Viruses aren't contagious thread

[DanielH]

A new study under review (not yet final) claims to have infected healthy patients with "wild-type" coronavirus.

This is all I could find on how they transmitted the virus:

Safety, tolerability and viral kinetics during SARS-CoV-2 human challenge

To establish a novel SARS-CoV-2 human challenge model, 36 volunteers aged 18-29 years without evidence of previous infection or vaccination were inoculated with 10 TCID50 of a wild-type virus (SARS-CoV-2/human/GBR/484861/2020) intranasally. Two participants were excluded from per pr...

www.researchsquare.com

The media has already used the conclusion of the study to further their aims, as if the paper has been peer reviewed:

Deliberate infections give unique Covid insight

The first symptoms and positive test results appeared within two days of being infected.

www.bbc.com

Exposure to one nasal droplet enough for Covid infection – study

Trial in which volunteers were given dose of virus is first to monitor people during entire course of infection

www.theguardian.com

Since all "virus isolates" aren't actually isolates of the virus, but a stew of all types of material (antibiotics, dead monkey cells, fetal calf syndrome, etc), I don't believe they've shown that they gave subjects only the virus. Until they can prove that the subjects didn't receive anything else, we cannot conclude that a virus was the cause of infection.

Frustrating how they get away with this, as if dead monkey cells, cow cells, and different chemicals being introduced into the body wouldn't irritate you.

Tangentially related my family was just booted from our first pediatricians's office because we didn't give our newborn son the Hep B vaccine in the hospital, as if there's any reason for giving a healthy newborn not in daycare a vaccine for a disease that transmits through infected blood while nobody in our family has Hep B. Told the pediatrician my wife had a severe adverse reaction to the Hep B vaccine in the past, she just did not care "well I've never seen that in infants" okay lady. Medical tyranny, can't stand these "board certified" drug dealing, cancer dealing "doctors" who would call our physician saints conspiracy theorists and deranged for suggesting things like eating a good diet and drinking holy water. She also gave us grief for not giving him the vitamin k shot, she asked us to explain our reasoning, I did, and it was just a blank stare. I honestly don't think they even know why they do the things they do, they do it because all the other doctors do and it gets them bonus money and discounts from insurance companies.

 

[Roosh]

From my experience, doctors are great at memorization, but they don't have the problem-solving ability of engineers. If they encounter a disease profile that is not what the books talk about, they are stumped. They are essentially human decision trees: If [something] then give [this treatment]. Increasingly, those decision trees are coded by insurance companies (especially for hospital stays). Their number one fear is getting sued, not you getting worse. They are not independent thinkers and will not care about any truth you've researched.

 

[doctorweedmd]

According to Virologists, the HUMAN genome is majority VIRAL in origin.

The Human “Virome”

“Viruses are microscopic parasites, generally much smaller than bacteria. They lack the capacity to thrive and reproduce outside of a host body. When most people think of “viruses…

viroliegy.com

This may be dare I say more clown world than the "I am munkey" lunacy pushed in the Evolutionary Biology field.

 

[doctorweedmd]

Via Dr Tom Cowan's Telegram page:



"I'm thrilled to announce the first public launching of Stefan Lanka's work. His findings, along with the work of an independent mathematician prove that the original SARS-COV-2 genome cannot be sequenced. You can read it here: https://bit.ly/3rqoDd0 "

 

[Don Quixote]

https://risingtidefoundation.net/20...the-coming-revolutions-in-optical-biophysics/

Luc Montaigne just passed away so I'm looking at some of his discoveries. I think it's relevant to this discussion.

 

[doodydota]

Steve Kirsch has stirred up a "does the virus exist" debate at his blog. The comment section is quite good and insightfull.

Settling the virus debate challenge from Dr. Sam Bailey

They have a new challenge out. But they won't debate any of us, they won't tell me what I caught if it wasn't COVID, and they won't fund a qualified scientist who accepted their challenge. Stunning.

stevekirsch.substack.com

 

[Bird]

"Kirsch" sounds Jewish to me.
If you have followed this man for a while, you can now see who he really is.
Don't waste your time, ditch him and move on.

