Trump-Biden Debates

Deepdiver

Crow
Gold Member
Oh comeon man,
You didn't sign the constitution with a quill.
You didn't throw tea into the Boston river.
You didn't ride up on a hill on a horse and yell that the British are coming.
lol.
A heritage American is one whose father, grandfather, great grandfather and uncles, grand uncles etc who were raised to believe in the ideals enshrined in our sacred constitution and bill of rights. Then they served in uniform as young men and took the oath to protect our sacred Constitution and the country USA created by it. They put their lives on the line for its defense.

Most are Christian raised Warriors slow in zeal to take another human life but when faced with the pure evil of the BLMA Bernie Bros and their CCP (((Globalists))) allies when we Christian Warriors are forced to take up Arms in defense of God Country and Families we will not stop till the last evil soul is eradicated.

I have personally served with European, Black, and Indigenous First Persons all Oath taking Heritage Americans all brothers bound by the righteous ideals in our sacred Constitution and Bill of Rights inspired by the holy mind and guiding hands of our creator the Lord God Almighty to serve a cause greater than themselves.

All the BLMAs and their Communist sympathizers who give aid and comfort to purely evil seditionists, traitors and insurrectionist rebellioneers will soon experience the Wrath of God Almighty... Swift judgement shall follow. Yes our beloved brother in Arms Kona is a Heritage American as his ancestors voted to be a State in our Great United States of America.

Aloha.

Nuke Boats Forever.

OG Deepdiver
 
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Thomas More

Hummingbird
Really? I've always taken it to mean the descendents of the Europeans that settled in North America up until around the founding.
I never considered myself a heritage American since my family's only been on the continent for 150 years or so.
It's not just the Mayflower descendants.

It's white American culture up through 1965, when America was still 87% white, and 11% black. It's the Americanized version of the Western European Christian civilization that dominated the world so strongly for the previous 400 years.

This is the culture the left hates to the core.
 

CynicalContrarian

Owl
Gold Member
Happened to see Hillary Clinton comment on the debate on the James Corden show.

No surprise her comments were full of dismissal & derision of & for Trump.
Yet what was also telling.
She did not really sing Biden's praises. She did not provide any reason to vote for Biden. Rather to simply vote against Trump.
She did not sell a message of hope or confidence.
Nor did she even imply that Biden won the debate.

Also, Bill Clinton popped into view towards the end, & does he look as ravaged as ever.
You wonder if certain photographs are altered in some ways, yet Bill of today on a Zoom camera looks very much like this (minus the flash) :

 
It means white people.

Aloha!
Not quite.

Blacks who have made up 10-15% of the USA population since the beginning are certainly Heritage American. It's not just color; it's about Heritage American culture and values which is something DeepDiver touched on. That said, yes, white people, who made up 85-90% of the USA population for several hundred years are going to be made a minority within a century time period. This IS a problem and people who don't acknowledge and respect that are THE problem (including white people).

If the Chinese in China were told they would go from 85% of the population to 43% in a 100 years, there would be a revolt and a closing of the borders tomorrow. In the USA and every other damn near white majority country, we can't even acknowledge the basic demographic changes and its impacts on culture and political power without being labelled a Hitler loving white supremacist. This is not acceptable; especially in light of the the preview we have gotten recently with what life will be like for minority class average white person.


 

Sam Malone

Ostrich
Gold Member
Happened to see Hillary Clinton comment on the debate on the James Corden show.

No surprise her comments were full of dismissal & derision of & for Trump.
Yet what was also telling.
She did not really sing Biden's praises. She did not provide any reason to vote for Biden. Rather to simply vote against Trump.
She did not sell a message of hope or confidence.
I actually came here to post something similar.

I didn't see the Clinton interview, but I notice the same thing, that no one ever talks about Biden's "accomplishments", even if they're way off on their opinion.

Look, if you want to put a spoiler made from wooden 2x4s on your car, I think it would be one of the stupidest things you could do. But if it's wrong, wrong, wrong, you have your reasons why, and you're still able to articulate on some level why you want to do it. Even if the end of the conversation is "But it's my car, I can do what I want to it."

Same logic with Biden.

Just as an example, take Biden's Crime Bill. Nobody says that the Crime Bill was good for getting criminals off the streets, blah blah blah. Nobody says at the end that "it's (my) opinion".

I'm not seeing the kind of passion when people talk about Joe Biden that they would if they wanted to mount that wooden spoiler on their trunk.

It's always about Biden being "not Trump".
 

Sandstorm

Kingfisher

You guys seen this?

tl;dr - Joe Biden "definitely" had a wire inside his jacket and possibly even had ultra-modern contact lenses that were feeding him his scripted lines! Watch the video and it won't seem so crazy .... His eyes looked dark and strange - I assumed it was drugs to keep him alert - could be far worse!!
 

