"We need a male presence in the building"

[Fortis]

ummmm, so you're mad that they look at you as someone who could handle a situation, or at least stop a situation from developing. That's weird. isn't at least one point of being a man being the go-to guy? that said, if they're wasting your time, then I get it. Otherwise, you just sound a little silly complaining about them wanting a man to do the overnight.

 

[bish0p2004]

This is how my job is. I work with individuals with autism, who are intellectually disabled and the field is full of women. There are multiple group homes with 3 staff and 6 individuals at each house. Most of the individuals are male and all of them are aggressive most days and we have to hold them down to calm them down. Even more, they usually get more aggressive with the female staff.

So, whenever the girls can't handle them, they send male staff from other houses to take over. I always fuck with the women and tell them I thought they were supposed to be strong and independent women.

 

[Dr. Howard]

This is how my job is. I work with individuals with autism, who are intellectually disabled and the field is full of women. There are multiple group homes with 3 staff and 6 individuals at each house. Most of the individuals are male and all of them are aggressive most days and we have to hold them down to calm them down. Even more, they usually get more aggressive with the female staff.

So, whenever the girls can't handle them, they send male staff from other houses to take over. I always fuck with the women and tell them I thought they were supposed to be strong and independent women.

This is also something I've never understood. There should be a higher pay grade of orderly..like "orderly enforcer" or something along those lines....don't make the job gender based but makes its description one that is exposed to more violent clients, restraint and heavy lifting.

Sidenote, I dated this girl who worked as an orderly/nurse with disabled people and she had one of the most pefect asses...from lifting patients all day. She was getting paid to do squats.

 

[Enki]

Player principle #1: Watch not what a woman says, but what she does.

Feminists can blather on about their equality nonsense all they want, when the shit hits the fan, none of them is going to seek the protection of another frail woman. it's the arm of a sturdy male they'll be so willing to cling to.

Gender is merely a social construct. Yeah right! as if anyone is so fucked up as to genuinely believe this.

 

[redpillrage33]

Zaqan, wouldn't blame you if you quit. Nightshift sucks and you had moved up in the world.

Are you in a State with particularly aggressive human rights lawyers/tribunals? If so, on your way out the door you could make a complaint about the clearly sexist remark (we need a male presence) that led to your constructive dismissal from the company. It would probably at least progress to the investigation stage by one of our Human Rights Commissions here in the great white north (although I confess ignorance as to whether the same would be true in any of the States).

Black Knighting can be fun...

 

[CRR]

I worked in retail years ago (at an upscale mall) and I could barely stand it. Dominated by women and stuck up gay guys, it was emasculating. I decided to quit and do basic housework (painting, mowing lawns, etc.) just to get my masculinity back until I could get a job in my career (finance).

Not saying all retail work is feminine, just my experience. Point is the suggestion above to work in construction is a very good one. Or if one is going to work in retail, perhaps REI or Dick's Sporting Goods is the way to go.

 

[Tuthmosis]

"I need a female presence on this penis."

 

[Foolsgo1d]

Some of my most clear, fun moments was working the graveyard shift in a cinema with one other person and a manager.

If you're friendly with a girl you're working with and she likes you there is no better time to mess around than then. Granted you know where all the CCTV is but cinema screens offer good privacy.

 

[zaqan]

I forgot about this thread and didnt think anyone would reply.
The shifts kinda sucked. The woman junior manager who requested me to do the overnight is so childish, its ridiculous. You can just hear it in her voice and see it in her eyes. And when shes pissed off, she throws tantrums. But now I know how she operates and love messing with her. Anyway, I did it, and also threatened to quit. A short while later, I was tracked for a promotion. I really should quit, but I do like it here. I can get paid more in lots of places, but I really know this store well and can get away with so much. Ive built up a huge presence. A friend saw me there the other day and said I looked like I manage the place and am really comfortable. Im loathe to lose that confidence and zone/frame right now. Ill move on soon, but for now I think I should stay a bit more and continue to build job and game experience.

Some of my most clear, fun moments was working the graveyard shift in a cinema with one other person and a manager.

If you're friendly with a girl you're working with and she likes you there is no better time to mess around than then. Granted you know where all the CCTV is but cinema screens offer good privacy.

Incidentally, this actually happened to me. There was one girl on the overnight, kinda tough, but also kinda feminine when she wanted to. When I started, I took no interest in her and didnt want to get involved in a workplace relationship. Everyone else talked about how they wanted to get with her. To me, she was just there and I barely noticed her. Lo and behold, a year into it, she started poking and touching me. I caught on quick, but I had absolutely no idea what to do when that happened. I half-asked her out once and she made a stupid excuse. Later, I confronted her about it and she "friendzoned" me. And then went right back to her increasing assaults. Before long, she discovered I am ticklish. After one bout of that, I rammed her ass, and she giggled. Later, she said only her mom knows where she is ticklish, which I later realized might have been a ploy to touch her down below.