 

[DanielH]

Steve Kirsch has stirred up a "does the virus exist" debate at his blog. The comment section is quite good and insightfull.

Settling the virus debate challenge from Dr. Sam Bailey

They have a new challenge out. But they won't debate any of us, they won't tell me what I caught if it wasn't COVID, and they won't fund a qualified scientist who accepted their challenge. Stunning.

stevekirsch.substack.com

“The fastest way to settle this is a debate”

Uh, no Steve, the fastest way to settle this is to isolate a virus. They're literally offering a reward to anyone who can do that, so his whining about how expensive it is is quite ridiculous. Just isolate a virus. Shouldn't be that hard, if a virus is a cohesive piece of material with the same or almost identical molecular weight as other viruses of the same type, there is no reason you cannot isolate them, everything else is just muddying the waters.

 

[GuitarVH]

“The fastest way to settle this is a debate”

Uh, no Steve, the fastest way to settle this is to isolate a virus. They're literally offering a reward to anyone who can do that, so his whining about how expensive it is is quite ridiculous. Just isolate a virus. Shouldn't be that hard, if a virus is a cohesive piece of material with the same or almost identical molecular weight as other viruses of the same type, there is no reason you cannot isolate them, everything else is just muddying the waters.

Discarding germ theory is the ENTIRE crux of the matter. Kirsch and others want to know what they had if they didn't have Covid? How could they have gotten sick if it wasn't the new fabricated name of Covid? Answer - it's not ONE thing. It could be many things, including a myriad of common illnesses that while temporarily annoying, are usually not even close to life threatening or contagious.

I agree with the reporter Jon Rappoport who has been exposing this idea since the mid 1980s when they used the exact same model with AIDS (HIV). They scare the public long enough with media propaganda until they convince the patients to take a deadly medication, in the case of AIDS, AZT, and in the case of Covid, the Covid "vaccine". Then the problems really begin to accelerate.

As long as people agree there is a scary, dangerous, magic virus, they will continue following the unimaginable tyrannical measures of the government medical apparatus until they are physically/mentally weakened, devoid of all personal liberty and eventually just dead.

Covid « Jon Rappoport's Blog

 

[Roosh]

Kirsch and others want to know what they had if they didn't have Covid?

It is an unproven assumption that you "had" something when you get sick, and then when you feel better, the something left you. Germ theory is so entrenched in our brains that we think the only way to get ill is by a foreign object invading our body.

 

[julzza]

It is an unproven assumption that you "had" something when you get sick, and then when you feel better, the something left you. Germ theory is so entrenched in our brains that we think the only way to get ill is by a foreign object invading our body.

All illness shines a light on a broken heart.

 

[The Catalyst]

This is a complicated issue to answer, because you have the broad genus of Terrain Theory, and then you have the various “species” of competing paradigms within that larger genus that overlap with each other, but also differ slightly in their explanations in certain crucial respects. They may be 80 or 90 percent the same in their explanations but they aren’t 100 percent in sync.

The “species” or “paradigm” of Terrain Theory I myself have looked at most closely is German New Medicine, formulated and developed by the late Dr. Ryke Hamer in the 1980s and 1990s. And he at least did have an explanation for the epidemic that ravaged the Native American population.

First off, while he did believe smallpox occurred, he also believed the large majority of native deaths at the time were caused by pneumonia, not smallpox. According to him, diseases such as smallpox and pneumonia are triggered by what he called conflict shocks, which are sudden debilitating biological shocks that strike you out of nowhere and blindside you. These sudden shocks are what “activate” the disease process in the body. A disease like pneumonia is triggered by what Hamer called a territorial conflict or existence fright conflict. It’s an emergency biological program activated by the brain to give the person a temporary “boost” or “advantage” of some kind.

Now this is the key, crucial point. Hamer discovered that all diseases undergo a two phase process:

1) the conflict active phase: during this phase there are often no negative symptoms and you aren’t even cognizant that the emergency program or “disease” is active. You feel nothing strange. But meanwhile, something has altered in your body that is giving you some sort of temporary physical or mental advantage, some “boost” or “bonus” that is designed to increase your survival potential in an emegency siutation.

