Many white russians fled to germany after the revolution.I can't believe the narratives that Germany didn't want war. They wouldn't have invaded Russia if that was true.
You don't have any common sense at all.Because I have common sense.
There were countless Nazis that survived the war and not one of them said a anything about "editing".
But I guess you have another ludicrous explanation for that to.
Well, even though I’m new here—and when you’re new you’re not supposed to get into “political” debates with anyone—I think this might now qualify more in the area of “history”. Furthermore, I’m not trying to goad anyone into debate. If I do debate anyone on this history, expect it to be gentlemanly on my part.
At any rate, what convinced me of the authenticity of Suvorov’s “Icebreaker” was Ron Unz’s 4,200 word review of it, which you can find here: https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-when-stalin-almost-conquered-europe/?highlight=Suvorov
And as fair as Unz’s review is, if you find it to be not fair enough then there are 797 comments underneath to argue one side or the other.
And Unz is obviously not a “white supremacist”—he’s an agnostic Jew and libertarian. I have never seen him personally endorse anything that might qualify as a race-based 3rd position movement. He simply tries to be unemotionally objective in weighing historical evidence as he can, and generally succeeds—is both altogether thorough and accurate with available resources.
Nonetheless, once Hitler was well into Russia, then you get the silly stuff. The taking of the strategically useless Stalingrad, followed by the defense of it at any cost—followed by the rejection of every levelheaded argument to pull back once pulling back was absolutely vital to any shred of hope of saving the Third Reich from that point.
He had turned imperialist while in Russia. That’s the irony. In our (((western propaganda))) we make him out to be a monster imperialist from the beginning, doing our best to censor all arguments to the contrary. Yet just a modicum of research from the other side and you start see very convincing evidence that the Gleiwitz Incident was most likely exactly what Hitler said, with England and France using Poland as a proxy to generate a very predictable (and measured) response from Germany—then to react hysterically to that response.
And so no, he hadn’t been a monster from the beginning—and if what he said in Mein Kampf is to be taken seriously, and what he said in his speeches taken seriously, then Hitler was effectively a practicing Christian. More ecumenical than Catholic (he was raised Catholic), but very much Christian in his relationship to God and his fellow man.
Yet once he got into Russia then you start seeing ego and a will to inhumanely subjugate others—including his own troops. You see the Christian taking back his self-will, saying, “Enough with this ‘thy will be done’ prayer—my own will’s all I need.”
And that’s when you finally see the ruin come upon him.
And so was WWII necessary?
I’d say it was “evil, but inevitable”. Or if not “evil”—if not going so far as to give it a moral component—then simply call it “horrific but inevitable”. Horrific, unhallowed, ghastly—well the opposite of heaven, yet with nearly all the players involved having some belief in the rightness of their own cause, and all these forces having been set in motion well ahead of time.
The western powers were totally under the duress of the Rothschild/Rockefeller banking cartel (still are), and Hitler made it impossible for that cartel to continue operating through Germany—so, yes, they were going to war against him. And Stalin most likely would, as well.
Stalin was both politically and militarily savvy, but as far as being governed by anything besides his own self-will and nationalism, no, he wasn’t. He was ruthless—he had no god or Christ—nothing to internally stop him from striking Germany when the Wehrmacht was occupied on the other edges of the continent, then thrusting his own better-resourced and better-manned army into Berlin. There’s little reason to suspect he wasn’t pursuing this avenue, only to have Hitler get wise and beat him to the punch.
Such is my own dispassionate take on the matter. And again, I don’t offer this to antagonize anyone here—rather, merely state what I myself gradually came to believe, and why I believe it.
Well, you’ve fleshed-out something that I tend to play-down when I first present my argument. And what I mean is I actually perceive Hitler’s departure from actually being Christian taking place a lot sooner than late 1942—albeit not as soon as you apparently do.Unfortunately Hitler was not a practicing Christian at the time he was head of the The Third Reich. He was a Pantheist and Mein Kampf reveals this as well. Hitler like any good statesman capitalized on the faith of the people who were almost entirely Christian. Hence his pro Christian political moves and rhetoric. Which wound up working very well because he had the support of the Pope and most of Christian europe opposed to Jewish Capitalism and Jewish Communism dominating and creeping in slowly.
Hitler and many high ranking Nazi's were against Christianity behind closed doors. Some being into some really deep occult practices. The thesis that the Nazi's were obsessed with the occult is not true and yet not entirely false. But what I do know is that Himmler was blatantly and openly anti-christian. And wanted to destroy the Church when the war was over. A-lot of Nazi's viewed Christianity the same way as Nietzsche did.
