What are you doing to escape the rat-race?

A recurring theme among many my age/ cohort is becoming frustrated with the state of things. Despite this, numerous guys are living, by all accounts, normal lives for the most part.

What are you guys doing to exit the social-political control matrix?

Me:
Watch all media on streaming sites for free
No TV
No food with harmful hormones
Bought normie looking car with cash (no car payment)
No social media
Cell phone bought with cash, as well as current number
Hunting dog for protection
No beer--only spirits
Use nicotine as drug of choice
Take jobs with low barriers to entry to avoid intrusive HR departments
-Hide cash accordingly
Avoid red-pill and related subjects with all but closest friends
 

ScrapperTL

Woodpecker
In my state (PNW region) skilled mechanics can name their price and walk away from a bad deal, without any concern for financial stability.
More specifically, there is an extreme shortage of versatile tradesmen.
If you can half decently weld, know enough to troubleshoot electrical problems, the basics of carpentry, some plumbing and how to follow a manual to dissemble carburetors, engines, generators, etc... you can easily clear $150,000 a year out here and will never have to put up with any females while your on the clock.

All these “jack of all tradesmen” are retiring or retired.
Companies are now paying 5 salaries for “specialists” (journeyman: welder, electrical engineer, carpenter, plumber and auto tech)
When 1 old timer use to know how to do all of that themself.

I thought my generation (gen x) was lacking but the millennials are completely devoid of any self reliance and mechanical aptitude.

If you want to call the shots and feel genuine pride from your work, join a paid apprenticeship.
 

kel

Pelican
I don't see myself becoming one of those things professionally, but I'd love to do a sort of apprenticeship to learn some of those skills. I'm pretty handy in general, but a week of on-the-job electrical or plumbing work is enough to give the average person everything they're likely to need in that domain for the rest of their life.
 

myrica

Pigeon
ScrapperTL said:
In my state (PNW region) skilled mechanics can name their price and walk away from a bad deal, without any concern for financial stability.
More specifically, there is an extreme shortage of versatile tradesmen.
If you can half decently weld, know enough to troubleshoot electrical problems, the basics of carpentry, some plumbing and how to follow a manual to dissemble carburetors, engines, generators, etc... you can easily clear $150,000 a year out here and will never have to put up with any females while your on the clock.

All these “jack of all tradesmen” are retiring or retired.
Companies are now paying 5 salaries for “specialists” (journeyman: welder, electrical engineer, carpenter, plumber and auto tech)
When 1 old timer use to know how to do all of that themself.

I thought my generation (gen x) was lacking but the millennials are completely devoid of any self reliance and mechanical aptitude.

If you want to call the shots and feel genuine pride from your work, join a paid apprenticeship.
%200 correct.
 
Travola said:
A recurring theme among many my age/ cohort is becoming frustrated with the state of things. Despite this, numerous guys are living, by all accounts, normal lives for the most part.

What are you guys doing to exit the social-political control matrix?

Me:
Watch all media on streaming sites for free
No TV
No food with harmful hormones
Bought normie looking car with cash (no car payment)
No social media
Cell phone bought with cash, as well as current number
Hunting dog for protection
No beer--only spirits
Use nicotine as drug of choice
Take jobs with low barriers to entry to avoid intrusive HR departments
-Hide cash accordingly
Avoid red-pill and related subjects with all but closest friends
I'm doing a lot of the same stuff you're doing, although I avoid alcohol and nicotine consumption.

One thing that's very helpful is to have no debt. I'm debt-free -- never really been in debt, because I make sure I don't buy things I don't need.

What I'm focusing on right now is starting an online business that I can run from anywhere in the world. Eventually, I plan to live solely on the income from that business. Bold and Determined (http://boldanddetermined.com) has been very inspirational in this regard.

I'm also trying to cut down on surfing the Internet and playing video games -- both are just a waste of time that could be better used for more productive things.
 
Already done:

No (((apple products))) in my dwellings.
No soy, or sugar (barring fruits).
No porn.
No gays in my peripheral social circle.
No libtards or SJW who know me by name or where I live.
No acquiescing to NWO types.
No hanging around low-hanging fruit. I don't think God wants us spending time and energy on those who cannot help themselves.
No debt to any (((banks))). Better off owning a vehicle and renting a place than paying a mortgage (latin for death grip).

In progress:

Have a 90-day food and water supply ready.
Have 2 full tanks of gas on hand in storage (tricky because you have to move it around a bit so it doesn't get stale).
Have basic vehicle repair tools, a spare car battery in a faraday cage, a jack and jack stand, toolkit, spare tire or two etc.
Learning to hunt, learning to code.
Fasting + Herbs & Mushrooms + Lifting = superiority
go out in nature at least once a week for several hours away from the cities.
Avoid going out at night, so you can maximize the best sleep window and keep yourself strong
But the most important one is finding others you can work on solidarity with, to help one another escape the rat race. This one is the hardest for me because most people are content to stay within the confines of the race.
 

gework

Ostrich
Gold Member
I am not in the rat race. Some specific advice here.

