War and Masculine Ethics

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Quintus Curtius

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To me it's the height of chivalry to be able to treat an enemy at arms with respect. There are many examples of this in history...such as the relationship between Saladin and Richard the Lionhearted.

But in the modern age, it's sadly rare. One has a hard time imagining world leaders today treating their enemies with respect. But I think it does exist on the battlefield, in one form or another, in some situations.
 

Parzival

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To add something there, look just how people in the west treat foreigners in general. Beside all that SJW racist crap. Look how immigrants get threaten in other parts of the world. Be a low wage worker in China, or an Indian in Singapore at construction. A Filipino in Qatar. Those parts of the world have no concept of equal rights. So how they even can see an enemy with respect?
This is a complete western kind of thing, to honour the fallen enemy, in general.
 

EDantes

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Quintus Curtius said:
To me it's the height of chivalry to be able to treat an enemy at arms with respect. There are many examples of this in history...such as the relationship between Saladin and Richard the Lionhearted.

But in the modern age, it's sadly rare. One has a hard time imagining world leaders today treating their enemies with respect. But I think it does exist on the battlefield, in one form or another, in some situations.
My knowledge isn't superb but I believe there was more honor in war prior to the industrial revolution.

In a way I've heard "war" actually filled a void which modern professional sports do, it wasn't just about "killing the enemy" but a competative and bonding experience as well.

After the industrialization of war and the eventual invention of machinery such as drones, missiles, nuclear weapons, etc the soul got sucked out of war and it became simply about maximizing killing efficiency. I believe WWI and WWII played a big role in this when nations saw how much destructive power they could harness with technology.

I honestly see technology as having done more harm than good to societies in a lot of ways, and it's probably one of the biggest threats to masculinity really.

This is one of the reasons why we see a rise in "beta males" in industrialized nations, since men no longer have to hunt, have to fight, have to have male bonding - office jobs, fast food, automated transportation, video games, etc end up replacing traditional outlets for masculinity, androgenyzing the gender roles as a result.
 
Pfft, I think one of the reasons why depression is so high among males is because they are not living like men. Working in office jobs, marketing, administration, human resources, recruitment and whatever. Is soul destroying and too comfortable. I can't see how men can be fulfilled doing these types of jobs, they must only live for the weekend or the never ending pursuit for pussy.

Professions like military, law enforcement, the trades or perhaps self building enterprise schemes and high end finance jobs on the other hand I can get. Point Im trying to make to here, is that war and pursuing the military as a career is a venture which creates camaraderie, actual risk and character traits. It follows through with a purpose and then that leaves men to develop on ideas such as ethics and essentially having control over your life.
 
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