Hitler is also quoted with saying things that very much against the church. See Goebbels Diaries. Hitler's Table Talks and several memoirs of people who were intimate with Hitler such as his personal valet, his chef, his photographer and lifelong friend etc. They all coincide with one another.
To prove this we need not look any further then the SS. The SS was the proto-type of the new German aristocracy and hierarchy and they had a magazine type of deal going on exclusively for SS members a sort of education program you can call it and It was deeply rooted in Pantheistic ideology in other words anti-christian ideology and the sort of Pagan Virtue of the ancients, such as the Greeks and Romans. Also the new education curriculum issued by Hitler to the Hitler Youth was rooted in the same, a move away from Christianity who the high ranking Nazi's viewed as destroying everything noble in humanity.
The Nazi vision at the end of the day was anti-christian. But infinitely better than the hell hole we are stuck in at the moment. The Jewification of society. The Nazi's were never intent on persecuting Christians as most of the people they ruled over were Christian, but sought to bring a natural death to the church via issuing new education programs and so on and so forth. And just directing the culture away from Christian and Semitic teachings. Hoping that people would just gradually drift away like they did with the old gods of the greeks and romans and bring the New man and The New faith in to the German people.
This is the very brief and concise version of it all. As World War 2 and The Nazi Party is such a deep topic plagued with misinfo misdirection and serious biases, it requires tremendous time, effort and discipline to understand the truth of it all. And is highly dependent on what lens you perform the investigation through.
But no, I don’t see that as his beliefs back in the 1920’s.
Invading Poland was a bad thing in the eyes of Poles. Invading Poland is always a bad thing—no matter which country does it or tries to do it.A few considerations:
1. World War II began when Germany invaded Poland in 1939, sparking Britain's entry into the war. However, this could have just been Hitler's attempt to unite western Poland's German speakers into a single German-speaking entity. This is not a bad thing per se.
2. Hitler had previously annexed sovereign nations like Austria and Czechoslovakia, and nobody cared.
3. The Holocaust began in 1942, well into the war. Before that, Jews were persecuted, but not to an extent that justified war -- a conclusion that the 1938 Evian conference upheld. The Nazis even offered the Jews money to settle in Palestine, but the Zionists refused this.
EDIT. Yes, the Nazis killed Jews prior to 1942, but not in a systematic or targeted way, and only in a manner that is unfortunately associated with war. They also killed Poles, Russians, gypsies, etc., but nobody bothered.
But for a while they tell us how IMPORTANT their ally was. Then they set fire to his monument.On the Poles killing Germans. These were (((communist))) Poles. They were also marching the Polish intelligentsia and dissidents out into forests for execution.
This was a theme all across Eastern Europe especially Russia. Christian places of worship destroyed, “Anti-semitism” outlawed and millions of Christians slaughtered.
It’s funny looking at that fat fuck degenerate sellout pig Churchill now.
The Shabbos goys legacy is even pissed on today by the Jews he sold his soul too. They mock and ridicule as their useful idiots pull down his statues. All the supplicant goy are just temporary whores for their cause.
You need to upgrade a bit your knowledge in history.
Japan had its good share of crimes, and no ones questions that but WW2 didn't start to stop the brutality or Japanese colonisation .
Japan started its actions since 1930s in Manchuria and no war started. The war started 6 years later in Europe against Germany.
And evan after that Japan entered war 2 and 3 months later.
Also the war against Germany didn't start because Hitler got drunk in his pan German dreams.
This is typical pan ignorant narrative most people have due to brainwashing for 75 years.
3rd Reich was the 1st state to denounce international jewry and create a debt free currency and system. That is the main reason.
And to push Germany into war, Jews triggered polish fools to kill and mistreat Germans in Poland for several months despite Hitler warnings.
Than churchill as a good goyim refused 20+ peace offers of Hitler and Stalin was preparing a mass invasion in 1941 which triggered the Barbarrossa operation as a response.
There is a good channel that shows why Germany lost WWII:
A lot of it is failure of logistics and Strategy. Even though they excelled at tactics.
Sort of. The gentleman that prepares the videos does have a passion for discovering correct history, but sometimes lets his "modern" liberal/capitalist education misguide him. For example, on one of his videos regarding the logistical failures of Germany, he went on a rant of sorts to persuade the viewer that if only Hitler's Germany had been a capitalist, "free market" society, their production and logistics would've been handled better. The issue there is that when you have very little to no natural resources of your own, and are essentially blockaded worldwide, a centralized war economy is the only path forward. At that point, it doesn't matter what the market price of Chromium is, when you have no Chromium whatsoever.
Centralized War economy is what the Soviet Union also had even after the War. And that was still a disaster even with rich natural resources.