uni said:
98% of Kentucky Fried Chicken is made of ingredients other than chicken.
VIOLENCE against men promoted in the newest KFC commercial
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98% of Kentucky Fried Chicken is made of ingredients other than chicken.
I know this is bordering on MRA territory, but theignoredgender youtube channel is one of the best channels covering misandry.
Even though his primary goal is to spread awareness, he does a great job of logically explaining without sounding like a scornful person about how hatred, especially violence against men is being portrayed in the media.
AntiTrace
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MikeCF said:
I completely agree and those are the extreme ends of the spectrum which should be addressed when the time arises.
If a woman beats up her husband and he is on the floor bleeding when the cops show up, he is going to jail. That is bullshit. That is worth fighting over.
If a one night stand regrets her decision and cries rape, the woman's word is held to a higher standard than the man's. That is bullshit. That is worth fighting over.
If the court finds the woman lied about and cried false-rape, rarely does she get a punishment that is equal to the defamation of character and mental anguish that she put the man through. That is bullshit. That is worth fighting over.
I'm talking more about the general day to day bickering back and forth between the feminists and MRA or whatever groups.
When some jezebel fem cat posts her newest profound ideas of ignorance, it may be fun to troll the comments a bit, but its nothing to get worked up about.
When some commercial makes men out to look like idiots, there is no need to be crying out for repercussions. It's nothing new, it's not a sign of the growing reach of feminism, its the marketing department trying to use comedy to boost sales.
As a disclaimer I didn't watch the video. I have also been married and divorced. I have also been the wrong song of a false rape claim. I just think we tend to over-analyze some things when it comes to feminism.
I don't mind the MRAs or Anti-Feminism guys on here based on what they say exactly. I dislike them because of what they don't say. They tell us about all these problems but don't give any solutions beyond unrealistic ones like "don't get married" or "don't interact with women".
To the MRA/Anti-Feminist Types and Uni: You think we don't know about this shit? This is the last place you need to spread awareness. Your constant bleating of "this is wrong" and "that is also wrong" is like saying "You won't get laid if you got no game" or "You miss all the shots you don't take". Great. We got it. What next?
Case in point:
What are you doing about it? Why don't you tell us what you're doing about it? Maybe some people will be inspired by your example and do the same. Maybe you need help to do something - ask for help.
Just don't patronize us. You ask for our thoughts and I imagine you're not liking what you're getting. Maybe you're hoping for battle plans and but instead you receive opinions on your piece and low ones at that.It's not that we have issue with your intention. It's just that more than one guy has tried to jam these facts down our throats. We're hearing nothing new other than new statistics and new ways to present them to us.
But in reality, we're not learning anything new other than "99 Statistics on why you're fucked for being born with a penis in today's world". At this point it's just noise.We're a practical bunch - stop "informing us" and appeal to our practical natures - with things we can actually do about this.
Wald
To the MRA/Anti-Feminist Types and Uni: You think we don't know about this shit? This is the last place you need to spread awareness. Your constant bleating of "this is wrong" and "that is also wrong" is like saying "You won't get laid if you got no game" or "You miss all the shots you don't take". Great. We got it. What next?
Case in point:
uni said:
What are you doing about it? Why don't you tell us what you're doing about it? Maybe some people will be inspired by your example and do the same. Maybe you need help to do something - ask for help.
Just don't patronize us. You ask for our thoughts and I imagine you're not liking what you're getting. Maybe you're hoping for battle plans and but instead you receive opinions on your piece and low ones at that.It's not that we have issue with your intention. It's just that more than one guy has tried to jam these facts down our throats. We're hearing nothing new other than new statistics and new ways to present them to us.
But in reality, we're not learning anything new other than "99 Statistics on why you're fucked for being born with a penis in today's world". At this point it's just noise.We're a practical bunch - stop "informing us" and appeal to our practical natures - with things we can actually do about this.
Wald
If there was a duality of:
Ignore feminism<-------------------------> Activism against feminism
I would be leaning heavily towards the left. I'm not one to be an ostrich that buries its head in the sand, but honestly, feminism and the modern Americunt don't affect my daily life all that much. These days, I've been spending more time with my Filipino gf and working my ass off and making money, and honestly, to the rest of the guys in the U.S., I'd recommend doing the same. Find a foreign-born gf that takes care of you, make your money, find your happiness. Run the bare minimum of approaches just to keep some chops up, but save most of your resources for gaming outside the country.
Do what you love. Work on cars, play an instrument, cook for yourself, read, hang with your friends, surf, hike, rock climb. Life is too short and there's far too much to do to get too wrapped up in what the media/government/Matrix are doing.
