the seed, energy, resources and time from a man and do it in such an unapologetically aggressive way that is a big turn off.
The only way to deal with this type of woman is cut off attention and not put any energy into her as it is a very onesided relationship this way. I think this also weakens the man after a while.
If you are going to do it as a woman, make sure you give something back to the man as well. Or make it less obvious. Instead of draining him of everything.
Of course it is also the mans job to not let this happen but it seems to me majority of women have this style of relationships with men. They cannot do differently.
A lot of these women are takers. As in they want stuff from a man all the time. It is very unattractive to men who are aware of this behaviour. I think some women learn this from a young age to take the seed, energy, resources and time from a man and do it in such an unapologetically aggressive way that is a big turn off.
The only way to deal with this type of woman is cut off attention and not put any energy into her as it is a very onesided relationship this way. I think this also weakens the man after a while.
If you are going to do it as a woman, make sure you give something back to the man as well. Or make it less obvious. Instead of draining him of everything.
Of course it is also the mans job to not let this happen but it seems to me majority of women have this style of relationships with men. They cannot do differently.
Lots of big red flags are to do with their relationship to their father. When I was young and dumb I was in a long term relationship with a girl whose father was a sulky child. We went on holiday and he was whining that a particular historic town we visited was boring, that it was too hot and he was sulking because there was nowhere to find a cold drink.
In addition to this, she was his little princess. Nothing was ever good enough for her. She had allergies which I am convinced was from him not allowing her to do anything unclean as a child. Basically her model of a man was ruined by an overbearing man baby.
If I wasn't such a cucked loser at the time, I would have seen this red flag from the start and wouldn't have invested so much into the relationship.
In addition to this, she was his little princess. Nothing was ever good enough for her. She had allergies which I am convinced was from him not allowing her to do anything unclean as a child. Basically her model of a man was ruined by an overbearing man baby.
If I wasn't such a cucked loser at the time, I would have seen this red flag from the start and wouldn't have invested so much into the relationship.
They keep them on a short leash and some of them STILL get around. Just another reason why your entire society and community must have an eye on them. A few will STILL slip through the cracks and mess up their own lives and the lives of others.