Was this guy just taken for a sucker?

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Lizard King

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pitt said:
The girls in my social group are all impressed with this story. I am seeing things from another perspective and thinking of the downside of altruism. I usually like to help people but I think this guy went over the top. Sacrificing his well being over the child of a slut. According to the pictures, the 15 year old boy looks like a cool kid but for fuck sake, I think this guy took the wrong decision.



Of course the women will say publicly what a nice man he is and how honourable he is for what he has done, the last thing they want is to be seen in a negative way.
 

Aristotle

 
Banned
Some of you are confused....

You seem to believe that a man can't be a good person who is compassionate, AND a beta sucker at the same time.

I assure you, you can be both a sucker, cuck, and beta, and still be a compassionate, honest, moral man.

Should this man be the butt of jokes and the subject of ridicule? No. But he shouldn't be admired either.

Recognize his mistakes, and don't put him on a pedestal anymore than you would a woman.

There's no doubt he's a "good" man, but there's also no doubt he's a loser in pragmatic terms.
 

The Beast1

Peacock
Orthodox Inquirer
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Guy did a good thing adopting an abandoned kid. While it's not his problem, the kid will surely do better with the guy than in the spanish orphanage/foster system.

However, the original solution to the problem is:

1. Don't date single mothers.

The only lesson one needs to know here.
 

CaptainS

Hummingbird
Lizard King said:
pitt said:
The girls in my social group are all impressed with this story. I am seeing things from another perspective and thinking of the downside of altruism. I usually like to help people but I think this guy went over the top. Sacrificing his well being over the child of a slut. According to the pictures, the 15 year old boy looks like a cool kid but for fuck sake, I think this guy took the wrong decision.



Of course the women will say publicly what a nice man he is and how honourable he is for what he has done, the last thing they want is to be seen in a negative way.

Also, while they would all praise him and say they wish there were more men like him - the dude they choose to fuck acts nothing like him.

They want to believe that men like this are all around, waiting to support them once old age kicks them off the carousel.
 

BlackFriar

 
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I would have to say that I am nottaking care of any one's kids. Now I will not fault the woman if she was a widow, or something like that. But I would not put up with this kinda crap in my own country. Let alone some bitch from another country.

Ain't my problem. Find some other jerk.
 

Papaya

Peacock
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Lizard King said:
pitt said:
The girls in my social group are all impressed with this story. I am seeing things from another perspective and thinking of the downside of altruism. I usually like to help people but I think this guy went over the top. Sacrificing his well being over the child of a slut. According to the pictures, the 15 year old boy looks like a cool kid but for fuck sake, I think this guy took the wrong decision.



Of course the women will say publicly what a nice man he is and how honourable he is for what he has done, the last thing they want is to be seen in a negative way.


Chicks "Awww that so sweet...what a special guy"

Poll taker "Would you fuck the guy?"

Chicks "A kind caring man is so sexy"

Chicks meeting him in real life "Ewww...he's creepy"
 

DarkTriad

Ostrich
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RIslander said:
Is compassion beta?

Discuss.

Sometimes yes, sometimes no. But if you know you are compassionate, you've got to take extra step to protect your heart. That means helping out single moms is really dangerous if you like kids and quickly bond with them.
 

DarkTriad

Ostrich
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PapayaTapper said:
Lizard King said:
pitt said:
The girls in my social group are all impressed with this story. I am seeing things from another perspective and thinking of the downside of altruism. I usually like to help people but I think this guy went over the top. Sacrificing his well being over the child of a slut. According to the pictures, the 15 year old boy looks like a cool kid but for fuck sake, I think this guy took the wrong decision.



Of course the women will say publicly what a nice man he is and how honourable he is for what he has done, the last thing they want is to be seen in a negative way.


Chicks "Awww that so sweet...what a special guy"

Poll taker "Would you fuck the guy?"

Chicks "A kind caring man is so sexy"

Chicks meeting him in real life "Ewww...he's creepy"

Don't be silly...if he's broke or underdeveloped from taking care of another man's spawn, he's simply invisible to them and they likely won't even have an opinion on "who?".
 

Onto

Ostrich
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DarkTriad said:
RIslander said:
Is compassion beta?

Discuss.

Sometimes yes, sometimes no. But if you know you are compassionate, you've got to take extra step to protect your heart. That means helping out single moms is really dangerous if you like kids and quickly bond with them.

This is very true, and to add....if you date a single Mom you shouldn't even meet the kids. Those kids will always be trying to win you over for their Mother. When the relationship with her ends and you're gone, the kids think it was their fault, that they did something wrong.

Children feel this way because they have an undeveloped sense they are the center of the Universe and everything that happens in it is a reaction to something they did.

Thus when they get older they are more likely to have problematic relationships. In short, they may unconsciously push people away or get involved with people who will leave them so they can affirm, "Hah! I knew they would just leave me."

So if you care about those kids heart's and future, don't meet them until about 2 weeks before the wedding.
 

EvanWilson

Kingfisher
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Questions on the situation:

1: Is the kid his child?

2: If the kid is not his, how is the kid allowed to stay in Spain legally?