One night, the two other top guys werent there, so it was just her, me, and the juniors of the crew. I had to go do computer training in the office, and she stayed to watch and started drawing on me and then took away and teased me with the hand sanitizer. I ended up basically on top of her and it didnt even occur to me to do anything. Tried asking her a few more times, she got another job, and being rebuffed again and "friendzoned", I just told her she was a liar and to go to hell basically. Never felt better after a romance/sexual experience.

I know now what shouldve happened in that office, but I was so naive and unprepared. I think I was just starting to "wake up" then and a few weeks later took the red pill as it were. I had so much feminist brainwashing that I didnt know a girl might want to be thrown against a wall in the backroom and destroyed, so to speak. Sigh. Well, it was a learning experience and that wont happen again. *wink*

 

[Suits]

I forgot about this thread and didnt think anyone would reply.
The shifts kinda sucked. The woman junior manager who requested me to do the overnight is so childish, its ridiculous. You can just hear it in her voice and see it in her eyes. And when shes pissed off, she throws tantrums. But now I know how she operates and love messing with her. Anyway, I did it, and also threatened to quit. A short while later, I was tracked for a promotion. I really should quit, but I do like it here. I can get paid more in lots of places, but I really know this store well and can get away with so much. Ive built up a huge presence. A friend saw me there the other day and said I looked like I manage the place and am really comfortable. Im loathe to lose that confidence and zone/frame right now. Ill move on soon, but for now I think I should stay a bit more and continue to build job and game experience.

If you are #winning as it were, there is no reason to move on. However, I think that we can all agree that you don't want to be working retail in five years. The real question is, how can this paycheck and job be exploited to get you what you really want?

Some of my most clear, fun moments was working the graveyard shift in a cinema with one other person and a manager.

If you're friendly with a girl you're working with and she likes you there is no better time to mess around than then. Granted you know where all the CCTV is but cinema screens offer good privacy.

Incidentally, this actually happened to me. There was one girl on the overnight, kinda tough, but also kinda feminine when she wanted to. When I started, I took no interest in her and didnt want to get involved in a workplace relationship. Everyone else talked about how they wanted to get with her. To me, she was just there and I barely noticed her. Lo and behold, a year into it, she started poking and touching me. I caught on quick, but I had absolutely no idea what to do when that happened. I half-asked her out once and she made a stupid excuse. Later, I confronted her about it and she "friendzoned" me. And then went right back to her increasing assaults. Before long, she discovered I am ticklish. After one bout of that, I rammed her ass, and she giggled. Later, she said only her mom knows where she is ticklish, which I later realized might have been a ploy to touch her down below.

One night, the two other top guys werent there, so it was just her, me, and the juniors of the crew. I had to go do computer training in the office, and she stayed to watch and started drawing on me and then took away and teased me with the hand sanitizer. I ended up basically on top of her and it didnt even occur to me to do anything. Tried asking her a few more times, she got another job, and being rebuffed again and "friendzoned", I just told her she was a liar and to go to hell basically. Never felt better after a romance/sexual experience.

I know now what shouldve happened in that office, but I was so naive and unprepared. I think I was just starting to "wake up" then and a few weeks later took the red pill as it were. I had so much feminist brainwashing that I didnt know a girl might want to be thrown against a wall in the backroom and destroyed, so to speak. Sigh. Well, it was a learning experience and that wont happen again. *wink*

Ya, she definitely wanted to be banged. I've found that "asking out" girls has a tendency to be a losing strategy. It downgrades your value and puts the reigns in her hands, something that turns women off.

Women with a domination fantasy do not want to be engaged by a rational discussion on the merits of a relationship.

You get major man points for just reaching out and taking what you want and that is the type of man they are looking for.

On a related noted, I find that the "three second pause" is a safe bet if you are with a coworker or another high liability woman.

If she's tickling you and you are playfighting or are getting close for any other "suspicious" reason, get your face about three inches from hers and look into her eyes. If she doesn't look away, brush her hair behind her ear and kiss her.

This gives her time to back out (three seconds is a long time when you are eye to eye), but never specifically invites her to shoot you down.

When we are talking about girls that you don't work with and don't represent a real liability, especially in cases where failure to escalate to at least a kiss will lead to either never seeing her again or a series of dates that just waste your time, just kiss her no matter what.

If you've already had your arm around her or held hands, you are practically obligated to try to lock lips, even if at the moment of truth, she looks away or doesn't kiss back right away.

I've had shy girls where I literally had to grab their chin and move it to the correct angle, but once my lips were on theirs, there was no going back and they absolutely wanted my tongue in their mouths.

By the second or third date you haven't kissed a girl, you're beginning to waste your own time, so at that point if a girl rejects your efforts to kiss her, she's actually doing you a favour because it'll give you ever reason to use your time to track down women who aren't just pulling your chain.

 

[Mage]

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[zaqan]

If you are #winning as it were, there is no reason to move on. However, I think that we can all agree that you don't want to be working retail in five years. The real question is, how can this paycheck and job be exploited to get you what you really want?