Thoroughly getting out has required sacrifices, most notably living with the parents and only paying for food. I went my first year earning spending no more than about $1,000 and then not much more than that. The first time I spent 6 months abroad cost little more than $3,000.

Just cut everything out; and if you are on the right side of a recession invest in all.

The one big thing I wish I paid more attention to is social circle. Now I have the finances of a 10, but the social circle of a 4. And the social circle of a 4 means you're largely left to looks, i.e. trading down.

I also learned a lot I wish I knew earlier to have myself set up completely differently now. I've got that coming along in a draft...

Vices are best to go completely. If you keep them as an option, they are an addiction risk.

- little/no TV/film
- no games
- no porn, IG, other nudey sites, gawking at women, sexual fantasies
- little/no reading (do it when you're old and can't do much else)
- no smoking, alcohol, drugs
- no hanging round with reprobates, drunks, drug users
- no social media, smartphone wasting
 

Zenta

Woodpecker
Gold Member
Thanks for the link Gework, can I ask what you do in your free time? Mainly because I've been freeing up some of the vices you list so I can focus more on things like reading.
 

hervens

Sparrow
This is a recurring theme I'm seeing more and more of, especially with us millenials.
Not to be rude, but I honestly think it's in part due to our generation no longer able to accept any type of hierachy or the rigidness of the most fundamental aspect of life: WORK.

Instead of trying to quit the rat race, why not try to run it instead ?
 
Since the beginning of the year I had thinking about if the engineering career I've been on for the last 5 years was what would make me happy. The owner of the company has told me to set everything up for a college education to then be reimbursed but something has been stopping me. Around Thanksgiving I made the choice to break it off with my 4 year LTR. Really, I wasted the last 2 years not believing in who I was before any of the relationship and started to focus on surviving. To be fair it taught me about who I was.

The hardest part is rewiring your brain away from cooming and consooming. The indulgence in those two things took away the motivation to change and be uncomfortable. At least for me, I started using exercise and engaging hobbies to heal from years of coping. One thing that satisfies me now is helping people in unique ways.

My goal for the next 10 years is be become a DJ and Producer while I'm still 25 and marketable. If none if it works out in any meaningful away there's always the life that was there, or maybe something better. If I can feel heard, bring the party and get paid for it, its almost as good as being a dad.
 

NoMoreTO

Ostrich
hervens said:
This is a recurring theme I'm seeing more and more of, especially with us millenials.
Not to be rude, but I honestly think it's in part due to our generation no longer able to accept any type of hierachy or the rigidness of the most fundamental aspect of life: WORK.

Instead of trying to quit the rat race, why not try to run it instead ?
Even if you win the Rat Race, you are still a rat.

It's a fair point that hard work can pay off. Also, jobs that are not intrinsically enjoyable to most can pay well. The Rat Race is in part the work itself, and in other part identifying yourself with the Jones', or the condo guy next door.

I just bought a small farm. I have been successful in the rat race for 10 years now. So if the rat race serves your purpose, it can be fine.

Previously, I was thinking more of moving to Colombia. There are beautiful women who want family there, I had adequate savings to float along and re establish myself in a way that I wanted. The time I spent there, unplugged me from the rat race and solidified my desire to do something different with my life. I haven't ruled out spending more time down there.

Keeping your head down, never looking up and self analyzing, feeling you have to do what your peers do, to me is a key quality of the rat race
 

Eban

Sparrow
Gework, why do you have "little/no reading" on your vices list? Wouldn't you want to read more and thus learn more? Or are you just talking about fiction or something?
 

kel

Pelican
Unit 600RR said:
My goal for the next 10 years is be become a DJ and Producer while I'm still 25 and marketable. If none if it works out in any meaningful away there's always the life that was there, or maybe something better. If I can feel heard, bring the party and get paid for it, its almost as good as being a dad.

That sounds risky, but I admire you going for it. Keep us apprised as to the events you throw, I travel a lot (too much) and you never know when I'll be where.
 
gework said:
-- little/no reading (do it when you're old and can't do much else)
Disagree with that completely - a man should read, period - and be very well read.

Nothing wrong with fiction either unless you are reading Harry Potter.

America has produced some phenomenal writers in my book (ahem) far better than my own country (UK) which isn't exactly rubbish either - to miss out on their works is criminal.

Instead of trying to quit the rat race, why not try to run it instead ?

Even if you win the Rat Race, you are still a rat.
I think he means to actual let others run the race for you and you profit from all the runners - as in you charge the entry fees, make the rules and control it all.
 
been involved with crypto since 2014 and have done and am still doing well for myself. I'm under 30 and finishing my degree (which is already paid up for a bachlors when I was a kid so no debt from college). This thankfully keeps me out of the rat race atm.
 

hervens

Sparrow
NoMoreTO said:
hervens said:
This is a recurring theme I'm seeing more and more of, especially with us millenials.
Not to be rude, but I honestly think it's in part due to our generation no longer able to accept any type of hierachy or the rigidness of the most fundamental aspect of life: WORK.

