Two illegal Latinos rape 14-year-old girl in Maryland high school

[MMX2010]

Carlson, in all likelihood was fully aware of what he was asking the lawyer. It doesn't make him a hack to do so. His goal was to squeeze the lawyer's balls in a vice, which I am content with him doing. Lawyers need that from time to time.

As for Chris Gaines asking if we feel the same contempt for Peter Thiel, this is a false equivalence. One case is civil law, the other is criminal. But really, I'm just throwing that on the pile. The big difference between Gawker and the MS-13 criminals is that there was never an attempt to conceal or otherwise obfuscate Thiel's involvement/funding in the case. Overall, it's a non issue for me. I'm just looking for reasons to take a shit on Soros and SJWs whenever possible.

In regard to MS-13 vs our own "domestic gangs." Again, you're making a false equivalence. It's like the liberal SJWs who respond to radical Islamic terrorism by pointing out the Christians who've blown up abortion clinics or taken shots at abortion providers. Both things are bad, but at the present time, one is worse than the other, be it due to the size of the problem, the level of aggression, the ability to contain, etc. MS-13 is worse because outside the inner city slums, Bloods and Crips aren't really an issue. Bloods and Crips know their place. They know if they go fucking around in nice places, they'll pay dearly for it. MS-13 operates without regard for territory. It's comprised of illegals who are illegal due to their own disregard for territory. They fuck with people who aren't involved in the gang culture. Many of them are off the grid. Fun fact, illegals change names about as often as a SJW changes their underwear and bathes. Even your average Blood has a birth certificate on file somewhere, and at least one or two people who can make a positive ID.

MS-13 was started in Southern California by the children of Salvadoran immigrants back in the 80's. Some of those people were born in the United States and were United States Citizens. Many weren't born in the United States, but were here legally. Some were obviously here illegally. The gang has evolved since then and now includes many, many people who are United States Citizens, many legal immigrants to the United States, many illegal immigrants in the United States, and many people outside of the United States, not just El Salvador, but throughout Latin America. The statement "it's comprised of illegals (Is 'comprised of' even proper English?)" is inaccurate. There are definitely tons of illegal members, but many members who are in the United States are here legally, and many are also citizens. In the D.C. area, the gang mostly operates outside of major cities, Langley Park, Wheaton, Arlington, Gaithersburg, and Rockville, probably in that order. In Southern California, they tend to operate in both urban and suburban areas.

What are you, the public defender for MS-13 now?

It doesn't matter whether some members of MS-13 are legal citizens of the USA. It matters that some of them are illegals, that the gang itself is, therefore, strengthened by illegal immigration, and that many voters DO NOT WANT America to crack down on them.

 

[ChrisGaines]

What are you, the public defender for MS-13 now?

It doesn't matter whether some members of MS-13 are legal citizens of the USA. It matters that some of them are illegals, that the gang itself is, therefore, strengthened by illegal immigration, and that many voters DO NOT WANT America to crack down on them.

Someone doesn't agree with you or points out erroneous statements and they "spitefully hate America" or are somehow defending gangs. Convenient argument tactic.

No, I'm disgusted by questions about domestic policy whenever immigration policy is discussed. Domestic policy is completely different from immigration policy, and there's no reason (except spiteful hatred of America) to mention domestic policy when discussing illegal immigration.

Citing gang issues as purely "immigration policy" matters in which domestic policy concerns have no place is simply ignorant of the fact that gang activity and membership is not relegated to immigrant populations. Hence, I asked if you were also similarly concerned with "domestic" gangs (and gang activity in general) or if you were solely concerned with MS-13 based upon an over-arching immigration policy concerns. But you aren't interested in a discussion--you simply want to advance your viewpoints and, if questioned, resort to non-answers and knee-jerk name calling. Sad!

 

[MMX2010]

Citing gang issues as purely "immigration policy" matters in which domestic policy concerns have no place is simply ignorant of the fact that gang activity and membership is not relegated to immigrant populations.

I never cited gang membership as a purely domestic policy concern. I stated that MS-13 has members who are illegal immigrants who should be removed from this country.

Stating that some members of MS-13 aren't illegal immigrants is irrelevant to the fact that the gang's illegal immigrants should be removed.

Becoming the public defender for MS-13 only serves to quell the desire to remove its illegal immigrant members, which is, at best, a character flaw.

If Merenguero wants to explain his desire to become the public defender for MS-13, he can do that himself. You can also explain your desire to become the public defender of MS-13 yourself.

 

[ChrisGaines]

Chris Gaines, how many rights do Native-born Americans have? How many rights in America do illegal immigrants have?

If you're suggesting deporting undocumented immigrants, most have the right to a hearing before an immigration judge (and review by a federal court), representation by a lawyer (not at government expense), notice of charges and of the hearing time and place, a reasonable opportunity to examine evidence and witnesses, and the government has to prove that the grounds for deportation are valid.

Did I pass the test? Will you answer any of my questions?

 

[MMX2010]

If you're suggesting deporting undocumented immigrants,

I wasn't.

 

[worldwidetraveler]

MS-13 was started in Southern California by the children of Salvadoran immigrants back in the 80's. Some of those people were born in the United States and were United States Citizens. Many weren't born in the United States, but were here legally. Some were obviously here illegally. The gang has evolved since then and now includes many, many people who are United States Citizens, many legal immigrants to the United States, many illegal immigrants in the United States, and many people outside of the United States, not just El Salvador, but throughout Latin America. The statement "it's comprised of illegals (Is 'comprised of' even proper English?)" is inaccurate. There are definitely tons of illegal members, but many members who are in the United States are here legally, and many are also citizens. In the D.C. area, the gang mostly operates outside of major cities, Langley Park, Wheaton, Arlington, Gaithersburg, and Rockville, probably in that order. In Southern California, they tend to operate in both urban and suburban areas.