3: Did the mother abandon her own son in Spain?
 

deerhunter

Sparrow
Gold Member
I wouldn't get myself in this guys spot but I cannot hate on him. He is raising a kid which is a good thing. The posters who say he is "beta" kind of crack me up. They seem to think that they are all hard. I picture people from that gay ass haircut video in Denmark when i read those comments. The guy who is raising the kid gave
up a lot but that was his call to make.
 

Tactician

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Protestant
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pitt said:
The girls in my social group are all impressed with this story.

"You're such a nice guy, I'm sure there's someone out there for you."

That said, if he's happy with the situation and isn't doing it because of social pressure then I'm happy for him and wish him and the kid the best.
 

pitt

Hummingbird
Gold Member
EvanWilson said:
Questions on the situation:

1: Is the kid his child?

2: If the kid is not his, how is the kid allowed to stay in Spain legally?

3: Did the mother abandon her own son in Spain?

1. That is not his kid of course, I am not even sure if you read the thread.

2. I don't know how they did it but once a child is in a country, its not that hard to make them legal, specially in Europe.

3. Actually the guy moved out first. Later, she didn't have money to pay for her rent and she was getting thrown out, she called this guy and told him about her situation, he said he could stay with her son till she fixes up her accommodation problems. He ended up staying with the kid till today.
 

Lizard King

Pelican
PapayaTapper said:
Lizard King said:
pitt said:
The girls in my social group are all impressed with this story. I am seeing things from another perspective and thinking of the downside of altruism. I usually like to help people but I think this guy went over the top. Sacrificing his well being over the child of a slut. According to the pictures, the 15 year old boy looks like a cool kid but for fuck sake, I think this guy took the wrong decision.



Of course the women will say publicly what a nice man he is and how honourable he is for what he has done, the last thing they want is to be seen in a negative way.


Chicks "Awww that so sweet...what a special guy"

Poll taker "Would you fuck the guy?"

Chicks "A kind caring man is so sexy"

Chicks meeting him in real life "Ewww...he's creepy"

It's not that he could be creepy, it's the other woman's child that they covertly get turned off by.

In nature another's young are often disregarded, or worse, when a new pairing takes place.

Human men have accepted the conditioning that tells them it's OK to raise another man's child.

Women on the other hand can barely hide their contempt.
 

EvanWilson

Kingfisher
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pitt said:
EvanWilson said:
Questions on the situation:

1: Is the kid his child?

2: If the kid is not his, how is the kid allowed to stay in Spain legally?

3: Did the mother abandon her own son in Spain?

1. That is not his kid of course, I am not even sure if you read the thread.

2. I don't know how they did it but once a child is in a country, its not that hard to make them legal, specially in Europe.

3. Actually the guy moved out first. Later, she didn't have money to pay for her rent and she was getting thrown out, she called this guy and told him about her situation, he said he could stay with her son till she fixes up her accommodation problems. He ended up staying with the kid till today.


1: I did read the thread, but was trying to clarify that what I understood, was correct, since it didn't make any sense to me as to why a mother, in this situation, would leave their son with someone they were not even seeing anymore. In my area, it would cause all kinds of problems taking care of a kid that was not yours or you did not have legal guardianship for, since you would not legally be able to make any decisions for the kid or act in place of a parent. Plus, what happens if the mother completely disappears and refuses to be found? How will he do anything for the kid then?

2: In the United States, unless there is a path to permanent residence for the mother, there would be no way the son would be able to legally stay within the country. While I did not think Spain was the same as the United States, I would expect that someone from another country wouldn't be allowed to leave their child in Spain without living with a parent.

3: It sounds like the mother really wanted some place to abandon her son. In this situation, the son should be placed with the closest relative in the blood line, not dumped off on someone that the mother happened to 'run into' over the years.
 

HectorLavoe

Woodpecker
A man in his prime that wifes up promiscuous single mothers and raises their children even after they bail signals that he does not value himself. The colombian girl is a degenerate loser and the signs were there from day one. The OP's friend was not made sucker, he already was one.
 

Splord

Robin
Gold Member
Yes, unfortunately he was taken big time.
He may be a good person, a good father, he may even have wanted the kid, however the sad fact remains that the columbian girl used him, she didn't want the kid and got rid of it to carry on riding the carousel.
The ironic thing will be if she returns in a few years wanting to come back together with the guy.
I hate to say it but he will probably take her back...
 

Moma

Peacock
Gold Member
The guy got played like a violin but it was a nice thing for him to do. Would I do it? At this point in my life, no, at least let me have the memory of cumming raw in the sloot if I'm to be so honourable..
 

Rawmeo

Pelican
Gold Member
Sucker. The woman was just looking for a dude to take the leftovers. Dating a single mom is like:

- Paying full price for a meal, giving it to the dude who bangs your wife, and eating the cold leftovers
- Taking the expired pint of milk to the counter and offering to pay triple for it
- And so on. You get the picture.

He should abandon him at the nearest police station and leave. It's not his kid, he's got nothing to do with some other dude's leftovers. Sad for the kid, but we have enough single moms in this world. How many opportunities did he miss with cute girls because of this bastard spawn... saddening.
 
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