2) the healing/resolution phase: now’s the time when you feel sick, pained, exhausted, weary, and need to rest and recuperate. It’s similar to how Olympic athletes who strain their body’s potential to its limits need to spend a lot of time sleeping and resting. When the body is pushed to its limits, there needs to be healing and recuperation.

With pneumonia, here is a brief explanation:

Pneumonia - German New Medicine Online Seminars

The origin of pneumonia is what we call a “territorial fear” in men and a “nest fear” in women. In many cases aggression of some kind was involved.

www.gnmonlineseminars.com

It is easy to see, if this theory is correct, how mass waves of pneumonia were triggered in the Native Americans when the Europeans took away their lands and territories they always believed they would possess forever. Being driven off your land will activate the territorial shock conflict and initiate the “pneumonia” program. Sadly, many died of the pneumonia instead of fully resolving and completing the healing phase.

The key thing to emphasize here, though, is that the “pneumonia,” from the standpoint of biology, is a worthwhile risk - triggered by a territorial conflict, if your territory, your “home,” your sacred grounds, have been stripped away from you, a build up of extra fluids in the body enables you to survive longer when you suddenly find yourself, without any forewarning, deprived of your accustomed intake of water, food and shelter - especially the former.

Now do you see why virus theory and vaccines are so dangerous? They are turning God and Nature into an enemy that must be fought and annihilated. When in fact all we need is proper understanding of the disease process and mechanism, including the specific “triggers” for each disease, and we can then maximize the benefits and minimize the risks and dangers associated with each disease, all without needing vaccines at all. And in the future, we will be able to automatically switch the disease process off at will simply by getting more in touch with our own minds and spirits!

Check out my post here for more on this subject:

Viruses aren't contagious thread

Well done for getting you blood tested. It's interesting to me that your results showed toxicity as this has been on my mind a lot. Toxic substances may well have been used to create pockets of deaths in targeted areas, which in turn would generate world-wide coverage to get the pandemic ball...

www.rooshvforum.com

And this one:

Viruses aren't contagious thread

Well done for getting you blood tested. It's interesting to me that your results showed toxicity as this has been on my mind a lot. Toxic substances may well have been used to create pockets of deaths in targeted areas, which in turn would generate world-wide coverage to get the pandemic ball...

www.rooshvforum.com

I'm looking up more gnm now. It explains a lot and I'm flirting with these ideas and paradigm...

 

[The Catalyst]

By the way, for those familiar with gnm, I'm curious to hear explanations for the following diseases I have: ADHD, chronic fatigue, seasonal allergies, recurring boils. And I guess what to do about them.

 

[inthefade]

By the way, for those familiar with gnm, I'm curious to hear explanations for the following diseases I have: ADHD, chronic fatigue, seasonal allergies, recurring boils. And I guess what to do about them.

What's your diet like? Do you masturbate? Do you exercise? Do you lift heavy weights?

I don't buy adhd. I am very fortunate my parents told the doctors to f off when they tried to give me amphetamines as a child.

 

[rainy]

I don't buy adhd.

Me either.

People are loaded with toxins/chemicals/bad food and aren't active/exercise enough.

Beyond that, should be able to train your brain to focus for 45 mins and then get up and walk a little. We're not made to sit at a desk for 5 hours. We're made to have sunshine barreling down on our bare chests with dirt covered hands.

 

[The Catalyst]

What's your diet like? Do you masturbate? Do you exercise? Do you lift heavy weights?

I don't buy adhd. I am very fortunate my parents told the doctors to f off when they tried to give me amphetamines as a child.

ADHD misdiagnosis/overdiagnosis=/= not a thing. It absolutely is a thing even if you don't have it yourself.

Mostly clean, I need to eat a lot of calories. About once a month. Light exercise depending on chronic fatigue. No I don't lift.

Me either.

People are loaded with toxins/chemicals/bad food and aren't active/exercise enough.

Beyond that, should be able to train your brain to focus for 45 mins and then get up and walk a little. We're not made to sit at a desk for 5 hours. We're made to have sunshine barreling down on our bare chests with dirt covered hands.

Hard for me to even focus for 10 mins.