I don't have a T.V. so I never see the shit above, so it never gets to me. I don't eat fast food and for the most part I'm not too wrapped up in the typical American lifestyle. This isn't a matter of "if you ignore it it'll go away". This is a matter of, "If you unplug from it, it won't have the resources to continue". I don't have any actual hope that everyone will suddenly turn off their TVs and stop eating fast food and go out and start exercising and reading, but there's nothing I can do about that except work on my own life.
You don't like what the idiot box tells you? Do this:
:fuckthat:
Don't like the image that fast food advertising is promoting? Stop eating fast food. Don't like the underlying misandry that permeates Hollywood movies? Don't watch them. You don't need to make a big deal out of it either. Street protest is useless. Vote with your dollar. In a capitalist society change comes about through economic means.
In the meantime, whatever your ideal is, whatever you think is the shining example of masculinity, BE that. Not only will you not give a shit about "Misandry in the Media" anymore, but you will directly counteract the effect those ads and media portrayals have on society.
Trust me, the world needs masculinity. I know I'm not the only one on these forums that experiences funny little incidents here and there; making sexist remarks, being cocky, ballsy, walking around with a devil-may-care attitude, and while doing so being met with nothing but flirtation and affection from other women. There can be 1,000,000 laws in place that outlaw masculinity; it doesn't matter. Women still need it. The demand goes up and the supply goes down every year. The way to beat feminism isn't by arguing or even discussing facts, presenting court cases, etc etc. That's bitch-work. The way to beat feminism is by being masculine; a hard-headed, sure-footed, un-flappable, un-phased, strong-willed MALE.
Ignore feminism<-------------------------> Activism against feminism
I would be leaning heavily towards the left. I'm not one to be an ostrich that buries its head in the sand, but honestly, feminism and the modern Americunt don't affect my daily life all that much. These days, I've been spending more time with my Filipino gf and working my ass off and making money, and honestly, to the rest of the guys in the U.S., I'd recommend doing the same. Find a foreign-born gf that takes care of you, make your money, find your happiness. Run the bare minimum of approaches just to keep some chops up, but save most of your resources for gaming outside the country.
Do what you love. Work on cars, play an instrument, cook for yourself, read, hang with your friends, surf, hike, rock climb. Life is too short and there's far too much to do to get too wrapped up in what the media/government/Matrix are doing.
I don't have a T.V. so I never see the shit above, so it never gets to me. I don't eat fast food and for the most part I'm not too wrapped up in the typical American lifestyle. This isn't a matter of "if you ignore it it'll go away". This is a matter of, "If you unplug from it, it won't have the resources to continue". I don't have any actual hope that everyone will suddenly turn off their TVs and stop eating fast food and go out and start exercising and reading, but there's nothing I can do about that except work on my own life.
You don't like what the idiot box tells you? Do this:
:fuckthat:
Don't like the image that fast food advertising is promoting? Stop eating fast food. Don't like the underlying misandry that permeates Hollywood movies? Don't watch them. You don't need to make a big deal out of it either. Street protest is useless. Vote with your dollar. In a capitalist society change comes about through economic means.
In the meantime, whatever your ideal is, whatever you think is the shining example of masculinity, BE that. Not only will you not give a shit about "Misandry in the Media" anymore, but you will directly counteract the effect those ads and media portrayals have on society.
Trust me, the world needs masculinity. I know I'm not the only one on these forums that experiences funny little incidents here and there; making sexist remarks, being cocky, ballsy, walking around with a devil-may-care attitude, and while doing so being met with nothing but flirtation and affection from other women. There can be 1,000,000 laws in place that outlaw masculinity; it doesn't matter. Women still need it. The demand goes up and the supply goes down every year. The way to beat feminism isn't by arguing or even discussing facts, presenting court cases, etc etc. That's bitch-work. The way to beat feminism is by being masculine; a hard-headed, sure-footed, un-flappable, un-phased, strong-willed MALE.
MikeCF said:
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Aliblahba said:
I was thinking about boycotting KFC (or is it Burger King?), but I don't go there anyway. Who fucking needs that unhealthy shit they call food?
I only go to fast food "restaurants" when I need a free toilet, or when I'm hungry and there are absolutely no other options....maybe 3-4 times a year.
I agree this commercial is terrible, and I would boycott KFC, but I never eat that junk anyway.
This commercial says one of two things...
#1) Women's violence against men must be tolerated and is funny. This is how families are being destroyed and poverty spreads as our country collapses.
#2) Some have pointed out here it shows how irrational and emotional women are. Fine, if they are so irrational and emotional, then be it, but don't vote for liberal policies and white knight conservatism that is destroying our country. Stay in the damn kitchen.
This commercial says one of two things...
#1) Women's violence against men must be tolerated and is funny. This is how families are being destroyed and poverty spreads as our country collapses.