Quite right. I expect to have started my own business of some sort, or be a step closer to my loose dream of buying some land and living off of it. I have been thinking about leaving this dump for a year. My first opportunity would have been going to the same place the girl I mentioned went to. I determined that was asking for trouble. Later, I wanted to leave and move out of state, but then we switched to day shift. Finally, I considered it again when I wasnt getting what I wanted, but I ended up convincing myself to just hold out a bit more for the resume booster. Now, I have it, so Ill stick it out another few months, and then go somewhere else, with much more experience and insight. Asking myself What do I want? has been very helpful.

Ya, she definitely wanted to be banged. I've found that "asking out" girls has a tendency to be a losing strategy. It downgrades your value and puts the reigns in her hands, something that turns women off.

Women with a domination fantasy do not want to be engaged by a rational discussion on the merits of a relationship.

You get major man points for just reaching out and taking what you want and that is the type of man they are looking for.

If theres any proof I was still blue and thought women were at least somewhat rational and traditional ideas still worked, that was it. It just never occurred to me to throw her against a wall. And considering the fiction she reads, I realize now how much she must have fantasized and how much she was let down.

On a related noted, I find that the "three second pause" is a safe bet if you are with a coworker or another high liability woman.

If she's tickling you and you are playfighting or are getting close for any other "suspicious" reason, get your face about three inches from hers and look into her eyes. If she doesn't look away, brush her hair behind her ear and kiss her.

This gives her time to back out (three seconds is a long time when you are eye to eye), but never specifically invites her to shoot you down.

When we are talking about girls that you don't work with and don't represent a real liability, especially in cases where failure to escalate to at least a kiss will lead to either never seeing her again or a series of dates that just waste your time, just kiss her no matter what.

If you've already had your arm around her or held hands, you are practically obligated to try to lock lips, even if at the moment of truth, she looks away or doesn't kiss back right away.

I've had shy girls where I literally had to grab their chin and move it to the correct angle, but once my lips were on theirs, there was no going back and they absolutely wanted my tongue in their mouths.

By the second or third date you haven't kissed a girl, you're beginning to waste your own time, so at that point if a girl rejects your efforts to kiss her, she's actually doing you a favour because it'll give you ever reason to use your time to track down women who aren't just pulling your chain.

It took me one or two more screwups after her to finally realize the traditional approach is a load of hogwash. Another girl Id known for awhile (we almost got together a few years ago, but life pulled us apart), a few weeks after the above, we were messaging and she was basically begging me to come over. She hadnt seen her boyfriend in two weeks. It didnt even occur to me to drop everything and run over. I thought "oh lets meet up next week". Didnt happen; boyfriend finally came thru. We have been so well trained to be docile and unmasculine: that its wrong to want to grab a girl and trash her. Even thinking about it, I can still feel the brainwashing, that its rapey to do this. And then they all complain when men wont do it.

Well, I know for next time!

PS: Its been almost a year and Ive seen indirect signs she still likes me (and having female friends, and reading tinder, I know they can hold onto feelings for as long as us), so Ive wanted to arrange for us to be thrown together again, so I can finish the job. I cant tell if this is oneitis, altho Ive definitely ruled out anything serious with her because she wouldnt give me anything I could work with (to my knowledge at the time), and shes not what I want for a LTR anyway. There are others on my mind. So maybe its not, but I cant shake that feeling that Im a little stuck on her, even if evidence proves otherwise. We have mutual friends, so I can arrange for an 'outing', where we can wander off and get to business, but I am not sure if I should.

 

[Sebastian]

You obviously need someone to listen to you.
(You know even your best friend cant handle those amount of detailed complaints?)

I dont know if this forum is for that....

 

[Suits]

You obviously need someone to listen to you.
(You know even your best friend cant handle those amount of detailed complaints?)

I dont know if this forum is for that....

This is exactly what this forum should be for.

My only issue is with the dudes who get stuck in a rut and refuse to accept any of the advice they receive.

If we can't offer support to guys who need advice and are making every effort to takes step forward, what value does this forum actually have?

 

[Sebastian]

Asking constructive advices in a proper manner? then yes.

But just bitching for sake of bitching? No

You obviously need someone to listen to you.
(You know even your best friend cant handle those amount of detailed complaints?)

I dont know if this forum is for that....

This is exactly what this forum should be for.

My only issue is with the dudes who get stuck in a rut and refuse to accept any of the advice they receive.

If we can't offer support to guys who need advice and are making every effort to takes step forward, what value does this forum actually have?

 

[zaqan]

I wasnt bitching. I was mocking it all. I was a bit pissed off at the whole thing and that statement just made it all the more comical.

Being stuck in a rut sucks. Thats how I ended up in this job in the first place. Now I am in a much better place in life and looking out for something, but until then, this place is ok and works for me (usually). RoK and RVF definitely have helped reinforce and build new positive and upward looking thought patterns for me. So many concepts I would not have thought of if not for here.

We all need someone to listen to us. Its like the Bill Withers song.