 

[The Catalyst]

By the way, for those familiar with gnm, I'm curious to hear explanations for the following diseases I have: ADHD, chronic fatigue, seasonal allergies, recurring boils. And I guess what to do about them.

From my cursory reading, the explanations:

ADHD= caused when focusing on something is traumatic, so body adapts by getting distracted/not focusing
chronic fatigue= caused when doing things/are on a track body things is traumatic(perhaps when you don't actually have energy to give without hurting yourself)
seasonal allergies= allergies in general are because of "tracks"/associations with something else happening at the same time as something traumatic
boils= skin issues triggered by attack conflict

 

[Max Roscoe]

I came across an interesting link discussing Bechamp and Terrain Theory:

The Lost History of Medicine

If I could live my life over again, I would devote it to proving that germs seek their natural habitat—diseased tissue—rather than being the cause of the diseased tissue; e.g., mosquitoes seek the stagnant water, but do not cause the pool to become stagnant.

Rudolph Virchow (Father of Pathology)

I’ve always known the terrain was the key, but I had always thought of the terrain as the immune system. I had had no idea that the proper terrain alone was, by itself, enough for perfect health. Nor had it ever occurred to me that the immune system was merely a backup system that took over when the terrain failed.


So, Béchamp was, in effect, telling Pasteur that his experiments proved nothing because it poisoned the experimental animal’s terrain, hence allowing the germs to attack the diseased tissues caused by the poisoning.

The experiment referred to above was Pasteur injecting diseases into the bloodstream of healthy animals. Bechamp criticized the experiments heavily.

Healthy Terrain


So what is healthy terrain? Béchamp began to describe it nearly two hundred years ago, but Claude Bernard finally put it this way. It consists of two internal factors:


1. Alkalinity


2. Negative Electrical Charge


Contributing to a healthy terrain are two factors, according to Bernard:


1. Nutrition


2. Toxins


One must have proper nutrition and be free of toxins to maintain a healthy terrain. More recent studies add one more factor contributing to a healthy terrain: Emotions/Mental Health.

We live in a toxic society. Our food, water, air is poisoned. Additionally, we are poisoning ourselves with drugs, alcohol, smoke, and even the way we cook our foods (barbecuing, microwaving).


Nearly every drug your doctor gives you causes your body to become acidic. Every can of pop, every cup of coffee, every teaspoon of sugar, every piece of chicken, steak, or fish you consume causes your body to become acidic.

Disease begins when our alkaline tissues turn acidic causing inflammation, our negative energy charge turns positive, and when our biome gets out of balance.

This is the beginning of disease.

 

[inthefade]

ADHD misdiagnosis/overdiagnosis=/= not a thing. It absolutely is a thing even if you don't have it yourself.

Mostly clean, I need to eat a lot of calories. About once a month. Light exercise depending on chronic fatigue. No I don't lift.

Have you considered that doctors telling you that you have adhd is what makes you continue to be unable to pay attention or makes it worse? Or that you're bored? Are you on amphetamines?
What is "clean"? Do you eat many estrogenic foods? Vegan nonsense?
Try going 90 days no ejaculation. The chronic fatigue sounds like low T to me. Real exercise and moving heavy things will help.

 

[doctorweedmd]

Discarding germ theory is the ENTIRE crux of the matter. Kirsch and others want to know what they had if they didn't have Covid? How could they have gotten sick if it wasn't the new fabricated name of Covid? Answer - it's not ONE thing. It could be many things, including a myriad of common illnesses that while temporarily annoying, are usually not even close to life threatening or contagious.

I agree with the reporter Jon Rappoport who has been exposing this idea since the mid 1980s when they used the exact same model with AIDS (HIV). They scare the public long enough with media propaganda until they convince the patients to take a deadly medication, in the case of AIDS, AZT, and in the case of Covid, the Covid "vaccine". Then the problems really begin to accelerate.

As long as people agree there is a scary, dangerous, magic virus, they will continue following the unimaginable tyrannical measures of the government medical apparatus until they are physically/mentally weakened, devoid of all personal liberty and eventually just dead.

Covid « Jon Rappoport's Blog

Open Letter to Steve Kirsch, January 10, 2022 – Fluoride Free Peel

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