USA Post-Election Violence Thread
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Here's the DC Police twitter feed:
They publish major incidents as they happen. Looks like a few shootings, but based on the addresses that's just typical Saturday night in DC in the ghetto, not related to protests. The one on the 1000 block of 4th Street SW may be an area where protestors could be. I'm not familiar with that part of DC.
They publish major incidents as they happen. Looks like a few shootings, but based on the addresses that's just typical Saturday night in DC in the ghetto, not related to protests. The one on the 1000 block of 4th Street SW may be an area where protestors could be. I'm not familiar with that part of DC.
The Marxists are already pushing the narrative that the Proud Boys are out commiting random acts of violence, and correlating it to the violence and destruction seen across our nation for months at the hands of BLM and Antifa.
They are accusing the Right of hypocrisy because apparently we do the exact same things as them when we gather to protest, or show support for Trump.
Their delusion is strong.
They are accusing the Right of hypocrisy because apparently we do the exact same things as them when we gather to protest, or show support for Trump.
Their delusion is strong.
The common theme in these antifa-beating-people-up videos is that you have lone Trump supporters, maybe two, vastly outnumbered on all sides and vulnerable.
It just amazes me that guys who probably have a whole armory of tacticool gear at home seem completely clueless about basic defensive strategies. Move in a group of a bunch of people; that alone will deter most antifa cowards. Keep women and vulnerable people in the middle. Have groups of big guys at these events offer to escort others back to their hotels. Coordinate on the ground when it seems like things are getting hot. Remove identifying markers like MAGA hats, American flags, etc. and put them in your backpack when the rally is over, blend into the crowd, and adopt a mystified persona. Really, almost anything would be an improvement over what they're doing.
Antifa are a bunch of noodle-limbed pussies. They don't know anything but how to swarm people in a mob. The problem is, so many people on the Right are just as clueless and think their myopic individualism will translate to these situations. It doesn't. They need order and discipline to beat, or at least not get beat up by, antifa, not an every-man-for-himself philosophy.
It just amazes me that guys who probably have a whole armory of tacticool gear at home seem completely clueless about basic defensive strategies. Move in a group of a bunch of people; that alone will deter most antifa cowards. Keep women and vulnerable people in the middle. Have groups of big guys at these events offer to escort others back to their hotels. Coordinate on the ground when it seems like things are getting hot. Remove identifying markers like MAGA hats, American flags, etc. and put them in your backpack when the rally is over, blend into the crowd, and adopt a mystified persona. Really, almost anything would be an improvement over what they're doing.
Antifa are a bunch of noodle-limbed pussies. They don't know anything but how to swarm people in a mob. The problem is, so many people on the Right are just as clueless and think their myopic individualism will translate to these situations. It doesn't. They need order and discipline to beat, or at least not get beat up by, antifa, not an every-man-for-himself philosophy.
Easy_C
Peacock
Keep in mind most of the people you see with all the gear don’t actually practice any of it. A HUGE portion of that community is just sponsored consumerism from preppier Companies and consists of social media types reviewing fancy gear. The mentality seeps in and people think gear is the end all be all.
They largely don’t train, don’t practice, and don’t understand but I am beginning to see more people who do. Defensive weapon training (the kind with live ammo drills taught by a variety of Ex-operator/ranger types) is sold out for months almost everywhere you look for it.
The useful idiots are. The ones you are getting arrested are mostly the drug addicted useful idiots. Don’t understimate them. The ones doing the organizing, planning, and instigating are extremely dangerous individuals and I have reason to believe that it includes state actors, PMC operatives, and other types who know exactly what they’re doing and are likely to be very capable in a violent confrontation.
Easy_C
Peacock
Cross posting here but keep in mind if ammo costs are prohibitive and/or you live in a city you can practice basic defensive drills by either using a toy-grade airsoft pistol or laser training pistol (pulling the trigger activated a laser). Have someone put up targets in a room or house then go in and clear the room/building.
Also take a defensive pistol course. I am NOT talking about a CCW course which should be considered a pre-requisite but about a drill-based course where you’ll do reactive, defensive, live fire drills.
Also take a defensive pistol course. I am NOT talking about a CCW course which should be considered a pre-requisite but about a drill-based course where you’ll do reactive, defensive, live fire drills.
VinnieVincenzo
Sparrow
I spin fire contact staff, if I was surrounded like that I would light one end up and spin it around like the hobbits did atop Weathertop in the Lord of the Rings but someone would probably pull out a gun. Keep in mind this would only be in self defense to get the mob off of me
I don't know what this means. You spin fire contact staff? I realize there may be a typo here, but I can't tell what was intended.
You also mention lighting the end on fire, like in the movies. I find the ends of sticks never seem to burn like a torch the way they do in the movies. Do you have the end of your staff dipped in some kind of tar that will burn for a while, even if you swing it around rapidly?
VinnieVincenzo
Sparrow
It has wicks at the end that you put fuel on amd it has a around a 5 minute burn time. Contact means you spin it around without actually grasping the staff, you instead move it around your body but in this case I would wield it like a bow staff.
Like this
Easy_C
Peacock
That’s the kind of self defense “advice” that’s awful from a strictly self defense perspective.
Admittedly it’s flashy and showy. Those can be useful in the right time and place but when you are dealing with a feral mob the last thing you want to do is give them strong sensory stimulation.
Admittedly it’s flashy and showy. Those can be useful in the right time and place but when you are dealing with a feral mob the last thing you want to do is give them strong sensory stimulation.
VinnieVincenzo
Sparrow
Which is why I’m staying in the house unless I’m booked for a performance or something
Easy_C
Peacock
Well..
unsolicited but to expound on that the time and place is generally BEFORE violence actually kicks off. Something flashy like that can either focus attention where you want it or distract people enough that they’re now watching the scary looking thing instead of participating in the escalation cycle.
Another exception is when you have something so strong it’s enough to disorient people or knock them out of their momentum like a flash bang, sonic strobe, spotlights, or the like. Those do have a distinct use but it’s best left to people who have appropriate training.
unsolicited but to expound on that the time and place is generally BEFORE violence actually kicks off. Something flashy like that can either focus attention where you want it or distract people enough that they’re now watching the scary looking thing instead of participating in the escalation cycle.
Another exception is when you have something so strong it’s enough to disorient people or knock them out of their momentum like a flash bang, sonic strobe, spotlights, or the like. Those do have a distinct use but it’s best left to people who have appropriate training.
VinnieVincenzo
Sparrow
I’m a veteran so I’m no pushover but at the same time because of that I hold myself to a higher standard; it would have to be really bad and basically encroach on my doorstep before I would get involved, I do agree that the proper authorities shouldn’t have their hands tied and can do what is needed to restore order.
Like I said it would only be in self defense. Time to invest in a glaive
Can someone give perspective on the legal aspects of mob violence? My understanding was case law is settled: if anyone in the mob attacks you, you are justified in lethal action against all of them. Isn't this correct?