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Lika

Kingfisher
Barron said:
Lika said:
What about French women liking black men from France
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Oberrheiner

Pelican
Lika said:
Oberrheiner said:
Lika said:
Do you mean that a Russian woman who likes non Russians is damaged?

A russian woman liking turks or middle-eastern guys is damaged, for sure.
Just like a french woman liking men from africa is damaged.

What about French women liking black men from France

Or Russian women liking white men from England?

I wasn't making a moral judgement.
Miscegenation is damaging to your bloodline.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outbreeding_depression

Now what exactly is a russian woman can be discussed of course.
My mother is russian, she has ancestors from prussia to the ural, and from the caucasus to beyond the polar circle, so pretty varied already.
In any case genetic distance matters.

Also as a mixed-breed I feel at home in no place and no culture, so an argument could be made that it's damaging psychologically too.
But I guess rootless individuals is exactly what the system is shooting for, so sure go for it.
Africa, England, whatever .. those two look more similar by the day anyway.
 

Lika

Kingfisher
Oberrheiner said:
Lika said:
Oberrheiner said:
Lika said:
Do you mean that a Russian woman who likes non Russians is damaged?

A russian woman liking turks or middle-eastern guys is damaged, for sure.
Just like a french woman liking men from africa is damaged.

What about French women liking black men from France

Or Russian women liking white men from England?

I wasn't making a moral judgement.
Miscegenation is damaging to your bloodline.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outbreeding_depression

Not very conclusive, you are referring to an article about outbreeding depression which itself refers to inbreeding depression:

"Inbreeding depression is the reduced biological fitness in a given population as a result of inbreeding, or breeding of related individuals. Population biological fitness refers to an organism's ability to survive and perpetuate its genetic material."

I doubt that a white Russian woman breeding with a white English male would endanger the biological fitness of their descendants compared to two white Russians breeding together.
 

ScannerLIV

Woodpecker
Let's see.....because eastern female Slavs were sold and traded in the middle east for hundreds of years until 20th century. Girls as young as 11

Not to cook for them....

But few remember this so perhaps it's moot.

Now only if American blacks would forget too
 
The parliamentary election took place early in Ukraine, originally planned for October but moved ahead by Zelensky.

Looks like Zelensky's party won a plurality with 253 seats, the openly pro-Russian Opposition coalition came in second with 44 seats (led by a Putin associate), Tymoshenko's and Poroshenko's parties came in third with 25 seats each, followed by the rock musician Vakarchuk's new party with 20 seats, and another Opposition-related party got 6 seats (the original Opposition Bloc had a split between two factions).

The remainder of seats went to a few other minor parties and different independents.

Amusing to see the Svoboda party, which is a coalition including various Ukrainian nationalist groups, including the Azov political wing "National Corps" and the infamous Right Sector, only got 1 seat, having lost 6 seats from the previous Rada composition. The pro-Russian parties did better than the combined forces of Ukrainian nationalists, and that's good to see.

It will be interesting to see what Zelensky does now that the parliament is looking better for him, but it seems so far like he has already sold it to the Anglo Zionist establishment and his administration will just be more of the same. But maybe he will still make some effort to improve relations with Russia and speak to Putin. However, the vote results themselves are whitepilling, it seems the majority of people are skeptical of the openly pro-NATO/EU establishment represented by Poroshenko, and of course the Opposition party's performance in being the second largest share of the seats is also encouraging.
 

Lika

Kingfisher
Knight of Malta said:
The parliamentary election took place early in Ukraine, originally planned for October but moved ahead by Zelensky.

Looks like Zelensky's party won a plurality with 253 seats, the openly pro-Russian Opposition coalition came in second with 44 seats (led by a Putin associate), Tymoshenko's and Poroshenko's parties came in third with 25 seats each, followed by the rock musician Vakarchuk's new party with 20 seats, and another Opposition-related party got 6 seats (the original Opposition Bloc had a split between two factions).

The remainder of seats went to a few other minor parties and different independents.

Amusing to see the Svoboda party, which is a coalition including various Ukrainian nationalist groups, including the Azov political wing "National Corps" and the infamous Right Sector, only got 1 seat, having lost 6 seats from the previous Rada composition. The pro-Russian parties did better than the combined forces of Ukrainian nationalists, and that's good to see.

It will be interesting to see what Zelensky does now that the parliament is looking better for him, but it seems so far like he has already sold it to the Anglo Zionist establishment and his administration will just be more of the same. But maybe he will still make some effort to improve relations with Russia and speak to Putin. However, the vote results themselves are whitepilling, it seems the majority of people are skeptical of the openly pro-NATO/EU establishment represented by Poroshenko, and of course the Opposition party's performance in being the second largest share of the seats is also encouraging.

During his presidential campaign, Zelensky promised to make peace in Donbass. As soon as he got elected, he said it's impossible to speak with the "separatists".

Now that he got the majority in parliament, Zelensky will have no excuses for falling to deliver on his promises. He will fail (like Poroshenko who promised to make peace in one week) and he will not be reelected.
He will get richer in the process though...

