Were you more left wing when you were younger?

[The Man w/ the Golden Gun]

Pre-Red Pill:

Wouldn't outright say that I was Democrat, but whenever someone turned out to be Republican, I'd be like "whaaaaaaat?"

Used to think that feminism and gay pride things were good, mostly because everyone else around me did. After all, "equal rights" and "love wins" sounds good, right? Most people aren't against "equal rights" and love. As well as "common sense" gun control (thanks obama...)

After all, they told me "I was on the right side of history!"

Post red-pill:

Make America Great Again!

now I really am on the right side of history.

 

[Rush87]

Most people will be. It's drummed into to the education system.

It's not just the education system. It's the art world. The music world.

They've even tried making it the status quo in the STEM fields, but that is proving a bit more difficult. It's easier to hide inadequacies in fields like art/music, than it is in applied mechanics.

Today it's worse with social media, smart phones and the like, so left wing art, news, and music spreads more rapidly. I got out of high school in 2003, so I was right on that tipping point where things were starting to get out of hand. Feminism and gay rights were relatively unknown terms for me until after high school.

 

[griffinmill]

I'm still very left-leaning. I'm opposed to imperialist wars, and very proud of the socialised medical care we have here in the UK, though it's not perfect. I think it's only right and proper that every citizen has access to healthcare. If they don't like the service, they can go private. But at least that safety net is there. "Free" education should also be a right. I'd rather my taxes were used more constructively than bombing villages in the middle east. Gay marriage should be legal simply because I do not believe it to be a moral transgression. Society has worse issues at stake. I'm against the death penalty. Abortion is still too complex an issue to have made a definitive moral stance. Economic inequality is a serious issue the Left is right to focus on.

What I hate about the Left is its fascistic tendencies. It has become hyper-critical of alternative views, is based more on emotion than logic, and is becoming increasingly intrusive about the words and language we use. SJWs and feminist ideology are dangerous self-victimisation tools, and the green-haired millennial mob will gladly see the destruction of western society. I'm opposed to third world migrants entertering the UK. While I like the NHS, the welfare state in the UK is exploited. My taxes pay poor people to breed, and there are some people who never work, because they simply make enough on the dole. While I agree with Ayn Rand somewhat, I like the idea of a welfare state in principle

I think it's good to have a mixture of left and right wing views.

 

[cubanlinx]

I'm 20 now. I've never been leftist. My country's still quite traditional, even though bullshit has started to permeate the younger generation.
I was always a contrast, an outsider. Only in the way I thought and spoke. Not a social outcast.
I've always seen lefty ideas as a steaming pile of shit. And I've always let people know about it. Not once did I find the ideas here hard to digest, even the ones about Muslims.

 

[8ball]

It's not just the education system. It's the art world. The music world.

They've even tried making it the status quo in the STEM fields, but that is proving a bit more difficult. It's easier to hide inadequacies in fields like art/music, than it is in applied mechanics.

It is just the education system, artists are mostly whores that follow whatever is trending in their time. Education system breeds tumor infected leftists so the artist has to make bank. Remember to be a good artist your narcissist levels have to break the ceiling. Once you understand that embracing the crazies seems natural for them. Once our counter culture really takes off, you will see artists pretending to be all non-pc to get attention. Some of them already have.

 

[Que enspastic]

I don't really believe in Left and Right as labels. I subscribe more to an economic understanding of the world framed in a globalist vs nationalist dichotomy. Probably an extension of the ideas of Marx, Francis Fukuyama and Adam Smith.

I think Zero Hedge is right to identify just how powerful the elites are relative to the unwashed masses and I see all political history primarily from the perspective of societal elites and powerful, irresistible economic forces.

 

[Que enspastic]

I guess when I was younger I cared more about identities, justice, race, the environment, all the things that don't really matter in the grand scheme of things

 

[Horus]

I barely recognise the man I was ten years ago. My ideas on culture, nationalism, feminism, equality and so many other issues have completely changed. The man I am now would have hated the man I have become.

Some of my ideas have gradually evolved over time, and I expect them to continue evolving. Some have changed instantly as a result of my experiences, where things I was supposed to believe and was taught to believe simply didn't make any sense.

