Trump-Biden Debates


Biden looks really old. His masonic tie tells you all you need to know about what to choose. Good or evil. Leftists you can even hear them for awhile until they start going beserk on the clima change and police defunding. Biden face when Trump tells him antifa will overthrow him too. Leftist can´t produce any quality candidate. They became such a mafia which can only pull up lunatics as candidates which have to pander to the whims and stupidity of their satanic/shadow masters. It would be good to have younger candidates.
"Biden´s son Hunter was a jesuit volunteer. he served as a Jesuit volunteer at a church inPortland, Oregon"
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Biden was wired eh? I was thinking as much by the way he was spacing-out during Trump's time, like he wasn't even listening or even present. At some point they must have told him to look smart because you see him try and snap into the moment. It looked like he was reading from cards or something, but I guess it was just the messages coming in.
After catching up this morning here are my comprehensive thoughts on the debates...

1) Trump won. Trump was a little too aggressive, came off like a bully (at least wahman will see it this way), but he was the clear winner. Biden looked weak, had no plans or ideas, was corned and couldn't say "Law and Order", couldn't denounce Antifa, trashed the Green New Deal, and seemed to make things up on the fly.

2) I am surprised more of you were not already aware of Chris Wallace. His dad Mike Wallace was a globalist member of the elite media (60 Minutes - CBS) as well. Chris Wallace exposed himself last night for being the anti-America/anti-Nationalist shill that he is. I am just surprised more here were not aware of who Chris Wallace is.

3) I was proud of Trump to not throw the Proud Boys under the bus. I was proud of Trump to trash the Racist Training programs. I was proud of Trump to call out Antifa. I was surprised Chris Wallace was dumb enough to attack Trump on these things.

4) The line of the night was when Trump told Biden he better be careful about Antifa because they would overthrow him as well.


Next up is pence, he is pretty smooth at these type if events can more than handle himself. Also the childless prosecutor is very unlikable.

That's going to be the interesting one, because a lot of folks are seeing it has the real Dem presidential nominee.

Pence has proven himself to be an extraordinarily loyal Smithers to Trump's Burns. Some call him a lapdog and a sycophant, but when you listen to the man, he is very effective of cleaning up Trump's bombast and dialing back the tour-de-force chaotic rhetoric into a nice morning decaf sipped against tender, dulcet coffeehouse jazz for the 'middle-ground' voters.

Contrast that with Harris, who is shrill, bitchy, and is going to go hard, attacking Pence for anything and everything and dismissively cackling at most responses.

All Pence has to do are three things...
1) Policy and achievements
2) Call out Harris' duplicity - of which there are volumes of instances (prison labor for fire control, arresting blacks, sleeping her way to her position, poor debate performance, antagonism towards running mate)
3) Be stalwart
...and Harris will come off as a harpie. You think you didn't like Hillary? Imagine a Hillary who thinks she's 100% black, Waiting to Exhale Hillary who cuts up your clothes and keys your car because you glanced at her sister's ass six years ago.

Ain't nobody got time for that.

I have full confidence in Pence.


I turned off the debate after 30 minutes because if was a lot the same old ground. Wallace was clearly biased, and not holding Biden to answer legit questions.

I've seen a lot of reaction that it was a tie. Maybe not. Here is a favorable take from Zero Hedge, at least favorable in the sense that many are able to see through the Democrats lies and understand what they have in store for the country:

Two Crucial Things Emerged From The First Presidential Debate

Authored by Andrea Widburg via,
The short version of the debate is that Biden did well if one ignored that almost every other statement he made was a lie or fantasy; Trump dominated him, almost too aggressively; and Chris Wallace may have been the worst and most obviously biased moderator since Candy Crowley. Most significantly, though, Biden and Trump each made a critical point. Biden’s was a tacit admission that, if he is elected president, he will preside over the end of the filibuster, allowing Democrats to pack the courts and add two new Democrat-majority states. Trump’s point was that he’s holding damning evidence about the Democrats’ coup attempt.

Let’s begin with Biden, whose squirming on court-packing and the filibuster promises the end of the American experiment. Chris Wallace, in one of the few tough questions he posed to Biden, said this

So my question to you is, you have refused in the past to talk about it, are you willing to tell the American tonight whether or not you will support either ending the filibuster or packing the court?