Instead of trying to quit the rat race, why not try to run it instead ?
Even if you win the Rat Race, you are still a rat.

It's a fair point that hard work can pay off. Also, jobs that are not intrinsically enjoyable to most can pay well. The Rat Race is in part the work itself, and in other part identifying yourself with the Jones', or the condo guy next door.

I just bought a small farm. I have been successful in the rat race for 10 years now. So if the rat race serves your purpose, it can be fine.

Previously, I was thinking more of moving to Colombia. There are beautiful women who want family there, I had adequate savings to float along and re establish myself in a way that I wanted. The time I spent there, unplugged me from the rat race and solidified my desire to do something different with my life. I haven't ruled out spending more time down there.

Keeping your head down, never looking up and self analyzing, feeling you have to do what your peers do, to me is a key quality of the rat race
Congrats on the farm, I'm all for alternative lifestyles. However, do realize you'll still be comparing the size of your truck, with the size of the truck the nearest farm owner drives.
The point I'm trying to make is, life will be challenging no matter what path you choose.
Here in the west, a good stem degree or trade should easily get you at least 70k - 100k a few years out of school which in turn hopefully provides for a decent quality of life.

After completing my engineering degree and starting my first job as a software dev at a major bank, I was extremely miserable and unable to adapt to the 9-5 lifestyle. I would get frustrated whenever I received negative feedback during evaluations and was desperately looking for a way out.

I looked into buying a small retail or franchise business from money I managed to make through an online business ( the online gig later lost momentum and failed )

After speaking to multiple small business owners, and working with a business broker, it became evident that running your own local shop is actually way more stressful and requires more hours than my corporate job, especially when you bring employees into the picture. I even looked into taking up a massive loan and buying a farm business believe it or not.

I decided to keep my job and best decision I ever did. I learned to adapt to the 9-5 schedule, developed solid work ethic and career plan, and with that came promotions and job satisfaction. Furthermore, I can use my nights and weekends to try to launch another online biz, and use my stable income to get a mortgage and invest in real estate. Currently have 1 income property, and hoping to refinance and get another one by year end as long as the coronavirus scare doesn't bring us down to a recession.

The reason why most people want to quit the rat race, is because they want to do their own things and be the ones running the show.
If you learn to navigate your way around work politics and you excel at what you do, you could be doing your own thing just the same, and maybe even be steering an entire department or team to the direction you want it to go.
 
^^I agree about the reading, it is essential. Books are like music: who shouldn't like them. Pound-for-pound reading does much more for you than TV, Internet, etc.
 

STG

Robin
Move to a rural area and start over.

Completely live life on your own terms, regardless of what clown world is doing.

Get a hobby farm. Own some acreage, learn to garden, plant fruit trees, raise chickens. Learn how to preserve food without electricity. Read books from before 1950 about country living. Get an old Ford tractor. Build your own shooting range on your land. Install a sand point well with a pitcher pump. Learn about firearms and how to load your own ammo. Get into Beekeeping.

Never stop reading and learning. Read old history books, not modern revisionist history. The nature of man will never change and history repeats. Used old books are cheap, around $4 shipped. I start reading about a subject and that leads me into something else. I'm learning more now then I did in the Marxist college system.

Old movies are often a higher quality then new movies. Look up some of the most popular movies of the 40's and 50's.

Go into the woods and learn to use a map and compass. Learn how to take a bearing and navigate.

Get rid of the smartphone. I went back to a landline.

Cities are toxic and unnatural. Leave them.
 
kel said:
Unit 600RR said:
My goal for the next 10 years is be become a DJ and Producer while I'm still 25 and marketable. If none if it works out in any meaningful away there's always the life that was there, or maybe something better. If I can feel heard, bring the party and get paid for it, its almost as good as being a dad.

That sounds risky, but I admire you going for it. Keep us apprised as to the events you throw, I travel a lot (too much) and you never know when I'll be where.
Rony Seikaly part deux!
 
I live in a somewhat rural area. There is just not much to do. For one, the country is depopulating in rural areas. The population is aging too. While there may be people my age in mid-size towns and cities, not so in rural areas. I strongly suspect that men outnumber women as well, and, most women are overweight. One positive I guess, is that slut-shaming is prevalent and people know well who the slut is, the alcoholic, the girl sleeping with her boss, the pill popper, etc. There is so value to knowing all those things.

But, I still at the end of the day crave the anonymity of the city.

As far as culture is concerned, there are all these county music groupies, crappy classic, 80's era, rock, and limited options.

At the end of the day, you have to take risks when you're a young guy, and follow the action.

With that in mind I see myself having a rural estate one day, but unless someone is going MGTOW, I don't understand the appeal.
 
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