Here's one example. I believed that abortion was a basic right. I believed that women should have control of their reproductive capacity. And for a young man with little world experience, this wouldn't be an unreasonably position to take. So when I got a girl pregnant in my early 20s, it didn't seem like a big deal. We stalled for a while, but eventually came to the mutual decision to visit a clinic. It was an extremely easy process - the procedure was done the morning after our initial consultation and it wasn't expensive. I was the only man accompanying his girl in the waiting room, but I was astounded how many young women there were. It was like a factory. After the procedure, all I could feel was a huge sense of relief, as I didn't think I was in any position to be a father.

And then overnight, her whole personality changed. She went from being a pleasant, joyful girl to being a moody bitch. I remember waking up in the middle of the night on multiple occasions to the sound of her uncontrollable sobbing. The relationship didn't last much longer, and we didn't really discuss her abortion. But she had become a broken person, and the only change in her life was that she had literally had life sucked from her body.

It's very well to discuss the virtues of abortion when it's not something you have experienced first hand. For the women who have aborted their child and say they are fine with it, I believe they are either lying or are a small minority. After seeing first hand how this simple medical procedure caused the emotional destruction of an otherwise good woman, it's hard not to recognise this as a bad thing. I believe that a majority of women who go through with an abortion will never be the same again. I often wonder what my life would be like if we kept the baby, and I did the respectable thing of marrying her.

I can pinpoint this experience as the first jolt which led me down the path to becoming the man I am today.

 

[Tytalus]

I identified with the Canadian Alliance Reform Party back when I was old enough to start understanding what was going on. There was a general distrust of the liberals in the west growing up that kinda soaked into my bones. That said, I had many leftish beliefs now that are positively mild. I used to believe in abortion as a right for women, that went out the window after my college GF had an abortion as a way to dump me. That said - I don't think making illegal abortion is the solution either, as back in the day when that was the case, girls were just getting butchered by back ally quacks.

I used to naively think feminism was about genuine equality with men and women, and not being a dick to a woman just because of her gender, that kind of... simple thinking. Now I know better.

 

[R_Niko]

I used to admire the writings of Che Guevara. Seriously, I thought the motorcycle diaries was pretty sweet. And I still kinda do, it's a good book. But yeah fuck that guy, he was a murderer and a racist homophobe. Does not deserve to be deified.

I've always been against political correctness, mainly because of my cunty elementary school teachers punishing me for having a dick.

 

[Samuel Konkin III]

The left vs. right dichotomy is rather vague and useless frankly.

I loathe, LOATHE, social conservatives who'd force their superstitious puritanism on the rest of us. They're every bit as bad as the SJWs.

As far as economic policy, I'm libertarian/anarchist. I hold firmly to the belief that the free market can provide any service better than the government. Nobody has ever been able to show me an example to the contrary.

The recent trend is nationalism ala Trump or Bernie, each with their own twist on it. I like Trump if anything for his lack of PCness, but he is a bit of an egomaniac. It wouldn't be a stretch to imagine the federal government becoming even more monstrous under his reign.

 

[britchard]

I have always thought for myself, unlike a large number of people on my generation. I'm young enough to have been treated badly in the education system just for having a penis, so I've always been anti- PC.

My views are actaully quote varied, and whilst I want Trump to win the presidency, I wouldn't really say all of my ideas are in line with his.

Also, it needs to be pointed out (I think some guys may have already done this) that pre 2008, pre Obama, pre Global economic crash, there was a very different mood and feeling in the West. I wasn't even a teenager then, but I can remember it.

There was nowhere near as much fear of terrorism as there is now. There was nowhere near as much 'hate-mobbing' of people who had different opinions. There was more optimism in the air, and PC madness hadn't fully kicked in.

In the US, the idea of gay marriage being legalised wasn't even on the radar in 2008. There was no political action over not letting trannies use certain bathrooms.

Imagine yourself in 2008 thinking about the current political climate, you'd think it's mad.

 

[Sean]

Yes, very much so. Kind of unavoidable if you're part of the Canadian public school system. I used to be seriously beta. Even one of those "I have no say if chicks have an abortion with my kid and I"m okay with that" types.

