Viruses aren't contagious thread

[Redcrosse]

doctorweedmd:

Thanks for that great summary of Lanka’s findings.

Jive Turkey:

It’s important to realize that Lanka and others are not denying the existence of bacteria or various other microbes or toxins, venoms, poisons, etc. It’s specifically the concept of infectious viruses he’s attacking.

Here’s how the difference between bacteria and viruses is normally stated:

The difference between bacteria and viruses, which is more harmful, and how to prevent infection from both

Bacteria and viruses are the most common causes of disease, but they have some key differences. Here's what you need to know.

www.insider.com

• Most bacteria aren't harmful to humans, but most viruses are potentially harmful.
• Bacteria are living organisms, while viruses are parasitic and need a live host to reproduce.

Lanka would agree that most bacteria aren’t harmful — though some are — but he would disagree about what viruses really are. The real reason viruses, he’d say, always need a live host is that viruses aren’t a parasite at all, they are not a foreign invader infecting the host, they are an intrinsic part and parcel of the host. The nominal “disease” is not the body going wrong, it’s the body activating a sensible biological program to cope with an unexpected emergency.

Lanka is a believer in GNM (German New Medicine) which explains diseases using a completely different paradigm from viral theory. It’s a more detailed, complex version of terrain theory.

Say you ingest something extremely harmful to the body. This means the body cannot digest what you ingested. So it has to expel it. This is what then happens:

1) the body comes into contact with some rancid foodstuff or some other substance harmful to it

2) the brain activates the “stomach flu” emergency biological program every human body is equipped with; it does this to instantly start purging the body of the harmful substance that was involuntarily ingested

3) we know this is what happens because a particular configuration of concentric circles or rings shows up on CT brain scans when the patient is “sick” with stomach flu: and it always shows up in a precise area of the brain that is always the same for all people in the throes of stomach flu. If they have a different illness then the location of the ring pattern will be elsewhere in the brain. When the “stomach flu” program switches off and they feel better the ring pattern vanishes and can no longer be seen on the scans.

4) the particular symptoms of the “stomach flu” make perfect sense in dealing with the biological threat posed by an ingested toxin or rotten, indigestible food — because what are these symptoms? The body goes straight into “vomit and diarrhea” mode - why? Because that’s the quickest, most efficient way to expel anything toxic to the body that shouldn’t be there and simply can’t be digested and integrated into your system — and could cause permanent injury or death if not very quickly eliminated from the body

Viruses are a redundant explanation for why the stomach flu exists. People who drink unpurified, unboiled water in Mexico, for example, and then get sick are not getting sick from viruses in the water, but from bacteria. Stomach flu is not a biological mistake, it’s the body’s very efficient way of purging the body of whatever shouldn’t be there and which would constitute a serious health hazard if not eliminated as fast as possible via vomiting and diarrhea.

 

[GuitarVH]

 

[Jive Turkey]

How is this pro germ theory?

Because the anti-microbial cream treated the inflammation and weird smell.

 

[inthefade]

Because the anti-microbial cream treated the inflammation and weird smell.

That doesn't prove germ theory. See https://www.rooshvforum.com/threads/viruses-arent-contagious-thread.40984/post-1632116

 

[Roosh]

"Virology, a reductionist medical fraud, was a creation of the Rockefeller medical cabal." http://www.williamengdahl.com/englishNEO12July2022.php

 

[Bird]

This is good news, and we can close this case now that all the lies have been exposed. There have been decades of lies in this matter and that has now come to an end.

Thank you for going down the rabbit hole several times.

 

[Sooth]

Maybe the flu is Gods forced sabbatical. A humbling of the haughty every once in a while.

 

[traelo]

If viruses aren't contagious, then the historical narrative of how certain viruses were transmitted when the European colonists settled in the New World and spread it to the Native Americans, destroying their populations, would therefore be false. It could mean that those historical narratives were completely manufactured.

 

[The Catalyst]

If viruses aren't contagious, then the historical narrative of how certain viruses were transmitted when the European colonists settled in the New World and spread it to the Native Americans, destroying their populations, would therefore be false. It could mean that those historical narratives were completely manufactured.

If so I wonder the actual explanation.

 

[Redcrosse]

I mentioned the GNM explanation for the waves of Native American deaths in an earlier post: GNM attributes these deaths not to infectious germs but to severe conflict shocks that triggered some smallpox, bit mainly pneumonia, in the Natives from having their way of life upended by the Europeans:

Viruses aren't contagious thread

I'm still reading through this thread so apologies if this has been brought up, but the problem with "well WHADDABOUT THE BLACK DEATH" is that this, and many other illnesses, is caused by bacteria, not a virus. Terrain theory may be completely accurate about "viral" diseases, while other...

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[duskyforest]

If so I wonder the actual explanation.

It is my opinion that indeed the narrative of viruses decimating the native populations is completely false as mentioned above. I think this narrative was created to avoid having to explain the mass genocide of the north american Indians by primarily British and later US militaries.

If you look at most of Central and South America, indigenous populations are still in existence, in some cases their have been zero genetic mixing and they still live on the same lands their ancestors did. This is because the Spanish, who were Catholic, were focused generally speaking on the conversion of the natives, and not their eradication as the Anglo Saxon protestants did further north (speaking generally of course as there were exceptions and the Spanish did kill off natives in cases and also the natives were spared in some cases in north america).

If the virus narrative was true we should expect to see a similar level of native depopulation in South America which we don't see as arguably the Spanish and Portugese brought the same "viruses" as the English did.

Not a historian, just my two cents, but this explanation makes the most sense to me.

 

[SpaceShredder]

It is my opinion that indeed the narrative of viruses decimating the native populations is completely false as mentioned above. I think this narrative was created to avoid having to explain the mass genocide of the north american Indians by primarily British and later US militaries.