Mike_Key

Robin
Definitely agree with this.

Aside from the die hard Trump supporters, who are always going to say "Yeah Trump won, fuck the liberals", Everyone I spoke to thought Trump came off as an annoying bully and a dick. Everyone came off annoyed by Trump's constant interruptions. I even talked to a lady who is a crazy Trump supporter and even she thought that Trump was a big let down.

Joe Biden came off as extremely relatable for the reasons you described, for looking like someone who stands up to a bully especially in the emotional way he defended both his sons (Bo and Hunter). No matter how many allegations of corruption Hunter had, there was Joe defending his son even going as far as to say that he had alcohol issues but was working through them to get his life back together. That's what a father does, no matter how fucked up your kids can be, a father always defends their kids especially against a perceived bully. He showed vulnerability and empathy which many Americans can relate to.

Also on the issues, I think Trump's attacks and arguments are horrendously bad and stupid.


COVID-19

Trump: "Oh yeah, well you Joe were very bad on Swine flu when you were in charge, you did a terrible job, you were a disaster"

Biden: "Um, 14,000 died in swine flu while 200,000 died from COVID and there was no economic recession either during swine flu"

I have no idea why Trump keeps mentioning swine flu as if its some kind of "got ya" when the death count was WAYYYY lower than COVID and even if it wasn't as deadly of a disease, they objectively handled it better then what we have now. Trump's strategists are either stupid or mental, or both. Come on bro, what are you doing? Why would you do that? :squintlol:. Throwing swine flu at Biden is not an effective attack as Trump thinks it is.

Trump's strategy is essentially to say "Trump did an amazing job handling COVID, amazing, tremendous, and phenomenal job" and try to override the reality of 200,000 deaths and 7 million infected through sheer bravado and marketing. Its just not going to happen. Trump's poll numbers on COVID are abysmal and going down fast, Biden is viewed much better on the issue. If I were Trump I would say "Ok American people, I know its bad right now, here are the steps we are going to do to improve it, I have a plan and a goal, these are the dates I want to achieve this by", etc... See that's what a leader does. Trump on the other hand does not acknowledge that things are bad, he simply says that things are awesome. That's not going to work my dude. Biden is the beneficiary of Trump's stupid strategy where all he has to do is exist and the American people will say yeah ill take Biden instead thank you.


LAW AND ORDER

Trump: "Proud Boys stand back and stand by, but someone's got to do something about Antifa"

Bro, leave the partisan Fox News, Breitbart shit for the primaries, you are in a national election son, I can promise you that people could care less about Antifa, you are pouring more fuel to the fire when you say those statements. People see right through it and see that you are clearly trying to pour more fuel on the fire, you are clearly taking a side and you'll defend that side no matter what and not focusing on uniting the country. People don't want this chaos that's going on and its no surprise that Biden is beating Trump on the issue of "Law and Order" that Trump keeps putting front and center. Also, a lot of normie Republicans don't want to be viewed and associated with extremists. Trump will always have his 35% of the country who will always be there for him no matter what but the rest of the country cringes at these things.


I see no chance of Trump winning this election. To me Biden will be our next president in 2021.
You seem woke. Are you?

I've heard Rush Limbaugh say that there exist no books on 'Great Independents', that is , because there are none. Which Independent will be remember in perpetuity, none likely.

Also, you seem dark. Are you?

I once read probably through CH that the biggest or end point of all pimps is the Gov't and the military. Would you agree to that? If so, would you "bug out to Alaska" alone while your family is pillaged, raped and killed? Would you want enemy soldiers to take booty or rob from your Mom, Wife, sister(s) or daughter(s)? (Lol, that old time language)

Anyhow, this is how I see it. It's all about freedom.

Notice I didn't say party, but nevertheless the Democrats should be labelled the "red party" because they are anti-freedom - as some countries that took on that color in the 20th century. If you look that up - you'll find that the colors used to switch from Blue to Red - but then some Woke democrat (notice I didn't say commie, hehe) said that in "all fairness" the Dems needed the color Blue, and they needed it forever - this started after Reagan. I've notice a bunch of Nancy-boys have redesigned Reagan's electoral map to be colored Red when it was originally Blue. And the only State that voted for Mondale was Minnesota, Lol. There are yet a few of the original maps out there online if you search.

Did I use any "trigger words" or "catch phrases" that you don't like?

This is how I see it, going back a few decades:

- The Shah was invited into the USA only for medical treatment then kicked out, wasn't the American people but merely a weak Dem President

- Upon the mention of Reagan's inauguration the Iranian's gladly gave us back our hostages, unprompted, they didn't do that for a Democrat

- Waco Tx, Janet Reno and Bill Clinton slaughtered children, dead babies, also men and women over a police action; the foot soldiers are on video crying - their men died too.

