Vancouver school board gender policy allows “xe” or “xem” in place of “he” or “her”
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I think it would be prudent for the parents to ask the school board what bar they hang-out at on weekends. Something tells me more than a few of the board members are down on all-fours Saturday night at the local leather bar.
When critics of gay marriage said it would have a domino effect, they were thinking in terms of polygamy.
What happened instead was that issue created a heightened sensitivity about perceived "bigotry" and "hate" related to alternative sexual expression. So you're getting wacky concepts like this now because the cultural conversations have shifted (see Overton Window) . And there will probably be more.
What happened instead was that issue created a heightened sensitivity about perceived "bigotry" and "hate" related to alternative sexual expression. So you're getting wacky concepts like this now because the cultural conversations have shifted (see Overton Window) . And there will probably be more.
RE: Vancouver school board gender policy
I heard "Won't someone please think of the children" and thought, "I bet she's an ugly Church Lady."
I heard "Won't someone please think of the children" and thought, "I bet she's an ugly Church Lady."
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Just stick all the freaks in their own LGBT school somewhere run by LGBT teachers and stop poisoning the minds of the mainstream population.
Sorry but no matter how noble the cause may sound .... Nobody is going to take trannies seriously in the real world. Not in business or in their social lives. They're doomed to walk the earth alone. All they have is each other.
Just stick all the freaks in their own LGBT school somewhere run by LGBT teachers and stop poisoning the minds of the mainstream population.
Sorry but no matter how noble the cause may sound .... Nobody is going to take trannies seriously in the real world. Not in business or in their social lives. They're doomed to walk the earth alone. All they have is each other.
AnonymousBosch said:
I heard "Won't someone please think of the children" and thought, "I bet she's an ugly Church Lady."
You're not entitled to feel safe.
I'm not kidding about that, either. Take this to its logical conclusion and almost all speech would be banned because someone is always offended by something.
Feisbook Control
Kingfisher
The other thing that pisses me off about this is that they take all of these weird combinations of letters that rarely, if ever, exist in the English language and claim they're new words. That's bullshit and just fucks up the language. It's like they're playing Scrabble and they're trying to pull a sneaky word when they don't actually have a word.
"Jfq. That's a word".
"No it's not."
"Yes it is. It means a guy with three dicks -- one is a human dick, another is a horse's dick, and the last one is the dick of the Bolivian grasshopper. Don't be transphobic. (A word that isn't a word either, by the way.) 37 points...on a triple word square, so 111 points. I win!"
Fuck that bullshit. You can't make this crap up as you go along.
I think the litmus test for this should be an eight year old kid learning English as a foreign language. If I tried to pull all this xe, xem, etc. nonsense on my students, they'd tell me to get the fuck out of here.
"Jfq. That's a word".
"No it's not."
"Yes it is. It means a guy with three dicks -- one is a human dick, another is a horse's dick, and the last one is the dick of the Bolivian grasshopper. Don't be transphobic. (A word that isn't a word either, by the way.) 37 points...on a triple word square, so 111 points. I win!"
Fuck that bullshit. You can't make this crap up as you go along.
I think the litmus test for this should be an eight year old kid learning English as a foreign language. If I tried to pull all this xe, xem, etc. nonsense on my students, they'd tell me to get the fuck out of here.
Feisbook Control said:
Most of the opposition to this was working class Asian immigrants, who unfortunately were tossed aside due to their "fob" accents that makes people assume they aren't educated and call them as such. A lot of reporters taking the opportunity to trap these parents into tv interviews that show them in a negative light.
Couple years back one of Vancouver's suburbs (higher % of kids in public school and larger working class religious immigrants) introduced a very strong pro-LGBT policy that resulted in a huge parent backlash even forming a anti-lgbt party for the school board during local elections. They lost since anyone can vote for school trustees not just parents
Of course all the rich Asians end up sending their kids to private school. Check out some of the local private high schools and you see 16yos driving lambos and Maserati.
Feisbook Control
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Emancipator: It seems like there's an interesting dynamic going on there then between minority groups. Reading between the lines, I get the following.
1. Weird sexuality is probably more prevalent amongst upper middle to upper class whites (probably for social reasons, I suspect).
2. In weird upper class white vs middle/lower class white (with traditional social values), weird upper class white = win.
3. In weird upper class white vs middle/upper class Asian, middle/upper class Asian goes to private school, weird upper class white = win.
