Trump-Biden Debates

budoslavic

Peacock
Gold Member
Why do you think this is, @budoslavic?
Why would anyone want to watch a weak and unexciting Democrat candidate whose memory is deteriorating and is being dragged around by the DNC staff like a puppet?

People are waking up to the fact that the DNC shifted so far to the left because of their radical ideologies where they are openly supporting Antifa, Socialism, Marxism, BLM, etc. I keep hearing stories about former Democrat voters who left the party and switched to Republican to vote for Trump because they realized DNC no longer supports America's values.

Americans noticed the Democratic Party is becoming so anti-USA, anti-Christian, anti-White, anti-Family and anti-Straight, what's the point of watching the debate when the Democratic Party prefers to stick with the narrative instead of talking about their policy?

Edit. Also, let's not forget the DNC Convention disaster last month in August. It was really bad.
 
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Johnny Rico

Woodpecker
After reflecting on the debate for a day my opinion is that it was moot. Everyone has already decided who they will vote for and nothing will change it. Trump and Biden squabbled and nothing of value was stated. Biden refused to answer the serious questions about his corruption, the stupid bastards statement, and his other gaffes and no Biden supporter cares - they're voting Biden because Trump is eternally racist.

This 50/50 division is what happens when empires reach their life expectancy (~250 years). The division will become more symptomatic over the next decade and no one will stop it until a revolution occurs.

Zip your face diapers up tight and enjoy the decline.
 

Neo

Pelican
Gold Member
Clearly I'm pro-Trump, but even I was getting annoyed at him constantly interrupting. If it was affecting me, I guarantee it hurt him even more with people who were on the fence.

Biden was not impressive at all, but he is very non threatening and that's the exact campaign they are going for.

This is really bad because most normies don't realize he's a trojan horse and empty vessel for the REAL Marxist agenda. They think they are voting for grandpa, but the real actors behind the scenes are preparing gulags.

Not the best result no matter how anyone spins it.
 

PillBoxer

Pigeon
Did someone tell Grandpa Joe that he had to be this surly, cranky old codger? It looks like an act and he's been running it the entire campaign.

It was not a feature of his Vice Presidency or Senate runs. He was gaffe prone and inappropriate but it's as if someone told him he had to be as brash as Trump to occupy the space. It's the kind of language you'd expect from someone wanting to start a fight except he wouldn't be able to finish it.
 

davsey27

Pigeon
I think Trump projected weakness

If you are a commander in chief

And need to mostly intervene during bidens
time speaking this shows a lack of self control.

I dont blame wallace for stepping in as it is up to systems of checks and balances to ensure that the executive branch stays within ots boundaries

A person who tries to bully his opponents and not talk about his healthcare plan saying he will release his plan shortly before the election after being in office for 3 and half years shows a lack of leadership

Joe may have difficulties with stuttering as many people do throughout the world.Its not something he chose.If anything he shows that one can overcome this and stay on stage with a bully

If he chooses to take nootropics for cognitive difficulties in order to help his issues that is his right as trump can as well.

It was nice to see biden show vulnerability and human empathy something that I don't see alot from trump.
 
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renotime

Ostrich
Gold Member
Trump went too hard, made him look a little insecure in my opinion. But when Trump debated Hillary I think he lost the first debate. I think Trump will make the proper adjustments. Everyone feels bad for Biden because he's a sick old man, so I think it would be in Trump's best interest not to act the bully picking on the crippled kid.
 

Johnny Rico

Woodpecker
Trump went too hard, made him look a little insecure in my opinion. But when Trump debated Hillary I think he lost the first debate. I think Trump will make the proper adjustments. Everyone feels bad for Biden because he's a sick old man, so I think it would be in Trump's best interest not to act the bully picking on the crippled kid.
I agree Trump did come off as more combative and insecure. He was defensive which is unlike him. Most people don't know the depth of Biden's evil and corruption and see him as Grandpa Joe. Picking on an old man, despite the fact Trump is only 3 years younger, is not a good image especially with the elderly. Boomers and up don't think for themselves they just see Orange Man berating Grandpa.
 

Dismal Operator

Kingfisher
Clearly I'm pro-Trump, but even I was getting annoyed at him constantly interrupting. If it was affecting me, I guarantee it hurt him even more with people who were on the fence.

Biden was not impressive at all, but he is very non threatening and that's the exact campaign they are going for.

This is really bad because most normies don't realize he's a trojan horse and empty vessel for the REAL Marxist agenda. They think they are voting for grandpa, but the real actors behind the scenes are preparing gulags.

Not the best result no matter how anyone spins it.
Trump spent almost the entire debate exposing that dance Biden is trying to do. There was the critical race theory part, most normies probably roll their eyes at diversity training in their corporate jobs but just go along to get along. Last night was probably the first time most people were introduced to the academic term "critical race theory," which is a large step in exposing that agenda.