- Jason Mattera has a prominent Chicago National politician stating on video that the end point is Gun confiscation (on video)

- Jason Mattera also cornered Lois Lerner, Obama's Hit Man, on the lawn of a neighbor, on video, skulking off after she attacked Americans with the full power of law and the IRS. Would you like that treatment? (on video)

- A patriot Christian white lady was patted down 5 times and searched extensively on a return trip from the Caribbean. She finally asked why? They told her that she was on a list. An Obama Admin attack list. Would you like that treatment? It finally dawned on her, she was of a Patriot Non-Profit --- fair game for attack by the IRS.

- The coup. Yes, it was a coup. They thought that Black skin was the be-all-end-all. As Rush Limbaugh put it back in 2012 that many things are happening with a "wink and a nod". Do you remember all the hype, the kids singing to Obama at schools "Barack Hussein Obama, umm, ummm, ummmm". Well, if you don't, I do.

- Bundy Ranch - BLM Bureau of Land Management, in Nevada, tried to steal land so that "Black eyed and beaten" Senator Harry Reid could sell it to China or something similar; nevertheless they took out "Mini-guns" on Patriot. The Patriots had victories like when they escorted Snipers off of hill tops - Equestrians, from Nevada, escorted Snipers off of hill tops, worth repeating. Sadly most woke Americans couldn't define the word Equestrian. By way, Nancy-boys don't realize, even those of the Gov't sniper crews - you will likely not shoot someone off the back of a horse especially when they number in the 10s and 100s - the sheer power and speed alone. Americans were sadly put in a position to force and demand a cowering and floundering BLM to release confiscated cattle. (on video)

- The very questionable (to many people) Sandy Hook school shooting (Columbine was not questionable - except for the media hiding the 'evolution' slant) was used to shut down 2A in 3, 4 or 5 States - which the Appeals courts are still keeping 'shut down' even in the face of viable lawsuits --- but Abortion is legal Nationally and 2A is piece-meal. < = = = The main point

- Abortion - I once saw a video on-line of baby soup in China by China's "baby eating" shock "artist" - a man appeared to be eating baby soup - it looked very legit. (Many articles written on said Chinese "artist", they follow him around, the state officials follow him) I suppose the Democrats would like to try some of that on American soil? That's a question. After all, they are selling Baby body parts in California - all so that they can buy a Lamborghini, see link.

https://www.lifenews.com/2019/10/18...d-lamborghini-for-selling-aborted-baby-parts/

I'm not saying you are Democrat ... I'm simply saying that this is how I see it and freedom and maintaining freedom is the goal. You can take all of this as rhetorical. You don't have to reply. This can be seen as a memo or note for all the others on this forum, that enjoy these reminders and these facts.

Freedom

Btw, Rush Limbaugh wrote much political prose over the decades but then he wrote the Rush Revere series for Children ... if you have kids or young relatives consider it. The main characters are Rush Revere and Liberty, his Horse. I read them, kids around here too have read them and they loved every word.

https://rushrevere.com/

John 3:16

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iop890

Crow
Gold Member
Oh comeon man,
You didn't sign the constitution with a quill.
You didn't throw tea into the Boston river.
You didn't ride up on a hill on a horse and yell that the British are coming.
lol.
>Move to Japan
>Be graciously allowed to stay by the people that built that nation and left it to their descendants
>Act only in the interest of your fellow co-ethnics to the detriment of native Japanese
>Cheer on the replacement of the people that built the nation you inhabit out of resentment and perceived short term gain
>Pretend there's no such thing as native Japanese because they dun stole this land from the Ainu KANGZ or whatever
>Actual Japanese people object to this scummy, hook-nosed, ingrate behavior
>u WeReN't A sAmUrAi

Smooth-brain take. Very dumb and gay post. Sad.
 

FullThrottleTX

Woodpecker
I love how the whole world just pretends the American people don't exist as a nation and we can be exploited by whoever because “America is just an idea”
I think, I'm with you on the idea of Americans being exploited. I'm not with you on the idea of "heritage Americans".
Anytime there's an attempt to carve out a group on abstract lines, I think this is a problem. Anytime there's some kind of blood relation being brought up, I'm opposed to it. We're not going to have a whites-only society. Sorry! The ship has sailed.

Mostly because BLM is making blood/historical kind of arguments for reparations, and that's legally and philosophically a big problem. What a lot of the "heritage American" talk sounds like is very similar, except its white anglo Americans who have some kind of blood lineage to the founding of the US. I'm one of these people, by the way. You can consider me a "heritage American". I reject it strategically. It's such a small group, you're setting yourself up for failure. I like winning.