4. In weird upper class white vs lower class Asian, upper class white = win.
Therefore, weird sexuality = upper class white privilege? Same as it ever was, same as it ever was? So, the culture wars actually = upper class white privilege? There's an interesting fault line there in the liberal pecking order that we could potentially exploit:
Weird upper class white values > minority values
Currently, there's a common bogey man in middle/lower class (traditional) white values, but I posit that when progressivism finally crushes (or thinks it has crushed) that group, the motley crew who make up the progressive alliance will turn on one another.
1. Weird sexuality is probably more prevalent amongst upper middle to upper class whites (probably for social reasons, I suspect).
2. In weird upper class white vs middle/lower class white (with traditional social values), weird upper class white = win.
3. In weird upper class white vs middle/upper class Asian, middle/upper class Asian goes to private school, weird upper class white = win.
4. In weird upper class white vs lower class Asian, upper class white = win.
Therefore, weird sexuality = upper class white privilege? Same as it ever was, same as it ever was? So, the culture wars actually = upper class white privilege? There's an interesting fault line there in the liberal pecking order that we could potentially exploit:
Weird upper class white values > minority values
Currently, there's a common bogey man in middle/lower class (traditional) white values, but I posit that when progressivism finally crushes (or thinks it has crushed) that group, the motley crew who make up the progressive alliance will turn on one another.
Emancipator said:Another good article from the National Post, Canada's only MSM that uses common sense and calls out bullshit.
Of course when this "trans-inclusive" policy was being debated among school board trustees they locked out the parents against such an initiative from taking part in meetings and discussions but allowed trans activists without children into the meetings to cheer this policy on.
http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com...olicy-allows-xe-or-xem-in-place-of-he-or-her/
"British Columbia teachers have been at war with the province for more than a decade, and are set to walk out on strike just days before the end of the school year.
Normally I would question the wisdom of a strike that takes place over the summer holidays (who’s going to notice?) and is related to unreasonable pay demands. But not in this case. B.C., it is clear, does not view schools as a place in which children are taught the basic tools necessary to navigate life – math, science, geography – but as petri dishes for social experimentation in which teachers are lab technicians with unwitting children as their mice. You couldn’t pay me enough to do this stuff.
On Monday, the Vancouver School Board approved a policy change aimed at accommodating gender identity and sexual orientation. The motive is admirable enough, to prevent students being singled out, bullied or otherwise discriminated against on the basis of gender. The complexity derives from the board’s determination to allow not just for actual gender, but “perceived” gender, i.e. the gender the student identifies with, as opposed to the gender on their birth certificate. Parents who questioned the change argued, quite reasonably, that six-year-olds aren’t qualified to understand all the intricacies of identity issues. Some of them can’t even use the toilet yet, much less decide which washroom to do it in.
Nonetheless, the school board forged ahead, even deciding to adopt new pronouns for those who would rather pick no gender at all. A last-minute amendment mandated that “xe, xem and xyr” may be used in place of “he/she” or “him/her”. These are “sex-neutral third-person” terms used to repair the failure of the English language to allow for 21st century gender sensitivities. The British long ago began using the term “one” – as in “one does wish for a glass of water” — to get around this problem, but it’s viewed as a bit cold and snooty, and therefore undesirable.
Parents accused school authorities of pushing their own agenda
In addition to new pronouns, the Vancouver board also goes to considerable length to protect “privacy”, including, it would seem, keeping the student’s chosen new gender a secret from his/her or xyr parents. A provision in the policy notes that while the student’s chosen gender identity will “whenever possible” be included in class lists and timetables, “communications between school and home shall use a student’s legal name and the pronoun corresponding to the student’s gender assigned at birth” unless otherwise requested. It’s the student’s right to decide “when, with whom, and how much information to share”. They will also have the right “to dress in a manner consistent with their gender identity or gender expression,” even if that is “not consistent with societal expectations of masculinity/femininity.”
Students will be enabled to choose their preferred washroom, or “a reasonable alternative washroom” if they desire “increased privacy.” In such cases the alternative arrangement “will be provided in a way that protects the students’ ability to keep their trans status confidential.” It is not spelled out how other kids will be kept from reaching the obvious conclusion when students are seen using the “alternative washroom,” but that is one of the many difficulties that arises when school boards try to make hard and fast rules related to anything as amorphous as a young person’s self-image, particularly at a stage in development when identity issues are notoriously fraught and individuals are not at a level of maturity ideal for making such critical judgments.