Biden refused to answer, something the Trump quickly challenged. Here’s the colloquy:
BIDEN: Whatever position I take on that, that’ll become the issue. The issue is the American people should speak. You should go out and vote. You’re voting now. Vote and let your Senators know strongly how you feel.
TRUMP: Are you going to pack the court?
BIDEN: Vote now.
TRUMP: Are you going to pack the court?
BIDEN: Make sure you, in fact, let people know, your Senators.
TRUMP: He doesn’t want to answer the question.
BIDEN: I’m not going to answer the question.
TRUMP: Why wouldn’t you answer that question? You want to put a lot of new Supreme Court Justices. Radical left.
BIDEN: Will you shut up, man?
TRUMP: Listen, who is on your list, Joe? Who’s on your list?
WALLACE: Gentlemen, I think we’ve ended this-
BIDEN: This is so un-Presidential.
TRUMP: He’s going to pack the court. He is not going to give a list.
You can see that Biden made a nonsense statement to avoid answering whether he will preserve the filibuster and the Supreme Court’s current system of nine justices. Shamefully, Wallace let him get away with not answering. Wallace surely understands that Biden’s handlers plan to end the filibuster so that they can pack the court and add D.C. and Puerto Rico as states.

Packing the court ends the American experiment as we know it. It means that the Supreme Court will be a political body that will exist solely to put its imprimatur on Democrat policies. And for those who say, “Well, if they pack the Court, then Republicans will pack it more when they’re in power,” that’s sadly foolish.

If Democrats pack the Court, there are no more Republicans. The whole democratic republic will be over. Once Democrats pack the Court, they never again need to persuade American voters to support their policies. One of their first policies in that new era will be to add hard-left Washington D.C. and Puerto Rico as the 51st and 52nd American states. That means four more Democrat Senate votes and a permanent Democrat party majority.

You see, the hard-left Democrat party views our American political system the same way Turkey president Recep Tayyip Erdoğan viewed democracy before becoming a dictator for life: “Democracy is like a train. We shall get out when we arrive at the station we want.” This time around, once the Democrats win, they will change the rules so they can never lose again.

Heed this warning: If Biden wins, our constitutional America is gone. We will be a socialist country. If you don’t believe me, just read the Democrat platform. They’re not hiding their goals.

Trump, though, might have some aces up his sleeve. When the subject of a “transition” came up (based on Biden's assumption that he will win), Trump stated that he’d been denied a transition period. Instead, there was a coup attempt (emphasis mine):
There was no transition because they came after me trying to do a coup. They came after me spying on my campaign. They started from the day I won and even before I won. From the day I came down the escalator with our First Lady. They were a disaster. They were a disgrace to our country. And we’ve caught ‘em. We’ve caught ‘em all. We’ve got it all on tape. We’ve caught ‘em all.
Maybe Trump’s exaggerating, but I don’t think so. And maybe he’s going to keep that evidence secret, but I don’t think that either.
My guess is that this October, the Trump administration is going to release one piece of evidence after another showing that the Democrat party, from Hillary to Obama, and from the FBI to the CIA to the DOJ, and everywhere in between, engaged in a massive, seditious conspiracy to overturn the results of the 2016 election. Indeed, the information cascade has already begun with the release of DNI John Ratcliffe’s letter about Hillary’s conceiving of the Russia hoax.

In sum, amidst all the sound and fury of the debate, these two important points emerged:
(1) If he wins, Biden will almost certainly sign off on ending the filibuster to pack the courts and add two new states for a permanent Democrat majority that will leave the Constitution behind.
(2) Trump may have announced that he’s about to reveal that the Democrats, from Obama on down, engaged in a coup against an American president.
Fakenews from both sides.

We were led to believe biden's dementia is getting worse as the days go by. Dan Bongino said biden's condition is grave.
BUT biden looked far from "grave". In fact, he more than held his own - as much as it's difficult for me to admit.

I have given up on Trump, the posts can be seen in the "Complaints about Donald Trump" thread. But the only way Biden "held his own" was expecting Biden to pass out on stage or to just walk off. He didn't pass out or walk off, but he sounded awful.

He got confused when talking, his voice was weak, he had no fight in him. He looked like an old grandpa getting frustrated with the nurse being late with his pudding. Chris Wallace had to save him multiple times, and that was just the looks of things. Dig into what he said..

- Antifa magically doesn't exist and doesn't have to be denounced.
- He doesn't support law and order
- He decided on the fly to stop supporting the Green New Deal for the "Biden Deal" which he obviously made up on the spot and sounded like a 5 year old making things up to their parents.

It was pretty embarrassing.


Trump would do better just to STFU.
I agree constantly interrupting when it is the other guys turn to talk is just garbage tier behavior. Civilized debate used to be a thing, it calls for self control and you use the time when the other guy is talking to think through your response. This debate was an embarrassment for the whole country. If you want to be the law and order candidate how about follow the rules and show some self constraint. You have plenty of time to call the other guy a loser or a liar if you can't think of anything better to say. I am a Trump voter because the other side is literally insane with anti-white hatred but I don't like what I saw during this debate. I have seen better High School debates, both of these guys and the moderator behaved like clowns.