I keep seeing a certain stat of over 90% of M-13 members arrested are illegals.

 

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Geez...who am I going to trust? An accomplished attorney with a solid track record and great fucking advice.....or some guys on a forum who only post in race/crime/immigrant threads?

One seems more credible than the other.

 

[worldwidetraveler]

Geez...who am I going to trust? An accomplished attorney with a solid track record and great fucking advice.....or some guys on a forum who only post in race/crime/immigrant threads?

One seems more credible than the other.

You should be researching the subject yourself instead of blindly following anyone.

 

[Merenguero]

MS-13 was started in Southern California by the children of Salvadoran immigrants back in the 80's. Some of those people were born in the United States and were United States Citizens. Many weren't born in the United States, but were here legally. Some were obviously here illegally. The gang has evolved since then and now includes many, many people who are United States Citizens, many legal immigrants to the United States, many illegal immigrants in the United States, and many people outside of the United States, not just El Salvador, but throughout Latin America. The statement "it's comprised of illegals (Is 'comprised of' even proper English?)" is inaccurate. There are definitely tons of illegal members, but many members who are in the United States are here legally, and many are also citizens. In the D.C. area, the gang mostly operates outside of major cities, Langley Park, Wheaton, Arlington, Gaithersburg, and Rockville, probably in that order. In Southern California, they tend to operate in both urban and suburban areas.

I keep seeing a certain stat of over 90% of M-13 members arrested are illegals.

What I read was that over 90% of MS-13 members arrested by ICE were here illegally, which makes perfect sense. People who are here illegally are obviously the most likely people to be detained by ICE. I read that Cucker incorrectly stated that over 90% of MS-13 members are here illegally. I didn't personally here him say that. It's just what I read. I'm really tired of this subject. If you guys are that obsessed with getting gang members, illegal aliens, and other Hispanics deported, then elect a president who will deport as many as possible or run for president yourself. I see fewer people than ever being deported (but more people than ever being detained) and do not see any chance of a drastic increase in actual deportation any time soon.

 

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Geez...who am I going to trust? An accomplished attorney with a solid track record and great fucking advice.....or some guys on a forum who only post in race/crime/immigrant threads?

One seems more credible than the other.

You should be researching the subject yourself instead of blindly following anyone.

I'll follow the advice of the person who has gotten me out of trouble three times.

 

[worldwidetraveler]

MS-13 was started in Southern California by the children of Salvadoran immigrants back in the 80's. Some of those people were born in the United States and were United States Citizens. Many weren't born in the United States, but were here legally. Some were obviously here illegally. The gang has evolved since then and now includes many, many people who are United States Citizens, many legal immigrants to the United States, many illegal immigrants in the United States, and many people outside of the United States, not just El Salvador, but throughout Latin America. The statement "it's comprised of illegals (Is 'comprised of' even proper English?)" is inaccurate. There are definitely tons of illegal members, but many members who are in the United States are here legally, and many are also citizens. In the D.C. area, the gang mostly operates outside of major cities, Langley Park, Wheaton, Arlington, Gaithersburg, and Rockville, probably in that order. In Southern California, they tend to operate in both urban and suburban areas.

I keep seeing a certain stat of over 90% of M-13 members arrested are illegals.

What I read was that over 90% of MS-13 members arrested by ICE were here illegally, which makes perfect sense. People who are here illegally are obviously the most likely people to be detained by ICE. I read that Cucker incorrectly stated that over 90% of MS-13 members are here illegally. I didn't personally here him say that. It's just what I read. I'm really tired of this subject. If you guts are that obsessed with getting gang members, illegal aliens, and other Hispanics deported, then elect a president who will deport as many as possible or run for president yourself. I see fewer people then ever being deported (but more people than ever being detained) snd do not see any chance of a drastic increase in actual deportation any time soon.

I don't know the context of how these people, who are stating these stats, are using the term illegals. It does look like M-13 members increased significantly through immigration.

I think people don't want more trouble being brought in. We have enough already here. I think it is a valid concern with what we are seeing in Europe. No problem if you don't respond to topics you find tiresome.

 

[worldwidetraveler]

I'll follow the advice of the person who has gotten me out of trouble three times.

Sounds like you need to work on your decision making skills. Part of that would be researching information to make better decisions.

 

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

Glad the girl wasn't raped.

Send the two of them back anyway.

otd:

 

[rorochido1]

What is the rape statistics overall per year and where do latinos, then immigrants fall in? Just for perspective purposes.

 

[SamuelBRoberts]

Who even knows? In Cali they downgrade crimes committed by immigrants to avoid having to deport them.

 

[DarkTriad]

^^^
Just so you guys know, this poster isn't my alter ego. I have no idea who it is or what his history on the forum is.

You're respected poster and nobody would have thought that of you, we're just having a polite difference of opinion. I still don't think you can complain about getting asked awkward questions in an on air interview YOU volunteer for. Even if it just makes the audience think about the the answer to the question it's a valid question in a democracy.

 

[Thomas Jackson]

What is the rape statistics overall per year and where do latinos, then immigrants fall in? Just for perspective purposes.

Stats on immigrants are hard to find and you would really need it broken down by country of origin. Crime rates for asian immigrants are extremely low which means their overall crime rates are lower than native rates (which in term are inflated by black crime rates).

Even getting stats for Latino crime is tough, often times it's lumped in with white. FBI has some on murder, but not sure about on anything else.