Viruses aren't contagious thread

Redcrosse

Kingfisher
Other Christian
Makes sense. So what is HIV then ? And what do we make of some countries like Venezuela seemingly having really high rates of HIV?

I haven’t heard of hoards of Venezuelans turning up dead from aids, but I have heard about high rates of hiv which the media have you believe is a death sentence untreated. What does a positive hiv test indicate ?
Molecular biologist Peter Duesberg originated the theory that HIV is not the cause of AIDS, but rather recreational drugs and anti-virals are the real culprit. HIV is rather a harmless “passenger virus,“ according to him. In this letter to the editor of The New York Review of Books from 1996, he offers a succinct, clear overview of what the evidence is for his explanation:

 

OhHeyCindy

Sparrow
Catholic
Molecular biologist Peter Duesberg originated the theory that HIV is not the cause of AIDS, but rather recreational drugs and anti-virals are the real culprit. HIV is rather a harmless “passenger virus,“ according to him. In this letter to the editor of The New York Review of Books from 1996, he offers a succinct, clear overview of what the evidence is for his explanation:

Tyvm reading now. So his basic thesis is that aids is caused by long term use of specific drugs. Do you know of any literature linking auto immune problems / aids to long term use of prescription drugs like adhd meds and ssris? Or is it more the harder stuff?
 

Redcrosse

Kingfisher
Other Christian
Tyvm reading now. So his basic thesis is that aids is caused by long term use of specific drugs. Do you know of any literature linking auto immune problems / aids to long term use of prescription drugs like adhd meds and ssris? Or is it more the harder stuff?
No, the thesis is that it’s strictly the harder stuff that causes the total breakdown of health. I don’t think ADHD drugs are completely safe, but the negative side effects aren’t connected to the AIDS mortality rates.

But the initial impetus for AIDS came from the fact that all these young gay men in places like San Francisco were hardcore users of one particular drug: amyl nitrite, also known as “poppers.” Now, apparently one of the main effects of using poppers is that it’s a relaxant that causes the anal sphincter to loosen and relax. It’s just ridiculous, once you learn all this stuff, how scientists refuse to put two and two together. Of course gay men would end up being the only population that used poppers incessantly, even in the face of deteriorating health — who the hell else would ever be the clientele for a drug like that besides the practitioners of anal sex?

Duesberg points out that poppers can trigger Karposi’s Sarcoma (google the pics if you want to be sick) even in people that are HIV negative. It’s so obvious that all these hideous symptoms are drug-related, but the medical establishment insists on attributing every symptom to a virus. There really is a Virus Cult that dominates all the thinking going on about human health.
 

andy dufresne

Pelican
Other Christian
Makes sense. So what is HIV then ? And what do we make of some countries like Venezuela seemingly having really high rates of HIV?

I haven’t heard of hoards of Venezuelans turning up dead from aids, but I have heard about high rates of hiv which the media have you believe is a death sentence untreated. What does a positive hiv test indicate ?

Please read the Kennedy book on that creep Fauci. It describes the AIDS scam (perpetuated by him) in complete detail including the odd fact that AIDS/HIV is diagnosed differently in different parts of the world. That book is a complete Red Pill on the US Medical system.
 

charliec12

 
Banned
Orthodox
Duesberg points out that poppers can trigger Karposi’s Sarcoma (google the pics if you want to be sick) even in people that are HIV negative. It’s so obvious that all these hideous symptoms are drug-related, but the medical establishment insists on attributing every symptom to a virus. There really is a Virus Cult that dominates all the thinking going on about human health.

I'm not sure if he's right about that. There's a strong correlation between KS and the anecdotal use of 'poppers' but that doesn't imply cause - all active gays 'on the scene' were using poppers, so the fact that all gay men diagnosed with KS used them isn't a big surprise. The more likely cause of KS, according to this Lancet article, is faecal-oral contact as the main route of transmission:

"We [] assessed social and demographic characteristics, including sexual behaviour, of 65 homosexual or bisexual men with AIDS from London. Sexual practices in which there was contact with partner's faeces before AIDS developed were the main determinants of Kaposi's sarcoma risk. Risk increased with frequency of insertive "rimming" (oral-anal contact): Kaposi's sarcoma developed in 18% of the men with AIDS who reported never having practised insertive rimming compared with 50% who practised it less than once a month, 73% between once a week and once a month, and 75% or more once a week"

Interesting that the disease seems to mainly affect the mouth and face

 
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