Why not make arguments based on citizenship? It's been diluted, obviously -- but its more compelling and it's an actual legal designation.
 
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DanielH

Woodpecker
Why not make arguments based on citizenship? It's been diluted, obviously -- but its more compelling and it's an actual legal designation.
I refer you to the Balkans circa the 1990s, South Africa circa now, The Austro-Hungarian Empire circa its entire history. The Balkans and Austria-Hungary broke down along mostly ethnic lines influenced by religion. South Africa is in some sort of weird subdued race war, kinda like us, but in a later stage. Diverse societies have never worked, ever. I don't hold resentment to other races/ethnicities, nor do I think I'm superior.

God Himself called Abraham the father of nations, because his descendants became different nations by ethnicity, race and culture. We're fallen beings so that is the natural state of how humanity will divide itself while we're on this fallen Earth. I expect this to not be the case in Heaven and in Hell. I hold basically nothing in common with an Indian Hindu, a Pakistani Muslim, a Japanese Shinto, or an Africa Pentecostal. None of these groups benefit from being forced together by globalist bankers and politicians.

Edit: As far as the US, there's peaceful ways to resolve this but I don't really see that happening. If you made certain cities or regions highly autonomous (as Russia does) so they don't drag everyone else down and influence all of us, that would work, at least on paper. Problem is, that's how the Constitution originally worked and look where we ended up.
 

FullThrottleTX

Woodpecker
I refer you to the Balkans circa the 1990s, South Africa circa now, The Austro-Hungarian Empire circa its entire history. The Balkans and Austria-Hungary broke down along mostly ethnic lines influenced by religion. South Africa is in some sort of weird subdued race war, kinda like us, but in a later stage. Diverse societies have never worked, ever. I don't hold resentment to other races/ethnicities, nor do I think I'm superior.

God Himself called Abraham the father of nations, because his descendants became different nations by ethnicity, race and culture. We're fallen beings so that is the natural state of how humanity will divide itself while we're on this fallen Earth. I expect this to not be the case in Heaven and in Hell. I hold basically nothing in common with an Indian Hindu, a Pakistani Muslim, a Japanese Shinto, or an Africa Pentecostal. None of these groups benefit from being forced together by globalist bankers and politicians.
You're not going to get that though.
I agree with you on the premise (multiculturalism isn't ideal), but... the situation on the ground is, 48% white AT BEST in the US at large - much of those folks hopeless shitlibs. What happens with the rest of the people?

I think there are lots of compelling arguments that can get reasonable people, regardless of race/ethnicity, on board with a conservative civil society.
 

DanielH

Woodpecker
You're not going to get that though.
I agree with you on the premise (multiculturalism isn't ideal), but... the situation on the ground is, 48% white AT BEST in the US at large - much of those folks hopeless shitlibs. What happens with the rest of the people?

I think there are lots of compelling arguments that can get reasonable people, regardless of race/ethnicity, on board with a conservative civil society.
Nobody even agrees on what conservative means. To some it means no further degeneration. To some it means the 1950s. To some, it means following the bible/the Church. There will not be a peaceful solution to America's problems without us repenting of our sins, but how do we do that when so many have made their sin their identity, and are proud of it? I'm getting off track, and I don't mean to sound blackpilled. Basically whatever will happen will happen, no amount of ideological argumentation will fix our problems in my opinion, because our problems are at a deeper level than ideology.
 

FullThrottleTX

Woodpecker
Nobody even agrees on what conservative means. To some it means no further degeneration. To some it means the 1950s. To some, it means following the bible/the Church. There will not be a peaceful solution to America's problems without us repenting of our sins, but how do we do that when so many have made their sin their identity, and are proud of it? I'm getting off track, and I don't mean to sound blackpilled. Basically whatever will happen will happen, no amount of ideological argumentation will fix our problems in my opinion, because our problems are at a deeper level than ideology.
We're not that far off.
Lol, in a month or so we'll know what's possible in terms of uniting people behind conservatism.
 

MRAll134

Kingfisher
Happened to see Hillary Clinton comment on the debate on the James Corden show.

No surprise her comments were full of dismissal & derision of & for Trump.
Yet what was also telling.
She did not really sing Biden's praises. She did not provide any reason to vote for Biden. Rather to simply vote against Trump.
She did not sell a message of hope or confidence.
Nor did she even imply that Biden won the debate.

Also, Bill Clinton popped into view towards the end, & does he look as ravaged as ever.
You wonder if certain photographs are altered in some ways, yet Bill of today on a Zoom camera looks very much like this (minus the flash) :

Syphilis is really hard on the body/mind.

This cartoon is via Caldron Pool:

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The Onion weighs in on the debate... Lol

‘That’s It, I’m Voting For Him,’ Says Undecided Voter Impressed By Poised Chris Wallace

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