Trump backed Biden into a corner with respect to packing the court. Trump got Biden trapped into disavowing the Green New Deal after he had spent the previous 20 seconds extolling its virtues. He got Biden to implicitly back indefinite coronavirus lockdowns. And finally Biden was in a box with respect to defunding the police and the riots. On virtually every issue Biden was forced to either alienate shitlibs by denouncing the aspects of his platform that he took on from the DSA wing of the party, or he was forced to alienate squishy centrist soccer moms by refusing to denounce other aspects of the platform which they find crazy.

Admittedly that may have been lost among the shenanigans, but as long as Trump keeps hitting on those themes in the subsequent debates he will be fine. At this point, there are very few people who are truly on the fence. The job now is about getting as many of your side amped up and ready to turn out, while demoralizing the other side. Trump definitely didn't win anyone new last night, but he probably motivated plenty who were predisposed to be a Trump voter but had maybe checked out, while giving Biden voters nothing to be excited about. The most common reaction to last night was something to the effect of "neither candidate won, America lost." Biden excites no one, and Trump either excites you or turns you off. That's a recipe for depressed turnout which helps Trump.
 

911

Peacock
Gold Member
I agree with Tucker's take, Trump should have been more poised and focused on delivering his message instead of trying to destabilize Biden.




LIstening to Vincent James' long take right now, I agree with his take of Biden having done well, considering, with the help of Chris Wallik aka Wallace:

 
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renotime

Ostrich
Gold Member
Trump spent almost the entire debate exposing that dance Biden is trying to do. There was the critical race theory part, most normies probably roll their eyes at diversity training in their corporate jobs but just go along to get along. Last night was probably the first time most people were introduced to the academic term "critical race theory," which is a large step in exposing that agenda.

Trump backed Biden into a corner with respect to packing the court. Trump got Biden trapped into disavowing the Green New Deal after he had spent the previous 20 seconds extolling its virtues. He got Biden to implicitly back indefinite coronavirus lockdowns. And finally Biden was in a box with respect to defunding the police and the riots. On virtually every issue Biden was forced to either alienate shitlibs by denouncing the aspects of his platform that he took on from the DSA wing of the party, or he was forced to alienate squishy centrist soccer moms by refusing to denounce other aspects of the platform which they find crazy.

Admittedly that may have been lost among the shenanigans, but as long as Trump keeps hitting on those themes in the subsequent debates he will be fine. At this point, there are very few people who are truly on the fence. The job now is about getting as many of your side amped up and ready to turn out, while demoralizing the other side. Trump definitely didn't win anyone new last night, but he probably motivated plenty who were predisposed to be a Trump voter but had maybe checked out, while giving Biden voters nothing to be excited about. The most common reaction to last night was something to the effect of "neither candidate won, America lost." Biden excites no one, and Trump either excites you or turns you off. That's a recipe for depressed turnout which helps Trump.
His delivery was poor though. I think Biden won the debate by a slim margin. The democrats just want him to get by without gaffes and if he does that they consider it a win.

He should have said something to the effect of "I want Americans to thrive and they can't do that with their businesses shut down. We can't all live in fear in our bunker like you, Joe. This is America and we have a right to live freely."

I think Donald is relying more on his rallies than the debates. It's his home turf. Just tonight he was in Minnesota.
 

Wreckingball

Pelican
The debate was weak. Yes Trump won, but he also seemed a bit unprepared and shooting from the hip, but Biden had nothing. Only strange looking black bean demon eyes.
I miss some Trump moments in this debate (remember the classic, "'Cause you'd be in jail"), except the "we got it all on tape". Besides that it was a bit of clusterfuck, many thanks to the "moderator".

now... RELEASE THE TAPE!
 

Dilated

Robin
Trump went too hard, made him look a little insecure in my opinion. But when Trump debated Hillary I think he lost the first debate. I think Trump will make the proper adjustments. Everyone feels bad for Biden because he's a sick old man, so I think it would be in Trump's best interest not to act the bully picking on the crippled kid.
Was thinking the same. Not sure if it was on purpose...but if you think about it every time Trump has a had bad night debating/interviewing/whatever...he follows it up with a knock-it-out-of-the-park performance.

Expect him to do very well the next debate.
 

homersheineken

Woodpecker
Was thinking the same. Not sure if it was on purpose...but if you think about it every time Trump has a had bad night debating/interviewing/whatever...he follows it up with a knock-it-out-of-the-park performance.

Expect him to do very well the next debate.
The last debate will be the one that matters most. It will be the freshest in people's minds right before the election. People's attention span is extremely short and has gotten worse in the last few decades. This will be forgotten by election time. My guess is he was just trying to goad Biden into getting angry or lost.

My guess is he's saving his better stuff for the later debates. Delivering a weak punch here, to set him up later.

That "We got you on tape moment" is going to be played out right before the election. That, it looks like, will be more important than the debates. This will probably be the craziest month people have seen in a looong time. And it's been completely nuts the last 7 months...
 
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