What are some "normie" friendly resources for helping someone understand why men are struggling in society?

4600_fan

Pigeon
Orthodox
What are you trying to explain to him?

Frankly I think a lot of people make it too difficult. It's simple. Find a woman who you are sexually attracted to AND isn't a fucking mess. And by not a fucking mess, I mean one who has faith and isn't a walking existential wreck. Don't bother looking IRL, you'll need to use GOOD online Christian dating sites or forums like these (where I met my wife). Maybe Church, if you go to a based church. However you'll probably have to go online.

Once you find this person, get engaged immediately and marry within 6 months. Don't have sex before marriage. Have kids right away.

The problem is so many people over think it, or mix half Christian ideas with half Modernist/atheistic ideals to create their own little "personal philosophy" which is a mess.
 

Viktor Zeegelaar

Pelican
Orthodox Inquirer
Forget normie red-pill light sources. Send him down the rabbit hole like we did, making him see whole reality and going through a pressure ridden, purifying trip to see reality as it is. If he doesn't want that, fine, stay in la-la land. You can't force someone to do it, the horse has to drink the water after you brought it to the river. Good way to start would be to introduce him to Roosh' older Roosh Hours.
 

Lazuli Waves

Woodpecker
What are you trying to explain to him?

Frankly I think a lot of people make it too difficult. It's simple. Find a woman who you are sexually attracted to AND isn't a fucking mess. And by not a fucking mess, I mean one who has faith and isn't a walking existential wreck. Don't bother looking IRL, you'll need to use GOOD online Christian dating sites or forums like these (where I met my wife). Maybe Church, if you go to a based church. However you'll probably have to go online.

Once you find this person, get engaged immediately and marry within 6 months. Don't have sex before marriage. Have kids right away.

The problem is so many people over think it, or mix half Christian ideas with half Modernist/atheistic ideals to create their own little "personal philosophy" which is a mess.
He's an older married professor who has been talking about his publicly. For explanation, I'm thinking more about why things have changed.

 

Salocin

Woodpecker
He must find a Christian woman who will allow him to lead. Feminism is an automatic disqualifier. Feminist = Cultural Marxist = "Woke". Woman's "rights" and social "justice" will be her religion.

He must be worthy to follow, though.

He must pray constantly, and read the bible. He must find a church. He must work hard to support his family, and submit to the will of the Lord.
 
Warren Farrell maybe?
Ed Dutton also mentioned the book Man Disconnected in a recent video. If your friend is an academic looking for answers then Dutton is exactly that.
Dr. Warren Farrell and his resources are a great component in gaining knowledge about some of the broader dynamics in men and boys. I strongly recommend his book he did with Dr. John Gray. It's called The Boy Crisis. Find my book review on it on YT by my name.

I'm going to share another couple of resources here that's helped me in my perspectives, because I believe it does have to do with starting with the self first. You need to improving yourself mentally, physically, spiritually, and while it seems counter-intuitive, financially. When I say "financially", one may think it immediately conflicts with spirituality. I don't think they're mutually exclusive, but rather, has do more so with the utility in having more established financial means because its implications are significant in the dating world. You may be Ghandi, but if you're working at minimum wage, good luck finding a woman and keeping her.

I recommend listening to Jordan Peterson's lectures, particularly on Pinnochio, The Lion King, Maps of Meaning, and especially, on the Phenomenology of the Divine. I know there's a lot of consternation about him being a shill or gatekeeper, but disregard that. Listen to his material first, then draw your own conclusions. If you still come to that conclusion, fine, but I know people, men, or young adults still struggling to become one, will benefit from that knowledge. It's free! You have nothing to lose by listening, and learning to his work. I also recommend Elisha Long's channel on YT, as he also talks about mens issues in a positive way that helps inspire, and are often relatable.

The last person I recommend listening to, for real world dating dynamics, marriage, finances, while being savvy about it is Coach Greg Adams. Start with his early stuff you can find on Spotify, the Bounce It Back Podcast, and work your way up. Choose by topic if you want.

At minimum, instead of focusing on women, understand that they're secondary to your personal success as an individual. Tell the normie, who wants to listen, to rearrange his perspective, and channel his passions for them into the productive. Tell him it won't be easy, it's going to be hard, and it's going to take time directly proportional to how much you have to learn and gain. But, by virtue of improving yourself mentally (read history, philosophy, psychology), physically (Work out. Make sure that normie is lifting routinely), better diet habits (Is he taking a multivitamin? A fish oil? Eating kimchi for excellent gut health? does he know about these things?), spiritually (Is this normie a heathen? Show him the way out of that gradually if he will listen, but don't push it), and financially (Is he growing professionally or just being lazy working to get a minimum pay rate? Has he thought about making his own business and breaking out of the wagie matrix? does he know these things are possible?) ---by working at these things women will take notice and will come to him and suddenly he'll be the one to discern over them. Emphasize that it for sure, will not be easy. But that's ok, because if that normie is still with you, he'll come to understand that it must be hard for him to grow, and suddenly, the normie within him will erode, and he will, in time, with dedication, become more of a man with opportunity around in more ways than just with women.

It also helps to have the normie work towards reducing and eliminating his vices. Limit the video games, limit the porn to zero, limit the drinking, take it easy with the weed. The normie needs to understand these things are more like chains, and the more he breaks free, the better he'll be. But yeah, no, it can be hard and there can be setbacks. I know, because I'm living it. That's another thing, if you're this normie's friend, then lead by example. Show him it can be done, and push him that way too. Yes, push him! Our inclination is otherwise to be satisfied with a mediocre state of affairs and if there's no positive male influence around him to help him, then the normie will struggle with maintaining order.

See how it goes, and go from there.
 

The Beast1

Peacock
Gold Member
It starts in school and is death by a thousand cuts. Our young boys are educated by mostly childless, former sluts who hate boys that have any sort of energy. Deep down they know that those boys will grow up to pump and dump girls like then in the future.

So, they fill their heads with lies, poison, and (if they can) pharma drugs to neuter their budding masculinity. Not to mention trash curriculum.

As always homeschool, homeschool, homeschool. If you can at least educate your kid to read, write, and do basic maths there are an incredible TON of online cyber schools now where the curriculum is self driven and avoids teachers like I wrote above.

At least previously lost boys could seek fulfillment in the armed forces. Now that's pozzed too.

Boys like this end up becoming dregs, bitter, and angry. An ideal fighting force for commies.
 
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