Interesting interview from Oliver Stone on the Ukrainian situation:

http://thesaker.is/president-putins-interview-with-oliver-stone/
 
Lika said:
Knight of Malta said:
The parliamentary election took place early in Ukraine, originally planned for October but moved ahead by Zelensky.

Looks like Zelensky's party won a plurality with 253 seats, the openly pro-Russian Opposition coalition came in second with 44 seats (led by a Putin associate), Tymoshenko's and Poroshenko's parties came in third with 25 seats each, followed by the rock musician Vakarchuk's new party with 20 seats, and another Opposition-related party got 6 seats (the original Opposition Bloc had a split between two factions).

The remainder of seats went to a few other minor parties and different independents.

Amusing to see the Svoboda party, which is a coalition including various Ukrainian nationalist groups, including the Azov political wing "National Corps" and the infamous Right Sector, only got 1 seat, having lost 6 seats from the previous Rada composition. The pro-Russian parties did better than the combined forces of Ukrainian nationalists, and that's good to see.

It will be interesting to see what Zelensky does now that the parliament is looking better for him, but it seems so far like he has already sold it to the Anglo Zionist establishment and his administration will just be more of the same. But maybe he will still make some effort to improve relations with Russia and speak to Putin. However, the vote results themselves are whitepilling, it seems the majority of people are skeptical of the openly pro-NATO/EU establishment represented by Poroshenko, and of course the Opposition party's performance in being the second largest share of the seats is also encouraging.

During his presidential campaign, Zelensky promised to make peace in Donbass. As soon as he got elected, he said it's impossible to speak with the "separatists".

Now that he got the majority in parliament, Zelensky will have no excuses for falling to deliver on his promises. He will fail (like Poroshenko who promised to make peace in one week) and he will not be reelected.
He will get richer in the process though...

Interesting interview from Oliver Stone on the Ukrainian situation:

http://thesaker.is/president-putins-interview-with-oliver-stone/

It's amazing how naive Ukranians can be after living in a country that was cleaned out to bones by the ((usual)) free market types in the 1990s. You would think people living and working in 30 year old ruins of a former state (USSR) would have caught on that they were bamboozled by Yeltsin and the Libertarian promise makers.
I speak to Ukranians, if you push them hard enough, they will say that there was more security and abundance in Soviet times, but they still like Ukraine today, again if you push them, they say something absurd, like the internet, a technological advance independent of what country you live in???
 
Finally, a peace summit between Putin and Zelensky is scheduled for December 9. A ceasefire is currently being implemented in the southeast of Ukraine. We'll see if real progress is made towards ending the war.
 
The meeting in Paris between Putin and Zelensky did not lead to any major breakthrough but made some incremental steps in the right direction. They agreed on some things like continuing the ceasefire, increasing contact between governments, prisoner exchanges, and Putin wants the Ukrainian government to talk to the separatist leaders, which they refused to do up until now. In four months there will be another meeting to oversee the progress towards this.

Putin wanted a total withdrawal of troops from the front line but apparently Zelensky refused. Besides that, they also agreed to a gas transit agreement.
 

911

Peacock
Gold Member
Russia has got 3 new gas pipelines to Europe on the way, one through Turkey and two through the Baltics, so Ukraine lost most of its leverage and now have to go back to Putin hat in hand lest they freeze this winter.


On a lighter note, the name of this thread always cracks me up, it's as if we have guys here lounging on leather couches puffing cigars, scotch in hand, and watching this EE crisis unfold...

Incidentally, I am having an after dinner Talisker, typing away from my leather couch, no cigar though...:)
 

Jeptomf

Sparrow
"On a lighter note, the name of this thread always cracks me up, it's as if we have guys here lounging on leather couches puffing cigars, scotch in hand, and watching this EE crisis unfold..."

What makes you think we don't?))
 
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Barron

Ostrich
Gold Member
I live right by the presidential palace here in Kiev and it's been difficult to sleep the past couple nights due to the dumbass paid protestors outside. They're demanding to know everything that was said between Zelensky and Putin. What stupid demand, as if the state has no right to private affairs on behalf of its foreign policy and national security.
 

Barron

Ostrich
Gold Member
Wonder what all this is about

Ukraine Probes Likely Murder Of US Embassy Staffer In Kiev Park

Ukrainian authorities are investigating the shocking and mysterious death of a US Embassy employee on Wednesday.

Wonder if she had connections to Hillary/The Bidens.

My first teaching job was right across the street from that park. Used to go there after hours drinking and having a good time with students until after midnight. Never had an issue with safety

So far all that is known is that a woman was found lying unconscious near railroad tracks in a park near the city center, apparently the victim of a brutal attack, given she had a head injury, according to Reuters.
 

Troller

Pelican
“It is expected that Ukraine to start an offensive next Monday on March 15 against Russia
Journalist Dmitri Gordon says next Monday will be a “difficult”, “fateful” and “historic day” for Ukraine.

Footage from days ago showed another large amount of military equipment by Ukrainian Army, sent to the front line of Donbas, occupied by Russia.

The Ukrainian Army conducted counter-sabotage exercises on the border with Russian occupied Crimea ... with a hint of sending their own saboteurs to the adjacent side.”

Greece is being heavily armed by US.
 
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