If you look at most of Central and South America, indigenous populations are still in existence, in some cases their have been zero genetic mixing and they still live on the same lands their ancestors did. This is because the Spanish, who were Catholic, were focused generally speaking on the conversion of the natives, and not their eradication as the Anglo Saxon protestants did further north (speaking generally of course as there were exceptions and the Spanish did kill off natives in cases and also the natives were spared in some cases in north america).

If the virus narrative was true we should expect to see a similar level of native depopulation in South America which we don't see as arguably the Spanish and Portugese brought the same "viruses" as the English did.

Not a historian, just my two cents, but this explanation makes the most sense to me.

I read a theory that the “small pox” epidemic was actually the result of bed bug infestation in that the Spanish brought over. No virus, just parasites. For some reason the Natives couldn’t deal with the bites

 

[Bird]

Prof. Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi:
"I have been teaching the wrong thing for 30 years. We urgently need to revise the vaccination chapters in the book. The whole vaccination industry is a huge scam...."



The global push for covid vaccination has accomplished one thing: the public has become much more skeptical about vaccination in general. As experimental gene therapeutics have failed across the board in efficacy and safety, a growing number of citizens are questioning whether other vaccination campaigns and recommendations are not based on lies. Prof. Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi also recently stated that what he had taught on vaccinations for thirty years urgently needed to be revised: The vaccination industry is a giant fraud, he said.

 

[basedgm]

Is there any explanation for what's happening with rabies then? I just had an encounter with a wild animal who bit me softly and am looking for guidance. It seems like people do die following dog bites -- what's going on exactly? I don't want to get the modern treatment which consists of abortion-derived vaccines.

 

[Roosh]

Is there any explanation for what's happening with rabies then? I just had an encounter with a wild animal who bit me softly and am looking for guidance. It seems like people do die following dog bites -- what's going on exactly? I don't want to get the modern treatment which consists of abortion-derived vaccines.

I don't think anyone here is qualified to give you that kind of guidance, though in the book What Really Makes You Ill, the author stated that rabies-like diseases affects mostly the poor who live in bad hygiene, particularly India. He doesn't believe that it's from animals, but his discussion was speculative. He said that it's merely correlative that people "die" from animal bites. The rabies rate in India is high because they live in proximity with animals and so that bumps up the correlation numbers.

I would pray fervently to the Lord for help on deciding what to do.

 

[basedgm]

I don't think anyone here is qualified to give you that kind of guidance, though in the book What Really Makes You Ill, the author stated that rabies-like diseases affects mostly the poor who live in bad hygiene, particularly India. He doesn't believe that it's from animals, but his discussion was speculative. He said that it's merely correlative that people "die" from animal bites. The rabies rate in India is high because they live in proximity with animals and so that bumps up the correlation numbers.

I would pray fervently to the Lord for help on deciding what to do.

Upon further investigation the dog has an owner living nearby so it was likely more of a territorial thing than something provoked by rabies. It's likely a false alarm, but quite a scary one reminding me of my mortality.

I've been living extremely materialistically lately. I've become focused in recent weeks on what looks like my career beginning to blossom and in so doing had forgotten about God and my daily prayer regimen. I suspect this was a way for Him to scare me back on track toward being focused on spiritual struggle.

 

[doodydota]

Tom Woods interviewed Dr. Mark Bailey on the topic of the virus scam. This episode is missing on YouTube.

Ep. 2282 Do Viruses Exist?

The most direct and radical challenge to the public-health consensus about COVID-19 and the correct response to it has come from a group of scientists who claim that virology itself is pseudoscience t...

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The interview itself is nothing new, but it will reach a lot of open minded truthers.
To me personally that's pretty huge, as I'm a life-time subscriber to his history lessons on libertyclassroom.com

 

[OhHeyCindy]

Not sure where to post this but my wife recently said something like “tons of girls in venezuela have HIV.” I’m not the most versed in the aids things , I just know it was mostly a disease between gays. Is this fake news? Why does it mean for a women to have hiv?

 

[Redcrosse]

Not sure where to post this but my wife recently said something like “tons of girls in venezuela have HIV.” I’m not the most versed in the aids things , I just know it was mostly a disease between gays. Is this fake news? Why does it mean for a women to have hiv?

It doesn’t mean anything. HIV is not the actual cause of AIDS. AIDS is an umbrella term encompassing different things. So in Africa they will claim people are dying of AIDS who are actually suffering from severe malnutrition. In North America it’s hundreds of thousands of gay guys who took the recreational drug “poppers” and got badly sick, then took the deadly drug AZT and quickly died. This is why “African AIDS” is a ”disease” decimating heterosexuals - the vast majority - whereas “American AIDS” is a “disease” that decimated homosexuals. Because they‘re not even describing the same thing!

Hilariously, the drug industry boasts of saving lives because homosexuals are not dying of AIDS so much anymore, and the industry claims this is because they’ve designed better and better designer drugs that prevent HIV from being a death sentence anymore. But all that happened is gays take some other, less lethal, drug now, whereas in the past they always went right on AZT if they got an HIV poz diagnosis, and quickly died from the lethality— AZT was a failed cancer fighting drug the industry smartly rebranded as an HIV fighting drug.

You can see some incisive reader reviews of Peter Duesberg’s book about the subject on Amazon:

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[OhHeyCindy]

Makes sense. So what is HIV then ? And what do we make of some countries like Venezuela seemingly having really high rates of HIV?

I haven’t heard of hoards of Venezuelans turning up dead from aids, but I have heard about high rates of hiv which the media have you believe is a death sentence untreated. What does a positive hiv test indicate ?