There are days I wish I could punch old me.

 

[Khan]

I have to admit, when I first got interested in politics and the world around me, at the age of 14-15, I had liberal political leanings. Not anything SJW or the like, I just thought conservatives were stupid idiots and the new Croatian leftist government is going to turn us into a new Switzerland.

That phase lasted for 2, maybe three years. Then I made a 180 degree turn and converted into a staunch right-wing nut-job who supported fringe political parties of the right. That phase didn't last past the age of 20. Somewhere around that time I began a long journey of self-discovery, in which I passed though several phases until I discovered neomasculinity and settled where I am now. I still am a right wing nut-job in many ways, but my views on many issues are not so black and white anymore.

 

[Glaucon]

No, I was always a shitlord.

 

[eskimobobseal]

I've never been left-wing. I've been raised by an old-school alpha male provider who is just as opinionated and tough as Trump, but also loving. I also have a feminine, wonderful mother. Those of us who were fortunate enough to be raised by Real Men, by definition, can't be liberal cucks. A man that has a masculine father that teaches him how to respect himself first would never allow his son to become a liberal.

If anything, the longer I've been on this planet, the more disdain I have for liberals in general. They celebrate all that is ugly, evil and vain. A pox on all of them. I hope that Trump and all other right-leaning leaders of men in Europe start finding their balls and fighting back. I've already become more opinionated in my social circle and don't care if it alienates the liberals. They were never open-minded anyways. I'm using my outspoken conservatism as an unapologetic way to screen for wife-worthy women. Not to mention, conservative chicks are far better looking than liberal lesbianic types.

Conservative women for the win:

http://thefederalist.com/2016/04/22/why-conservative-women-are-so-pretty/

Tate from Breitbart Texas. If she isn't wife'd up already, I'm sure some fine Texas gentleman wouldn't mind gaming her.

It is incredible how different conservative women and liberal women look, the conservatives are almost always prettier, more feminine, longer hair, cleaner skin, more fit and about 600x more tolerable in all aspects than leftists.

I blame strong families and good (heterosexual) parents, concepts that aren't necessarily anchors of the progressive movement.

 

[infowarrior1]

I always like documentaries on science and history for some reason. And I was an avid believer in leftism until the book by Neil Strauss called "The Game'' which served as a gateway drug into the Manosphere was a pretty MRA in my position and then into the Dark Enlightenment.

Started with sex and ended up changing me 180 degrees from leftoid to reactionary. I think my pursuit of True Christianity also helped in this endeavor. And many passages I found that were bigoted and sexist or archaic started to make sense after I took the Red Pill.

 

[Chargeshot]

Nah, from the first time I could vote I was Conservative here in Canada. To be fair/honest though it was only because the Cons were promising to boost military funding and I was in the military at the time. Beyond that I was very uninformed about the election/issues. After I finished my stint I became much more interested in politics and have no desire to vote left or Liberal.

 

[Saweeep]

As a young teenager my ultimate fantasy was being a "Global, Benevolent but Harsh Dictator".

I've got less right wing as I've aged!

 

[therealpoder]

Most people will be. It's drummed into to the education system.

It's not just the education system. It's the art world. The music world.

They've even tried making it the status quo in the STEM fields, but that is proving a bit more difficult. It's easier to hide inadequacies in fields like art/music, than it is in applied mechanics.

Thomas Sowell makes the point that the left dominates in disciplines where ideas don't have to work to survive, such as the liberal arts: http://www.forbes.com/forbes/1997/0908/6005128a.html

Bryan Caplan points out too that the left are heavily represented in the liberal arts but largely absent in the science: http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/2015/03/the_prevalence_1.html

I think it is to be expected that young people are more likely to be liberal for biological and social reasons.

Biologically, young people tend to be more idealistic, more anti authority and less capable or long term thinking or thinking about incentives and trade offs.

Social reasons are public school teachers are more likely to be liberal and they instill liberalism into children. Also, popular culture is liberal so liberalism is considered "cool".

People don't become more conservative until they are older because then they actually have to live in the world that liberals created.