B.C. teachers will presumably be the ones to add this social minefield to the other developmental issues they are already expected to shoulder on behalf of, or sometimes in spite of, parents (In this case it appears they may be expected to actively keep parents in the dark about a critical element of their child’s growth). Perhaps in recognition of the possibility teachers won’t want to go anywhere near it (many male teachers already fear the risk of inadvertently finding themselves alone in a room with a female student), the policy stipulates that schools must appoint at least one staff person to be a “Safe Contact”. If no one volunteers, a member of the administration will be stuck with it.
The policy was adopted amid much controversy, particularly from parents who accused school authorities of pushing their own agenda with inadequate consultation with parents and medical experts.
“We’re talking about meaningful conversation with parents and the medical and mental health professions. This is not meaningful conversation. This is politics of division, it’s getting people upset and angry,” an angry parent told the CBC. But board members were unmoved, treating parents as a threat to their own children.
“I didn’t realize how much opposition there was out there in our communities to keeping kids safe and included and welcome,” said board chairwoman Patti Bacchus, who declared herself “proud” of the changes.
Schools used to be relatively straightforward operations: you sent your children and they came back with an education. That hasn’t been the case for some years, but the extent to which “progressive” politics has intruded on the actual learning process can’t help but alarm many parents who would prefer to remain free of whatever social preoccupation board members feel the desire to dabble in. Perhaps there is room for a breakaway faction, offering “politics-free” learning for those who still feel they are at least as qualified as school board members to choose their child’s path to maturity."
Vancouver has some of the effeminate, pussified men I've ever seen. I'm not surprised. If you want to meet real men in Canada, go to rural Alberta or Saskawatchen.
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It's not even the true upper class, similar as Excelsior has noted, the true upper class are relatively conservative and follow more traditional customs. Yes the girls are sluts, but the most unnormal thing this group does is at the most bisexuality. The girls mask their promiscuity with a posh facade, responding to sex and hookups the most adult like fashion. The family structure in this segment of society here is very much in tact.
The only weird phenomenon I've been seeing recently in this group is that a lot of boys aged 14+ are starting to identify as bi, something I've only seen happening in schools/areas that are more affluent.
The push for weird progressive ideas is coming from the white middle class (upper and lower) and this group is the one that produces the most "socially activist" teenagers that love to peddle the eco-feminist lgbt agenda alongside the sick adults that praise them. This push allows for the lower class to continue producing degenerates that are encouraged to exist. I've been noticing a lot more "pansexuals" coming out of this group.
I did notice something strange, the media here in response to this policy has been parading around an affluent Asian mother of a "transgendered 10year old FtM" :s
In Freakonomics, the authors explain how certain names become popular at particular times and argue thats because lower classes start naming their kids that in hopes that will help them identify with a particular segment of the population. (IE, poor parents naming their kids with the names that are popular amongst more affluent parents)
I wonder if the same thing happens with gender identity, with parents pushing their kids to accept or adapt to certain identities because its the "cool thing to do"
"Oh, Martha has been such a great parent for xor child. She even sued the school for xor right to wear transparent clothes to xor gym class!"
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Transgender 10 year old? Thats just plain retarded, what does a 10 yo knows about sexuality, let alone gender identity?
When I was 10 I didnt even knew what was the penis for. Oh, I knew girls didnt had one, and that it had something to do with reproducing, I just didnt understood they where meant to be rubbed together.
I wonder if the same thing happens with gender identity, with parents pushing their kids to accept or adapt to certain identities because its the "cool thing to do"
"Oh, Martha has been such a great parent for xor child. She even sued the school for xor right to wear transparent clothes to xor gym class!"
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Transgender 10 year old? Thats just plain retarded, what does a 10 yo knows about sexuality, let alone gender identity?
When I was 10 I didnt even knew what was the penis for. Oh, I knew girls didnt had one, and that it had something to do with reproducing, I just didnt understood they where meant to be rubbed together.
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Interesting point germanico, it is almost like a case of Munchhausen syndrome by proxy but instead of a sick or poisoned kid it is a "transgendered" child. They probably proclaim "look at me, I am such a great parent that I embrace my transgendered child" while quietly covering up the fact that they are forcing that shit down their kids throat. Meanwhile that parent is enjoying all the attention they and their child are getting.
Interesting point germanico, it is almost like a case of Munchhausen syndrome by proxy but instead of a sick or poisoned kid it is a "transgendered" child. They probably proclaim "look at me, I am such a great parent that I embrace my transgendered child" while quietly covering up the fact that they are forcing that shit down their kids throat. Meanwhile that parent is enjoying all the attention they and their child are getting.
This transgender shit is getting out of control. These are just broken people who are sexually confused. They werent "born this way." There's a reason so many of them are suicidal.
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