#2) Some have pointed out here it shows how irrational and emotional women are. Fine, if they are so irrational and emotional, then be it, but don't vote for liberal policies and white knight conservatism that is destroying our country. Stay in the damn kitchen.
uni said:
And another thing, you know what my real thoughts are when I see ads like that? I think:
"Damn, those actors look familiar. I think that one chick was a server at that Italian place I used to work at."
These ads have nothing to do with reality. "Reality" is these are struggling actors trying to get their foot in Hollywood and every once in a while they get a huge break with a principal role in one of these ads and they make a whopping $30,000 for that year, as it's likely they didn't get any other major role that year.
As annoying as those actors are, they're just doing their job. They were cast by a director and the part was written by a writer.
But they're doing their job too. They're reacting from market research done on target customer base. They're reacting to the culture.
Hollywood gives people want they want. You can only play the victim card so long. We're all sitting at the buffet gorging ourselves on the pile of lies and bullshit that we're being fed and it's only a minority of us that have the wits and sense to stand up and say, "Wait a minute here..."
If Hollywood and the media didn't make money portraying misandry, they'd stop. So who's REALLY to blame here? We are, as a collective.
So like I said, we'll continue to be in the minority, but the best you can do is live your own life by your own terms. Speak up when need be, put the occasional feminist in her place, but just be a guy. A guy's guy.
Go to your local Target or Wal-Mart. Go to a Starbucks. Get in line at McDonald's. You want the enemy? There they are: the GUYS that support those establishments. The so-called "men" that are face down in the trough of bullshit and they're consuming as much as they can as fast as they can. The average, overweight, slow-witted, ignorant American male. Where were they when no-fault divorce and alimony law was being written into law? Where were any of us?
It doesn't matter anymore, and that's what's so liberating. Okay: so marriage is fucked and the family is fucked and the U.S. is fucked and we're made to look like fools in the media. Well, you can say that everything is fucked and the whole world has gone to the shitter, but in the meantime I feel like I live like a goddamned king compared to the historical precedent and certainly compared to the rest of the world, so anyone care to explain that to me?
As usual, the dude has my proxy.
I think you feel that way because the knowledge you have keeps you outside of the matrix, and even though we don't like the matrix, it's rewarding to know we don't actively live and partake in it.
I think you feel that way because the knowledge you have keeps you outside of the matrix, and even though we don't like the matrix, it's rewarding to know we don't actively live and partake in it.
Kingsley Davis
Ostrich
KFC's food is way more offensive than that fuckery ad.
Walderschmidt said:
I am just a man. I am not a MRA.
My solution which I brainstormed now, is :
1. We can spread awareness about all the multitude of double standards
and how men are discriminated (false rape accusations, being always
rape at divorces, and over 60% of marriages end in divorces anyway,
men seem to have only responsibilities, while women have only rights,
double standards about so many things, etc etc)
2. United, we have the power to gather many men from the 3.5 billion men worldwide, and with our powers united,
we can push for laws with TRUE equality, and change the laws which are now in which whenever violence is done by woman, she never goes to prison,
but when violence is done by a man, many times he gets the lethal injection and his life is finished
"We can spread awareness" is a little vague and rhetorical. I think most guys are well aware of the double standards that exist. The issue is implementing legal change. Paging Law Dogger...
This is a little hysterical-sounding, which is going to hurt your case. "United" implies that men as a whole, globally, are an oppressed group, which is hardly the case. The bulk of injustice rests largely in the Anglosphere.
Here's another thing: I don't want equality. That's what got us into this mess to begin with. I want men to understand their roles, and for women to understand theirs. I'd be happy with a Native American setup: go out and hunt and fish while the women do everything else.
I also don't give two shits about most guys. While I understand that it would be better for all of us if men collectively put our foot down against skrillex haircuts, unfair divorce and separation laws, and undesirable female behavior, I also understand it works in my favor when masses of "men" are becoming further feminized and beta. Tricky balance there I guess.
this is where kfc gets their chickens
finger lickin' good?
finger lickin' good?
Ziltoid
Pelican
Walderschmidt said:
I dunno man, I don't really see any problem with the Everything Else forum sometimes being a sounding board for new examples of outrageous anti-man shit people find online. Roosh does the same thing on his twitter fairly often, is he "preaching to the choir" too?
I'll agree that keyboard activism is annoying, but I usually don't see that much of it around here. I don't see how anyone posting something under the pretense of "hey, check out this crazy shit I found that falls under the manosphere's umbrella of interest" is obligated to provide profound solutions.
Ziltoid said:
Thank you Ziltoid, you are definitely entirely right.
And this KFC commercial for full-of-antibiotics & hormones spicy
chicken bits had effects and feedbacks in the real world:
http://www.avoiceformen.com/mens-rights/kfc-slaps-men-to-sell-chicken/
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